anyone belive in the mayan mystery of 2012?

[redsamurai]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

in terms of the changeover of the mind that they talk about, I can already see it happening. People, especially the educated ones who get some sense of the world and OF THEMSELVES, seem to moving away from the indoctrinating theologies. It's a shame to see some of those people cross over into abject apathy, atheism........but even that seems to be better than what's going on now. The established powers that be in this world will not tolerate that however. As we become free-er in our minds, we become less controllable.....and this will not do for the entities that direct the goings on of this world. They say we're already in ww3.......but that there wont' be a single bullet fired (which I don't beleive). Those people think that ww3 has been going on now for awhile, and it's a war for the soul of man........who knows. I do know that I can see the resistance to this change, change we "desperately" need. There are people who do not want things to change because it would upset their power base.

 

[martineznation]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

something is going to happen on that date...thats for sure look at the science behind it, on that date the sun is supposed to act up...solar flares or sum crap like that...=)...but who really knows gonna be a trip how people are going to behave leading up to it..

 

[chris302001]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

something is going to happen on that date...thats for sure look at the science behind it, on that date the sun is supposed to act up...solar flares or sum crap like that...=)...but who really knows gonna be a trip how people are going to behave leading up to it..

please point said science out to me.

 

[-Ariel-]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

please point said science out to me.

Just cause he's came off as stupid... I know it's not really important say, tween our friendship... it's not a matter of belief...

Just way too much multidimensional methods that are in correlation with the mayan suggestion that time is not static, and we are in for a huge transition...

U&I will be fine, trust me. However, things will change, and it will happen on a a monumental level.... it will be interpreted at first in a standardized way, but the changes will happen on a much 'deeper' level that work their way into culture in a quick and obfuscated manner... a la tipping point wise.

All the Earth topographical data that correlates is not my domain, I know very little about.

 

[chris302001]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

Just cause he's came off as stupid... I know it's not really important say, tween our friendship... it's not a matter of belief...

Just way too much multidimensional methods that are in correlation with the mayan suggestion that time is not static, and we are in for a huge transition...

U&I will be fine, trust me. However, things will change, and it will happen on a a monumental level.... it will be interpreted at first in a standardized way, but the changes will happen on a much 'deeper' level that work their way into culture in a quick and obfuscated manner... a la tipping point wise.

All the Earth topographical data that correlates is not my domain, I know very little about.

lol I didnt say that there couldn't be something that's going to happen, I just dont like it when people throw the word science around like its table salt.

 

[samoth]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

lol I didnt say that there couldn't be something that's going to happen, I just dont like it when people throw the word science around like its table salt.

Eh, it's a board full of meatheads. Sometimes stereotypes aren't an entirely untrue generalization.

Between threads like this and, e.g., ghost threads, I often find myself at a loss for words.

 

[musclemom]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

Eh, it's a board full of meatheads. Sometimes stereotypes aren't an entirely untrue generalization.

Between threads like this and, e.g., ghost threads, I often find myself at a loss for words.

Samoth, I respect you, really I do, however, I have no respect for narrow minded refusal to accept even the potential for something, in this case, a spirituality or psychic phenomenon, to exist.

I want you to give something careful consideration. I don't want to discuss it further than this, I just merely want to give you some food for thought.

Many, if not most animals and insects have senses that make our five senses seem virtually useless. A shark can feel it's prey along its skin, snakes taste scent and feel the tiniest of vibrations along the ground, a dog can smell the fact someone's foot has touched a place on the ground, can hear a dog whistle pratically across a football field, a cat's sense of hearing and smell are nearly as good as a dogs and additionally it can see in conditions of virtual darkness and leap five times it's own height straight up into the air, insects smell pheremones from great distances, have multifaceted eyes that see in nearly 360 degrees and are capable of visualizing colors beyond our ability to see, it's been conjectured that cetaceans can hear songs of other pods across an entire ocean.

Now, I want you to consider the autistic savant, a person who can hear a highly complicated piece of piano music and repeat that, perfectly, with no musical training, a person who is capable of incredible feats of memory or mathematical skills or creating pieces of art of stunning perfection.

Why am I bringing these issues up? Because, I'm telling you, science doesn't UNDERSTAND everything. If you can't yank it out, dissect it, examine it and test it to exhaustion then, in the world of science, it doesn't exist, that's how empirical science exists. But science doesn't even come close to understanding quantum particles and it CANNOT explain how some autistic person can play all the works of Beethoven without having had piano lesson one. They can conjecture, they've got ideas, but they do not truly understand how it works.

And there are other things I'm not even bringing up that leave human scientists scratching their heads. Cancers that just, for no apparent reason, spontaneously remit, blind people who have the ability to sense diffent colors through touch or even read printed type. This stuff and a lot weirder, exists.

