Anaphylactic shock, Anaphylaxis, what to have around when taking a shot.

[Powerbuilder333]

Jesus...Should I be scared..this is making me really fear my first cycle.

No.
But it is one more thing to consider?
I've never heard of gear having preservitives in it per say. Alcohol yes, to kill bacteria, but that's really not a preservitive, and has been used my millions without incident.
My under educated opinion is be aware of the symtoms listed, and if you have respitory stress try the inhaler route, but if your throat is swelling shut 911 is the only way to go.

 

[F_ed_in_the_A]

No.
But it is one more thing to consider?
I've never heard of gear having preservitives in it per say. Alcohol yes, to kill bacteria, but that's really not a preservitive, and has been used my millions without incident.
My under educated opinion is be aware of the symtoms listed, and if you have respitory stress try the inhaler route, but if your throat is swelling shut 911 is the only way to go.

Great advice. As for this being a common thing, as I said in the post, things like Primobolan is attatched with a test-enanthate bond. What causes the reaction is what else can be in any underground lab produced good. Just go with the best, which British Dragon was known to be. They probably just had something in the air that was an allergen to me personally.

The main thing is that any underground lab, no matter how safe or clean the claim to be, if you saw how professional grade shots are prepared at a hospital, these labs aren't even close. Many do use some preservatives, even colors, but a reaction like mine is rare to the point that the only reason I even posted it was so that people would always be prepared. If your throat starts swelling, an inhaler will get you to a phone to call 911, so its a good thing to have, not to plan on having to use it.

Just be educated and again, respect anything powerful enough to effect your body. As for the Mod post about not explaining Anaphylactic Shock or Anaphylaxis, this post was to help people experiencing anything like what I went through and if others were interested, just type it in google to get as detailed info as you'd like. Also to the Mod post, this is the very same reaction as some have when allergic to bee stings or penuts.

To finish this off, please don't freak out if you're going on your first cycle. Just be aware and educated. Check out the great posts the Mods and other long-time users have to say. You'll find that this is nothing to be worried about and that with respect and patience, AAS can really enhance your wellbeing and life.

Take care everyone and thanks for reading the post.
Best wishes,
Kirk

 

[centy]

Anaphylactic shock is no joke. Indeed.

I got it once when I worked at a seafood restaurant. I'd eaten oysters all my life, but suddenly became allergic to them. Within minutes of eating some, I was redder than the goddamn lobsters. I left work and drove to a pharmacy, grabbed a box of Benadryl and was chewing them up by the handful while in line at the cash register. Shit was getting worse, airway was closing up, etc. Drove to the hospital and got there just in time as I collapsed in the ER. They gave me an adrenaline shot. (Wow. Talk about a rush) They told me I would have died in about 15 more minutes.

Now I keep an Epi-pen handy.

It's very important to listen to your body. Anytime you are introducing anything foreign into the body, the possibility for an allergic reaction exists. Better safe than sorry. (Good injection hygiene is important in this regard also.)

Great post / great advice kirkenmiller

 

[702daswoll1]

Interesting post, but a couple questions: Doesn't Primatine Mist contain ephedrine? I didn't think you could sell any form of pure ephinephrine over the counter. Also, you haven't really said what anaphylactic shock and anaphylaxis actually are. What is exactly causing the shock within the system (what is the unknown preservative doing?), and why would it potentially lead to death? (Is death the limiting case or the natural progression?) Further, do you not think it ill-advised to recommend anyone not feeling exactly "right" to stab themselves with an epi-pen? Should not people should only use those when given directions from a doctor? I know those things make you go from feeling bad to feeling worse, lol, but some people also carry an allergy or reaction to epinephrine itself, which could be an additional risk.

Am I correct in assuming that the body's reaction to the unknown preservative is not unlike those who experience a dire reaction to bee stings that can lead to death, as they experience the same effects and also carry epi-pens with them?

Primatene mist contains epinephrine not ephedrine.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Great advice. As for this being a common thing, as I said in the post, things like Primobolan is attatched with a test-enanthate bond. What causes the reaction is what else can be in any underground lab produced good. Just go with the best, which British Dragon was known to be. They probably just had something in the air that was an allergen to me personally.

The main thing is that any underground lab, no matter how safe or clean the claim to be, if you saw how professional grade shots are prepared at a hospital, these labs aren't even close. Many do use some preservatives, even colors, but a reaction like mine is rare to the point that the only reason I even posted it was so that people would always be prepared. If your throat starts swelling, an inhaler will get you to a phone to call 911, so its a good thing to have, not to plan on having to use it.

