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Alright fellas....starting CKD tomorrow.
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Toozee
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You'll dig it after the first 2 wks. After that you'll be used to it.
You'll be in the zone by week 4 or 5. It's just too easy after that.
Next wk is week 11 for me. I'm about done.
As of now, I'm down 20 lbs and @ about 10-11%bf.
I didnt vary my pro/fat ratio's as much as Mr.X shows, but consistancy worked well for me. (50/50 to 40/60, pro/fat)
- eggs, bacon (or sausage)
- cheddar brauts (these were good, lotsa bad fat though)
- tuna, chicken, beef, fish (u know the protein drill!)
- Olive oil, canola, peanut mix oil. Or just olive oil is good, the mixed just happened to be on sale. only 1g sat fat.
(this is what will get fat intake up to where it has to be)
- hamburger patty w/cheese .....
- Ranch dressing goes with almost anything !
(make sure its full fat ranch though)
- pepperoni slices are good snacks.
- String cheese is your friend.
- WALNUTS rule! lots of fat, some protein and 3g carbs, but its all fiber.
- If you drink coffee, heavy whipping cream is like smack!
plenty of fat cals, and it makes coffee awsome.
- Diet DR. PEPPER is the only soft drink without hydrocitric / citric
acid. If you drink softdrinks, learn to like this.
(those acids kick you out of keto)
- Remember some people get kicked out by aspertame.....I do not
(thank God) .....so chk with ketostix til you know for sure.
Holy crap......I've gone on forever!
Best of luck to ya!!!
-2Z-
You'll be in the zone by week 4 or 5. It's just too easy after that.
Next wk is week 11 for me. I'm about done.
As of now, I'm down 20 lbs and @ about 10-11%bf.
I didnt vary my pro/fat ratio's as much as Mr.X shows, but consistancy worked well for me. (50/50 to 40/60, pro/fat)
- eggs, bacon (or sausage)
- cheddar brauts (these were good, lotsa bad fat though)
- tuna, chicken, beef, fish (u know the protein drill!)
- Olive oil, canola, peanut mix oil. Or just olive oil is good, the mixed just happened to be on sale. only 1g sat fat.
(this is what will get fat intake up to where it has to be)
- hamburger patty w/cheese .....
- Ranch dressing goes with almost anything !
(make sure its full fat ranch though)
- pepperoni slices are good snacks.
- String cheese is your friend.
- WALNUTS rule! lots of fat, some protein and 3g carbs, but its all fiber.
- If you drink coffee, heavy whipping cream is like smack!
plenty of fat cals, and it makes coffee awsome.
- Diet DR. PEPPER is the only soft drink without hydrocitric / citric
acid. If you drink softdrinks, learn to like this.
(those acids kick you out of keto)
- Remember some people get kicked out by aspertame.....I do not
(thank God) .....so chk with ketostix til you know for sure.
Holy crap......I've gone on forever!
Best of luck to ya!!!
-2Z-
here's a few of my quick meals
protein blend
clelery and natural peanut butter
tuna
flax oil
string cheese
beef sticks
Jerky
flax
kippered herring
oysters
salad with hb eggs, cheese, ham, and full fat dressing
Just a few of the quicker meals. Good luck with the diet! I am starting my 4th week tomorrow and people are already telling me my face looks thinner. I love this diet. It's so simple. The meat can get pretty spendy though.
protein blend
clelery and natural peanut butter
tuna
flax oil
string cheese
beef sticks
Jerky
flax
kippered herring
oysters
salad with hb eggs, cheese, ham, and full fat dressing
Just a few of the quicker meals. Good luck with the diet! I am starting my 4th week tomorrow and people are already telling me my face looks thinner. I love this diet. It's so simple. The meat can get pretty spendy though.
the nature boy
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that's one giant fishbowl then.
are you taking carbs postworkout?
and do you drink booze at all?
are you taking carbs postworkout?
and do you drink booze at all?
The Nature Boy said:
Fuck...set myself up for that one.
I started the diet yesterday and didn't have a workout...today I'm working out. Plan on a MRP afterwards....sound good?
