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illusionofsize said:
Wow...you've been at this a while. Who was his guy with him then?
Magda, Vunak or Richardson?????
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Wow...you've been at this a while. Who was his guy with him then?
Magda, Vunak or Richardson?????
illusionofsize
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Hey you know Cass too?!!!!
That man can bump you with a hip pop and actually knock you down. I wish I could master the body motion he has( his stick works pretty good too,lol)
Actually Hartsell was still doing grappling then and him and Paul were just starting the politics.The breakoffs after that got so crazy and then all the JKD boys became
" Specialists". NO offense to any of them, it was just a natural progression.
Vunak took practical combat to a new level, thats for sure. I've seen the PFC tapes and wow....
Uh, to answer your origional question the guy at this seminar was Rob LAndry, a JKD guy here in Canada. I've never actually met B. Richardson or R. Bustillo.
Danny started using Paula for all his seminars shortly after that so I got to see her a lot.
I trained with Cass in Vancouver along with Louie Lindo and the late Herman Suwanda.Both great teachers.
That man can bump you with a hip pop and actually knock you down. I wish I could master the body motion he has( his stick works pretty good too,lol)
Actually Hartsell was still doing grappling then and him and Paul were just starting the politics.The breakoffs after that got so crazy and then all the JKD boys became
" Specialists". NO offense to any of them, it was just a natural progression.
Vunak took practical combat to a new level, thats for sure. I've seen the PFC tapes and wow....
Uh, to answer your origional question the guy at this seminar was Rob LAndry, a JKD guy here in Canada. I've never actually met B. Richardson or R. Bustillo.
Danny started using Paula for all his seminars shortly after that so I got to see her a lot.
I trained with Cass in Vancouver along with Louie Lindo and the late Herman Suwanda.Both great teachers.
DANABOLIC55
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illusionofsize said:
No I don't know him- just heared my instructor speaking of him and the guys Inosanto takes with him. I have met Joel Clark - the latest padawan. He's like a dragon on valium-very laid back but ready to explode.
illusionofsize
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Dragon on valium. I like that.lol
I have not met J. Clark.
Danny has taken so many guys up through the ranks. I have trained with some of his guys as well as some other FMA instuctors. The problem is that the closest guy is in T-dot and I'm in East Canada. It takes $$$$ to train with the top boys all the time.
My instructor(ors actually, two brothers) are top-shelf. But it is always fun to learn form ledgends like Inosanto or Cicoy Canete.
Are you familiar with Bobby Tubodas Balintawak???
No Lie, he can strip a stick during a session and you do not know its gone. I'm not kidding.
I asked him to show me three times and still can't figure it out.
I have not met J. Clark.
Danny has taken so many guys up through the ranks. I have trained with some of his guys as well as some other FMA instuctors. The problem is that the closest guy is in T-dot and I'm in East Canada. It takes $$$$ to train with the top boys all the time.
My instructor(ors actually, two brothers) are top-shelf. But it is always fun to learn form ledgends like Inosanto or Cicoy Canete.
Are you familiar with Bobby Tubodas Balintawak???
No Lie, he can strip a stick during a session and you do not know its gone. I'm not kidding.
I asked him to show me three times and still can't figure it out.
illusionofsize
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Because you must learn to think outside the box.
Most traditional martial arts start with learning the basic kicks, punchs and katas. Then some light sparring. then more advanced kicks. Often weapons are not taught until Black Belt level.
In FMA you start, the very first day, with a stick in your hand.
Now don't get me wrong, I firmly believe that everyone should have a strong base in a traditional style. It teaches basics, respect, humility, and honor for all arts.
But don't allow tradition to dictate the moves you will use in a given situation. Learn to think. How many times have we heard, upon joining a new club," Thats not how we do it here". OK out of respect for your ssytem and club I will do it your way. That does not mean it is the only way.
Take a parry to a jab for example:
Karate- will teach you to block and move or strike or grab.
Kung fu will teach you to trap or roll it aside.
Boxing-you just brush it with a glove(wiping the nose)
FMA- destroy it.
But you also learn to use all the above first before the destruction( gunta).
Picutre the punch coming in, left jab at you. YOu block with you right forearm and then do something. FMA would drive a punch directly into the bicep juncture between the two muscles. If you're really good(or he's really bad) you don't even block, just hit the incoming bicep. The arm is useless for 2 to 10 minutes.
