Anaphylactic shock, Anaphylaxis, what to have around when taking a shot.

[Pat_McCrotch]

primatene has .22mg of epi in it. Not enough to really open your airways if your allergic reaction turns to anaphylaxis. You would be better off taking a benadryl or pepcid or tagament maybe even zantac which are all antihistamines. the latter three are h2 blockers which is why it works so well on heart burn.

 

[lmm23]

Wait hold up now. you took adenisone? Was it pharmaceutical or was it some OTC product with that name on it?

I bought the adenosine from a vets store on the internet!

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I bought the adenosine from a vets store on the internet!

The only reason i ask is because adenosine in the ER is used to stop ones heart for a few seconds to allow it to restart on its own and go into a normal sinus rhythm. it is only used in people with SVT.

Or is the one you bought used or is believed to work on the ATP cycle?

 

[gjohnson5]

Basically if one is rushed to the hospital with an allergic reaction that is life threatening , they are given IV magnesium sulfate which should stop the anaplaxsis. You can get IV grade magnesium sulfate and take a few drops sublingually. This is the way the enviornmental doctors treat severe allergic reactions.

Make the gear from powder and use an unrefined oil which can easily be found at the whole foods store. The unrefined oil contains no preservatives so that should eliminate that from the picture...

Try again

Just took sixth cycle using clean British Dragon and wanted to bring this up for newbies or anyone who might have experienced the same as I.

With my very first shot, I felt nothing, but over a few years(only about one, maybe two cycle a year) I got what seemed to be an abscess. Because I keep everything very, very sterile, I figured it was an oil abscess, just needing more time to absorb. Eventually ended up in doctors office getting about 300 bucks worth of antibiotics and corticosteroids shot into the spot.

So seven months pass, I do my normal cycle with two weeks Anadrol 50, bringing in Sustanon 250 in end of week one at a dose of 750 per week. This Sustanon 250 is the hospital grade ampules, pain to open, but smooth. Then, after eight weeks, jumped over to Primobolan(from a very rep source). New lot of the old good stuff before company went down, next morning I felt like crap. Blood pressure was at 86/40. Turns out, I was slowly getting more sensitive to a preservative and we slowly going into shock. Slowly going into shock is called Anaphylaxis and can happen over a few days. Meaning you will die in four days instead of two minutes like anaphylactic shock.

FIRST HINT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SWITCH BRANDS:
--Even if you feel great, sometimes your chest feels heavy, like you put on too much weight too fast. This happened with every injection, but it was so mild I thought it was just part of the side-effects. Don't kid yourself, anyone who takes this stuff for the first time doesn't know what to expect no matter how much research.
--After shot, sore for more than three days, or the shot area feels more like a knot compared to previous injections you've done. It is a small difference, so you have to pay attention.
--A small red ring around injection site that vanishes after a few minutes.

SECOND SIGN (usually as the body becomes more sensitive to the allergen):
--Feel like crap the next day.
--Way past sore at injection site.
--Lower than it should be blood pressure. (if you're taking test, you're bp should be above the 120/80 norm, so even being normal is a warning sign)
--Even joints are sore
--No energy
--Temperature.

WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THIS IS NOT "TEST FEVER", GO TO WALGREENS, SAFEWAY, ANYWHERE YOU CAN GET A PRIMATINE MIST INHALER. THIS HAS EPINEPHRINE IN IT, LIKE AN EPI-PIN, YOU SHOULD FEEL RELIEF WITHIN ABOUT A MINUTE.
-USE INHALER ONCE, WAIT AND IF NEEDED ONLY A SECOND TIME FIVE MINUTES LATER.
-IF THIS HELPS, REMEMBER THAT THE OIL WILL BE IN YOUR BODY FOR AT LEAST A FEW DAYS, AS WILL THE PRESERVATIVES THAT CAUSE THE REACTION, SO KEEP THE INHALER AROUND AND TAKE A PUFF NO MORE THAN ONCE IN MORNING AND ONCE AT NIGHT. DON'T TOUCH THE SAME STUFF AGAIN, PERIOD!


THIS SAVED MY LIFE WHICH IS WHY I'M POSTING IT AND ALTHOUGH REACTING TO PRESERVATIVES IN ANY OIL-BASED STEROID IS VERY, VERY RARE, ANYONE SHOOTING SHOULD HAVE AN INHALER NEARBY OR BETTER YET AN EPI-PIN IF THE AIRWAYS CLOSE TOO FAST(CAN TAKE LESS THAN A MINUTE).

IF THE REACTION IS BAD ENOUGH AFTER A SHOT, TAKE A HIT OF THE INHALER, KEEPING THE WINDPIPES OPEN. YOU WILL KNOW IF IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT EVEN THE INHALER ISN'T HELPING. IT IS NOT A CURE BUT IT WILL, HOWEVER, KEEP YOU ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO GET TO A HOSPITAL, GET AN EPINEPHRINE PIN INJECTION AND GET WATCHED BY A DOCTOR. BE HONEST, AS THEY MAY GIVE YOU A FEW MORE PINS UNTIL THE STUFF WORKS ITS WAY OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM.