I drink once in a great while....I am in a wedding this weekend and will be tapping the bottle, and drinking out of it too.
the nature boy
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I was wondering what post workout carbs to do ketosis.
and I was wondering what alcohol does to ketosis as well.
and I was wondering what alcohol does to ketosis as well.
the nature boy
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beastboy said:
trying to help? I'm just asking questions big head.
What is the right range for carbs post workout?
flexygrl
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Hi,
I'm new here. I was thinking of starting CKD. I did a search on it, but I'm still confused. Does it work well for a women or is it mostly for men. On the carb up days, what do you eat. Is it strictly carbs only. How can I find out how many carbs are in things like veggies. Obviously, I'm very confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm new here. I was thinking of starting CKD. I did a search on it, but I'm still confused. Does it work well for a women or is it mostly for men. On the carb up days, what do you eat. Is it strictly carbs only. How can I find out how many carbs are in things like veggies. Obviously, I'm very confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
PoyeBoy
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The Nature Boy said:
shit, now you guys got me second guessing mahself, I believe I had read numorous times that taking 20-30 gms of carbs post workout will not kick you out of ketosis
I have done several searches in the past 20 minutes and have came to the conclusion that taking carbs postworkout may or may not kick you out of ketosis, I believe this is based on how your body reacts to the postworkout carbs, therefore it is different from person to person.
I might try and take some R-ala with mah pw shake and see how that works out, personnaly I dont get kicked out after pw shake, some say even whey protien will shortly interupt ketosis, so maybe casien and 20-30 gms of carbs, 1 tbls of flax, and 1 r-ala cap would be ideal, not sure
just be like Nature Boy, him and Bilt like mix it up and try different things now and again
PoyeBoy
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flexygrl said:Hi,
I'm new here. I was thinking of starting CKD. I did a search on it, but I'm still confused. Does it work well for a women or is it mostly for men. On the carb up days, what do you eat. Is it strictly carbs only. How can I find out how many carbs are in things like veggies. Obviously, I'm very confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I believe it works well for women, but correct me if Im wrong here, but I believe that women have more estrogenic fat, therefore sometimes this can be known as "stubborn fat", and it can be harder to get rid of. Also I know I dropped a bunch of water weight when i started this, and women do hold more water, so right off the bat you might lose more than a man
try this before askin 7,985,387 questions, trust me there is much more than you could even believe
http://www.c-k-d.com/forums/
http://www.fitday.com/
http://www.netgirlsmall.com/CARBSHEEET.htm
Oh and one more thing, I beleive Beastgirl, Bilt and Gayture boy will back me up on this one, show us your tits, now
the nature boy
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wait a minute. somhow I don't think that's really her. nobody sits in a giant blueberry pie nowadays.
BUSTED.
BUSTED.
flexygrl
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Hey Nature Boy,
No I swear it's me! Aren't I hot!!! You should try the blueberry pie thing!! It's really good for your skin!
Thanks for the infor everyone! It is really appreciated. But, one question was left un-answered. What do you eat on the carb up days? I am planning on posting to the womens board soon. Thanks again.
No I swear it's me! Aren't I hot!!! You should try the blueberry pie thing!! It's really good for your skin!
Thanks for the infor everyone! It is really appreciated. But, one question was left un-answered. What do you eat on the carb up days? I am planning on posting to the womens board soon. Thanks again.
PoyeBoy
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flexygrl said:
Myself, I eat a mix of carbs, pasta bread, ice cream, candy, cereal, soda, Im pretty sure I have heard eat high gi carbs(sugar, maltodextrin, fructose, dextrose) earlier and then eat low-mid gi carbs(potatoes, rice, pasta) later on
For me, i just eat what I want, lol
the nature boy
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flexygrl said:
normally girls that big aren't my type. But since you probably taste like blueberrys I'll give you a shot.
BTW the c-k-d.com site has a lot of good info.
See if I can get some more info from you fellas......
On CKD do you follow the recommeded workouts or use your typical W/O. I'd like to stick to my one body part/day split.
Depletion workout: Is it really necessary to get results?
Post workout carbs: I am still seeing conflicting info from various sites....I'm thinking about waiting till I am in ketosis first than try PW carbs and see if it kicks me out.
On CKD do you follow the recommeded workouts or use your typical W/O. I'd like to stick to my one body part/day split.
Depletion workout: Is it really necessary to get results?