Picture trapping such as wing Chun but then adding limb destructions. Pretty cool huh.
Well, throw all that out the window now and picture stopping that punch.....with a blade.
Thats where fma close combat gets nasty. The addition of a blade.
But again you must think outside the box.
Kalis illusrimo has 12 basic angles.
12 counters
12 reversals of the counters
heaven six- down to earth.(a six beat pattern done on three differetn levels)
Four ranges:
LArgo Mano(long)
Sumbrada(middle)
Higot hubud lubud(trapping)
Dumog(grappling)
Add silat for a fifth range.(or BJJ)
360 degrees of zoning based on a "triangle zone principle"(thats the hard part)
I can show you the system literally in an hour.
I can teach it to you in a week.(but it takes along time to master)becasue even though you know all the movement and the angles of attacks, it takes avery long time to put the flow together with the thought process to react to different angles and strikes.
The warriors of old had to learn it before they went to battle so it was lean, mean and fast.
I'm sorry didn;t mean to preach. It's so hard to verbalize. If you were standing in front of me you'd know what I was describing faster thasn I can type it. lol
Most traditional martial arts start with learning the basic kicks, punchs and katas. Then some light sparring. then more advanced kicks. Often weapons are not taught until Black Belt level.
In FMA you start, the very first day, with a stick in your hand.
Now don't get me wrong, I firmly believe that everyone should have a strong base in a traditional style. It teaches basics, respect, humility, and honor for all arts.
But don't allow tradition to dictate the moves you will use in a given situation. Learn to think. How many times have we heard, upon joining a new club," Thats not how we do it here". OK out of respect for your ssytem and club I will do it your way. That does not mean it is the only way.
Take a parry to a jab for example:
Karate- will teach you to block and move or strike or grab.
Kung fu will teach you to trap or roll it aside.
Boxing-you just brush it with a glove(wiping the nose)
FMA- destroy it.
But you also learn to use all the above first before the destruction( gunta).
Picutre the punch coming in, left jab at you. YOu block with you right forearm and then do something. FMA would drive a punch directly into the bicep juncture between the two muscles. If you're really good(or he's really bad) you don't even block, just hit the incoming bicep. The arm is useless for 2 to 10 minutes.
Picture trapping such as wing Chun but then adding limb destructions. Pretty cool huh.
Well, throw all that out the window now and picture stopping that punch.....with a blade.
Thats where fma close combat gets nasty. The addition of a blade.
But again you must think outside the box.
Kalis illusrimo has 12 basic angles.
12 counters
12 reversals of the counters
heaven six- down to earth.(a six beat pattern done on three differetn levels)
Four ranges:
LArgo Mano(long)
Sumbrada(middle)
Higot hubud lubud(trapping)
Dumog(grappling)
Add silat for a fifth range.(or BJJ)
360 degrees of zoning based on a "triangle zone principle"(thats the hard part)
I can show you the system literally in an hour.
I can teach it to you in a week.(but it takes along time to master)becasue even though you know all the movement and the angles of attacks, it takes avery long time to put the flow together with the thought process to react to different angles and strikes.
The warriors of old had to learn it before they went to battle so it was lean, mean and fast.
I'm sorry didn;t mean to preach. It's so hard to verbalize. If you were standing in front of me you'd know what I was describing faster thasn I can type it. lol
DANABOLIC55
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Becoming said:
Since this is a bread and butter technique, I'm starting to believe that it's not gonna be found free & on the web. I simply can't find one.
It really is a fight stopper. This, Thai, & BJJ is all one needs.
The destruction can also be used if an attacker takes a full mount and rains blows down- just give him those elbows to hit , then buck him off to ge the hips out.
illusionofsize said:
I guess it is outside the box in terms of more traditional approaches... but it is perfect sense and seems simple and what could be more effective?... too bad you don't live out here in AZ... anywhere I can go to learn more about this (read etc and find resources out here to check it out?)
young guns
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illusionofsize said:
Just wondering what PFC stands for. It wouldn't happen to be Practical Fighting Concepts would it?
I was googling for Bruce Tegner (now there's a long story...) and about 12 pages in, once I got past all the Amazon and eBay book sales, there were a couple of pages that had some good stuff about short stick work. Even a graphic of some Arnis triangles. I'll have to see if I can find it again and post up a link.
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