So allow yourself, just for even a minute to consider the possibility that, in the words of Shakespeare, "There are more things in heaven and earth, horatio, than are dreamt of in your books."

Science cannot duplicate nature, if it could, people could just walk around with hand held sniffers that would smell cocaine or bombs. No machine exists that can out sniff a dog as quickly or as efficiently, short and sweet.

No computer can outperform even an "average" human brain.

Just HOW many dimensions does Hawkins think there may be? 11? Can you tell me what 11 dimensions look like or how they operate?

Well, what if some brains have some odd parts of them turned on, like the savants who can play a piece of music perfectly after one listening, but this part of their brain senses energy (like that shark skin sensing it's prey) and enables them to perceive dimensions that the average person doesn't. Does that mean that what they are perceiving is not real? Of course, in the empiric world since they haven't proven it, then it doesn't. In my world, if that person is otherwise rational and intelligent, until I have something presented to me that forces me to believe they are lying to me, I give them the benefit of the doubt. If a person is a liar, or delusional, sooner or later you encounter evidence of that behavior (which is why a judge will only accept the testimony of a person who has been proven to be dishonest with extreme skepticism).

I'm not saying wholeheartedly accept things, I'm just saying would it kill you to consider the possibility? Just because the part of your brain doesn't work that could perceive shit beyond your puny five senses, why must you insist that's the world everyone lives in?

 

[Mr. dB]

If this upcoming paradigm shift means that Nickelback, and all the other bands that sound just like them, will go away, then I'm all for it.

 

[broonzy]

Re: anyone belive in the myan mystery of 2012?

Samoth, I respect you, really I do, however, I have no respect for narrow minded refusal to accept even the potential for something, in this case, a spirituality or psychic phenomenon, to exist.

I want you to give something careful consideration. I don't want to discuss it further than this, I just merely want to give you some food for thought.

Many, if not most animals and insects have senses that make our five senses seem virtually useless. A shark can feel it's prey along its skin, snakes taste scent and feel the tiniest of vibrations along the ground, a dog can smell the fact someone's foot has touched a place on the ground, can hear a dog whistle pratically across a football field, a cat's sense of hearing and smell are nearly as good as a dogs and additionally it can see in conditions of virtual darkness and leap five times it's own height straight up into the air, insects smell pheremones from great distances, have multifaceted eyes that see in nearly 360 degrees and are capable of visualizing colors beyond our ability to see, it's been conjectured that cetaceans can hear songs of other pods across an entire ocean.

Now, I want you to consider the autistic savant, a person who can hear a highly complicated piece of piano music and repeat that, perfectly, with no musical training, a person who is capable of incredible feats of memory or mathematical skills or creating pieces of art of stunning perfection.

Why am I bringing these issues up? Because, I'm telling you, science doesn't UNDERSTAND everything. If you can't yank it out, dissect it, examine it and test it to exhaustion then, in the world of science, it doesn't exist, that's how empirical science exists. But science doesn't even come close to understanding quantum particles and it CANNOT explain how some autistic person can play all the works of Beethoven without having had piano lesson one. They can conjecture, they've got ideas, but they do not truly understand how it works.

And there are other things I'm not even bringing up that leave human scientists scratching their heads. Cancers that just, for no apparent reason, spontaneously remit, blind people who have the ability to sense diffent colors through touch or even read printed type. This stuff and a lot weirder, exists.

So allow yourself, just for even a minute to consider the possibility that, in the words of Shakespeare, "There are more things in heaven and earth, horatio, than are dreamt of in your books."

Science cannot duplicate nature, if it could, people could just walk around with hand held sniffers that would smell cocaine or bombs. No machine exists that can out sniff a dog as quickly or as efficiently, short and sweet.

No computer can outperform even an "average" human brain.

Just HOW many dimensions does Hawkins think there may be? 11? Can you tell me what 11 dimensions look like or how they operate?

Well, what if some brains have some odd parts of them turned on, like the savants who can play a piece of music perfectly after one listening, but this part of their brain senses energy (like that shark skin sensing it's prey) and enables them to perceive dimensions that the average person doesn't. Does that mean that what they are perceiving is not real? Of course, in the empiric world since they haven't proven it, then it doesn't. In my world, if that person is otherwise rational and intelligent, until I have something presented to me that forces me to believe they are lying to me, I give them the benefit of the doubt. If a person is a liar, or delusional, sooner or later you encounter evidence of that behavior (which is why a judge will only accept the testimony of a person who has been proven to be dishonest with extreme skepticism).

I'm not saying wholeheartedly accept things, I'm just saying would it kill you to consider the possibility? Just because the part of your brain doesn't work that could perceive shit beyond your puny five senses, why must you insist that's the world everyone lives in?

Shit that was an awesome post! K to you.

 

[binö]

death of a culture=nullification of culture's a prophecies
true story