Post workout carbs: I am still seeing conflicting info from various sites....I'm thinking about waiting till I am in ketosis first than try PW carbs and see if it kicks me out.
gymtime
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beastboy said:
I didn't know they recommend workouts as well. Can you tell us what they recommend? When I was on the Adkins, I just did my regular workout. Seemed to work just fine.
As for post workout carbs, unless I'm mistaken (highly doubtful), they spike your insulin just like any other carb. The reason for post workout carbs is because that's when your body is most able to utilize them, but the insulin spike remains.
the nature boy
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supposedly the depletion workout primes your body even more for your carb day(s). it's not suppsed to be muscle building workout, more of a glucose burning one.
the nature broly
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I wonder if CKD can reduce the size of a persons head.
the nature boy
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how's it going beastbroly? tired? share with the class how you're feeling on day 3 of ckd.
The Nature Boy said:
Day 4, Tulip....
beastbroly?? I get it now.
Okay...dragging ass....felt real weak in the gym yesterday, still foggy and jittery today....scale says down 3 pounds, feel less bloated as well, but flat too. So far, no real cravings and still excited by the diet.
You going to try it?
the nature boy
New member
yeah I am going to try it. are doing a one day carb up or a 2 day?
the nature boy
New member
I'm totally up for it... but I am a little concerned about not taking carbs post workout. recovery will suffer big time.
Like I've said...I was sketchy on this too.....Mr. X says no, but CKD.com says yes. Poyeboy is having good results taking in PW carbs.
I actually just told gymtime yesterday I am going to go a week or so no PW carbs see how I can do going from in and out ketosis and go from there. I' just don't want to run the risk of being kicked out prematurely.
I actually just told gymtime yesterday I am going to go a week or so no PW carbs see how I can do going from in and out ketosis and go from there. I' just don't want to run the risk of being kicked out prematurely.
the nature boy
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hey which mr x article says it's okay? can you post a link?
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alien amp pharm
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Brolys, I started this Monday for the first time. Nothing but fats & protein. I feel better today (Wed.), but the first two days I felt like complete crap. I suppose my 'ketones' are finally burning the fat (If I understand this correctly).
I have been taking a post workout shake that contains SOME carbs along with ALA & Vanadyl. That's the only carbs I get, except the 1-3 per serving in some of the foods I'm consuming.
I have been taking a post workout shake that contains SOME carbs along with ALA & Vanadyl. That's the only carbs I get, except the 1-3 per serving in some of the foods I'm consuming.
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alien amp pharm
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Alright I admit to being ignorant on this subject. How do you check to see?
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alien amp pharm
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beastboy said:And you researched this? LOL I kind of skimmed thru some sites, catching the basics.
Ketostix...piss on them. I saw something on Ketostix, but I didn't consider it important. lol. I wasn't aware you pissed on them either.
Other things are they way you fell...breath... Well I feel like crap, so maybe that's a good thing. I can't wait until carb up day.
TheProject
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beastboy said:
Damn you're a dick.
HG Pennypacker
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"I saw something on Ketostix, but I didn't consider it important. lol. I wasn't aware you pissed on them either."
See. This is where I went wrong as well. I knew about the pissing. But I thought it was Cheetosstix. So I pissed on a cheeto and all that happened was the cheeto got soggy and I got peeps on my hand and the toilet seat. Come to think of it, that's not unusual anyway.
Anywho.....the cheeto didn't turn purple and I ate 4 Hostess Cupcakes.
See. This is where I went wrong as well. I knew about the pissing. But I thought it was Cheetosstix. So I pissed on a cheeto and all that happened was the cheeto got soggy and I got peeps on my hand and the toilet seat. Come to think of it, that's not unusual anyway.
Anywho.....the cheeto didn't turn purple and I ate 4 Hostess Cupcakes.
the nature boy
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beastboy said:
well if you're under your maintenence caloric intake... you'll lose even more wieght. problem is you'll be losing muscle too.
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The Shadow
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I havent read responses....foods that helped me:
Pork rinds
All sorts of nuts
salads with ham turket bacon etc with ranch dressing
bacon
counrty ham
eggs
beef
cheese
Pork rinds
All sorts of nuts
salads with ham turket bacon etc with ranch dressing
bacon
counrty ham
eggs
beef
cheese
the nature boy
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beastboy said:
I think it's hard to tell what the rate is.
as for being made fun of on a different site... that's nothing new. however it is kind of flattering that I'm the butt of all jokes on two different websites.
too bad I cant visit steroidology..... that website name won't fly here. it's a stupid name if you ask me.