Just remember that this is just information that not everyone knows and it can save your life. My temp was at 103.5 with blood pressure that would make a corpse move more than I could. If this ever does happen, TOTALLY avoid the same company, no matter what the med(Sust, Primobolan - methenolone - , Whinny, Cypionate) because it isn't the easter you're reacting too, nor the horomones, but the preservative they use in every oil.

Never let your cycle push you towards another shot. You can always wait an extra week or two and switch to a new company or pills to finish your cycle.

This is serious stuff, so I hope this helps a few people from keeling over and dying.

For anyone new to thinking about steroids, this is 99% unlikely, so don't be scared away, just be aware, prepared and always respect the drugs you're taking.

Long post, so sorry, but I had to post it as I'm glad to be here writing it.

Best wishes to everyone here and safe journeys towards all our goals and dreams,

Kirk

 

[lmm23]

The only reason i ask is because adenosine in the ER is used to stop ones heart for a few seconds to allow it to restart on its own and go into a normal sinus rhythm. it is only used in people with SVT.

Or is the one you bought used or is believed to work on the ATP cycle?

Originally what I had started out wanting was adenosine monophosphate for ATP synthesis, and then being chemically unaware I stumbled on adenosine and thought that was it. When I got it, it became clear it was something very different. So I researched it and, in the context of the Vet store in which I bought it, what came back was that it was a 'cardiac dilator' used when greyhounds are due to perform extreme exercise. I thought that would be interesting. But, I'm now painfully aware of its use in medicine. The doctor said, notwithstanding my reaction, that he tells his patients who need it in emergencies that they will feel as though they are going to die. He said I would have died if I'd caught a vein.

Fuck adenosine. I was such an idiot years ago. I'm trying to get back into things now, and thought I should learn what I'm doing now! No more halotestin, anavar, d'bol cycles (with no PCT) either!! It's scary what you can do to yourself without the prerequisite knowledge to accompany relatively easy to acquire compounds!

One thing about epinephrine, don't take too much. I came across someone with a nut allergy, who was supposed to use two epi-pens, but still felt bad and took a third. He would have survived but the overdose of adrenaline killed him!

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Originally what I had started out wanting was adenosine monophosphate for ATP synthesis, and then being chemically unaware I stumbled on adenosine and thought that was it. When I got it, it became clear it was something very different. So I researched it and, in the context of the Vet store in which I bought it, what came back was that it was a 'cardiac dilator' used when greyhounds are due to perform extreme exercise. I thought that would be interesting. But, I'm now painfully aware of its use in medicine. The doctor said, notwithstanding my reaction, that he tells his patients who need it in emergencies that they will feel as though they are going to die. He said I would have died if I'd caught a vein.

Fuck adenosine. I was such an idiot years ago. I'm trying to get back into things now, and thought I should learn what I'm doing now! No more halotestin, anavar, d'bol cycles (with no PCT - post cycle therapy - ) either!! It's scary what you can do to yourself without the prerequisite knowledge to accompany relatively easy to acquire compounds!

One thing about epinephrine, don't take too much. I came across someone with a nut allergy, who was supposed to use two epi-pens, but still felt bad and took a third. He would have survived but the overdose of adrenaline killed him!

That sucks. sorry to hear about your friend.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Basically if one is rushed to the hospital with an allergic reaction that is life threatening , they are given IV magnesium sulfate which should stop the anaplaxsis. You can get IV grade magnesium sulfate and take a few drops sublingually. This is the way the enviornmental doctors treat severe allergic reactions.

Make the gear from powder and use an unrefined oil which can easily be found at the whole foods store. The unrefined oil contains no preservatives so that should eliminate that from the picture...

Try again

Very intresting. How does mag sulfate help with allergic reactions? I will have to ask one of MDs about that. I have never heard if that. Give me some more info if ya got it bro.

 

[centy]

One thing about epinephrine, don't take too much. I came across someone with a nut allergy, who was supposed to use two epi-pens, but still felt bad and took a third. He would have survived but the overdose of adrenaline killed him!

Wow, that's nuts. They tell you to call 911 before you jab yourself with the epi-pen because chances are good you will pass out from the rush. It is definately a very powerful substance. I've done a lot of stupid recreational crap in my times but never had a rush like from pure adrenaline. It's like getting badly startled multiplied by 1000. I felt like Johnny Depp with the adrenochrome in Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas .

 

[gjohnson5]

Epinephrine is well tolerated but some can be hypersensitive to epinephrine as well

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/112/24_suppl/IV-139

Magnesium sulfate will relax he muscles that are constricting blocking airflow

Very intresting. How does mag sulfate help with allergic reactions? I will have to ask one of MDs about that. I have never heard if that. Give me some more info if ya got it bro.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

true it does relax but this maybe a secondary drug once the fron t line drugs are used, like epi, solumedrol, benadryl, racemic epi, pepcid/tagament/zantac.