Just be educated and again, respect anything powerful enough to effect your body. As for the Mod post about not explaining Anaphylactic Shock or Anaphylaxis, this post was to help people experiencing anything like what I went through and if others were interested, just type it in google to get as detailed info as you'd like. Also to the Mod post, this is the very same reaction as some have when allergic to bee stings or penuts.

To finish this off, please don't freak out if you're going on your first cycle. Just be aware and educated. Check out the great posts the Mods and other long-time users have to say. You'll find that this is nothing to be worried about and that with respect and patience, anabolic androgenic steroids can really enhance your wellbeing and life.

Take care everyone and thanks for reading the post.
Best wishes,
Kirk

Where did you take your initial blood pressure? Walgreens, CVS?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Primatene mist contains epinephrine not ephedrine.

So over the counter products now contain epi? Hmmph. That can be a very dangerous product.

 

[sincere81oo0]

all i have to say is wow

 

[lmm23]

You don't even need to use a product once to become sensitised to it in order to have a reaction. At one stage, I didn't really think twice about taking anything. Once I took adenosine to increase aerobic capacity, and my blood pressure dropped catastrophically within 25 seconds, my throat started closing over. Called an ambulance; the doctor looked at me when I told him what I'd taken like I was fucking idiot (rightly so!). It did say on the packet that animals given the drug in the past have been known to go into anaphylactic shock. Stupid.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

You don't even need to use a product once to become sensitised to it in order to have a reaction. At one stage, I didn't really think twice about taking anything. Once I took adenosine to increase aerobic capacity, and my blood pressure dropped catastrophically within 25 seconds, my throat started closing over. Called an ambulance; the doctor looked at me when I told him what I'd taken like I was fucking idiot (rightly so!). It did say on the packet that animals given the drug in the past have been known to go into anaphylactic shock. Stupid.

Wait hold up now. you took adenisone? Was it pharmaceutical or was it some OTC product with that name on it?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Just took sixth cycle using clean British Dragon and wanted to bring this up for newbies or anyone who might have experienced the same as I.

With my very first shot, I felt nothing, but over a few years(only about one, maybe two cycle a year) I got what seemed to be an abscess. Because I keep everything very, very sterile, I figured it was an oil abscess, just needing more time to absorb. Eventually ended up in doctors office getting about 300 bucks worth of antibiotics and corticosteroids shot into the spot.

So seven months pass, I do my normal cycle with two weeks Anadrol 50, bringing in Sustanon 250 in end of week one at a dose of 750 per week. This Sustanon 250 is the hospital grade ampules, pain to open, but smooth. Then, after eight weeks, jumped over to Primobolan(from a very rep source). New lot of the old good stuff before company went down, next morning I felt like crap. Blood pressure was at 86/40. Turns out, I was slowly getting more sensitive to a preservative and we slowly going into shock. Slowly going into shock is called Anaphylaxis and can happen over a few days. [your definition of anaphylaxis is wrong. see bottom. Not flaming you just trying to educate because there is a lot of misinformation that goes on aroiund here. people take one little piece of info and run with it. That is very dangerous.
Meaning you will die in four days instead of two minutes like anaphylactic shock.

FIRST HINT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SWITCH BRANDS:
--Even if you feel great, sometimes your chest feels heavy, like you put on too much weight too fast. This happened with every injection, but it was so mild I thought it was just part of the side-effects. Don't kid yourself, anyone who takes this stuff for the first time doesn't know what to expect no matter how much research.
--After shot, sore for more than three days, or the shot area feels more like a knot compared to previous injections you've done.
it could be an abscess or just real thick gear. steroids hurts sometimes at the injection site. again not a sign of anaphylaxis

It is a small difference, so you have to pay attention.
--A small red ring around injection site that vanishes after a few minutes.
True this could be a localized reaction or maybe the skin is just irratated. it does not always mean and most of time does not mean its an allergic reaction. if it stays/grows and becomes itchy and an abscess has been ruled out then yes you may have a mild allergy to the any of the substances in the compound.undefinedundefined
SECOND SIGN (usually as the body becomes more sensitive to the allergen):
--Feel like crap the next day.
--Way past sore at injection site.
--Lower than it should be blood pressure. (if you're taking test, you're bp should be above the 120/80 norm, so even being normal is a warning sign)

Your incorrect here. Sure it will make some people BP go up but just because it drops down below 120/80 does not mean you are going into shock. if it drops down into the 80s systolic and stays then there is a reason to be concerned.
It very well could be and most likley is test flu.[
--Even joints are sore
--No energy
--Temperature.

WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THIS IS NOT "TEST FEVER", GO TO WALGREENS, SAFEWAY, ANYWHERE YOU CAN GET A PRIMATINE MIST INHALER. THIS HAS EPINEPHRINE IN IT, LIKE AN EPI-PIN, YOU SHOULD FEEL RELIEF WITHIN ABOUT A MINUTE.
-USE INHALER ONCE, WAIT AND IF NEEDED ONLY A SECOND TIME FIVE MINUTES LATER.

Are you in the medical field to be given advice like this? Where are you getting this info from on how much to take and give? How much Epi is in the mister? In order for epi to work for allergic reactions you nee a specific dose. i doubt the OTC inhaler has the apporporaite dose. if it did then it would not be OTC

-IF THIS HELPS, REMEMBER THAT THE OIL WILL BE IN YOUR BODY FOR AT LEAST A FEW DAYS, AS WILL THE PRESERVATIVES THAT CAUSE THE REACTION, SO KEEP THE INHALER AROUND AND TAKE A PUFF NO MORE THAN ONCE IN MORNING AND ONCE AT NIGHT. DON'T TOUCH THE SAME STUFF AGAIN, PERIOD!


THIS SAVED MY LIFE WHICH IS WHY I'M POSTING IT AND ALTHOUGH REACTING TO PRESERVATIVES IN ANY OIL-BASED STEROID IS VERY, VERY RARE, ANYONE SHOOTING SHOULD HAVE AN INHALER NEARBY OR BETTER YET AN EPI-PIN IF THE AIRWAYS CLOSE TOO FAST(CAN TAKE LESS THAN A MINUTE).

IF THE REACTION IS BAD ENOUGH AFTER A SHOT, TAKE A HIT OF THE INHALER, KEEPING THE WINDPIPES OPEN. YOU WILL KNOW IF IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT EVEN THE INHALER ISN'T HELPING. IT IS NOT A CURE BUT IT WILL, HOWEVER, KEEP YOU ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO GET TO A HOSPITAL, GET AN EPINEPHRINE PIN INJECTION AND GET WATCHED BY A DOCTOR. BE HONEST, AS THEY MAY GIVE YOU A FEW MORE PINS UNTIL THE STUFF WORKS ITS WAY OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM.

Just remember that this is just information that not everyone knows and it can save your life. My temp was at 103.5 with blood pressure that would make a corpse move more than I could. If this ever does happen, TOTALLY avoid the same company, no matter what the med(Sustanon, Primobolan - methenolone - , Whinny, Cypionate) because it isn't the easter you're reacting too, nor the horomones, but the preservative they use in every oil.

Your symptoms sound more like you became septic with the fever and the decrease in BP. But of course I wasnt there. Did you get a lot of IV fluids and IV antibiotics when you were in the hospital?


Never let your cycle push you towards another shot. You can always wait an extra week or two and switch to a new company or pills to finish your cycle.

This is serious stuff, so I hope this helps a few people from keeling over and dying.

For anyone new to thinking about steroids, this is 99% unlikely, so don't be scared away, just be aware, prepared and always respect the drugs you're taking.

Long post, so sorry, but I had to post it as I'm glad to be here writing it.

Best wishes to everyone here and safe journeys towards all our goals and dreams,

Kirk

Anaphylaxis is an acute systemic (multi-system) and severe Type I Hypersensitivity allergic reaction in humans and other mammals. Anaphylaxis occurs when a person or animal is exposed to a trigger substance


Anaphylactic shock, the most severe type of anaphylaxis, occurs when an allergic response triggers a quick release from mast cells of large quantities of immunological mediators (histamines, prostaglandins, leukotrienes) leading to systemic vasodilation (associated with a sudden drop in blood pressure) and edema of bronchial mucosa (resulting in bronchoconstriction and difficulty breathing). Anaphylactic shock can lead to death in a matter of minutes if left untreated.



The 2 definitions above were cut and pasted but what you are saying is wrong or maybe doesnt make sense to me about your definition of the two.


I was reading over this and I come across as an ASS HOLE. Not my intention at all and if i do i want to apologize. Thank you for sharing your experience adn we are all glad you are OK.

We just have to be carefule with the information we put out on here. People will have a reaction of some sort or an infection and come here for help and not seek medical treatment. The mister can and will give people on here not all but a lot of the NUBs a false sense of security. So becareful about the medical advice you give out unless you are a medical professional even then it needs to be kept to a bare minimum.