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alien amp pharm
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beastboy said:
lol, I just saw it.
Hey, at least he's popular.
PoyeBoy
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beastboy said:
I had plane prok rinds the other night, they are kind off flavorless, so I dipped them in ranch bacon chip dip, it was pretty good.
BeastToy, I stopped taking carbs postworkout just to see the difference, I havent noticed anyhting yet, but like I said before, for some people taking carbs pw will kick them out of ketosis, some people it wont
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ariolanine
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Dial_tone said:
Isn't that only about 2400 ckals? If so, why that low?
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ariolanine
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beastboy said:
Obviously, but bodweight times 12 is standard for cutting. He would be doing bodyweight times 10.
HumorMe
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beastboy said:
I wanted to do it along with my wife but she can't eat the type of foods that are required because of medical reasons plus she is a teacher and the last thing she needs to be is fuzzy while teaching
She has high triglycerides because of shitty genetics and can't eat the things necessary for this diet. I still might try it but right now I'm doing a diet and having good results.
Of course any fat fuckers like myself has to lose weight if they are trying but I think a lot of mine has been fluid loss and maybe 5 pounds of fat.
Damn, I hate getting old! Get the weight off before you turn 40 because after that, it's hell.
the nature boy
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beastboy said:
I forgot, are you doing a one day or 2 day or 36 hour re-feed. I'm curious to see how much weight you'll gain back. if it's 3 pounds I'd consider that a success.
do you look leaner? fuck what a scale says.
The Nature Boy said:
I was thinking about doing a refeed starting this evening through tomorrow eveing, but to be honest, I'm not craving enough...and still have my sanity, so I plan on just doing a refeed tomorrow. I'm going to get up, have an apple, do my depletion workout, and then continue with my refeed. I'm really happy so far with how I feel (overall)...and still have a good attitude about the diet...those are two things I couldn't on too long whenever I did a Beverly diet. Also I'm not doing any cardio either.
My wife just commented last night that my stomach looked leaner.....that could be attributed to water, but at least it is noticeable.
HG Pennypacker
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HG Pennypacker said:
LMAO.....i'm a funny fucker sometimes.
In any case, when the beastmeister told me he was doing this I thought I could never do it. Today is my 12th day. I started at 201 and today I weighed in at 188. Granted....mostly water, but that's okay for now. I've been under 20g of carbs every day so far. Once I got past the third day, I was good to go. My niece's birthday party with two types of cake was tough, but I made it through.
I did the first week as Atkins because I haven't been able to work upper body for sometime now. I'm just coming off prednisone for my shoulder injury and i'll be back in the gym next week. I'm planning on doing a refeed on Sunday and then go forward as CKD. My wife has lost almost 5 lbs already and only has 5 more to go.
I know this was asked earlier in the thread, but i'm not sure if it was answered. Is the depletion workout critical?
HG Pennypacker
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WODIN said:
Well you have to start somewhere, you old bastard. You should be on it before us. You're much closer to death than we are.
the nature boy
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I don't know if critical is the word to use, but the depletion workout primes your body for the refeed.HG Pennypacker said:
Scarlett33
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I started a modifyed keto diet wed. and am well into ketosis this am. They have always worked really well for me for fast wt.loss. I don't do a carb up day. I do more of a carb cycling thing. I have found that I can still eat a fair amt. of carbs and still lose wt and stay in ketosis.flexygrl said:Hi,
I'm new here. I was thinking of starting CKD. I did a search on it, but I'm still confused. Does it work well for a women or is it mostly for men. On the carb up days, what do you eat. Is it strictly carbs only. How can I find out how many carbs are in things like veggies. Obviously, I'm very confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
HG Pennypacker
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WODIN said:
LMAO!
Congrats on the 12 pounds by the way...
Ahem......13.....201-188.
I guess at that age, the side of the brain that does math starts to break down.
HG Pennypacker
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beastboy said:
I'll bet he smells like poop as well.
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