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Ever hear of a side, where your eye is bloodshot and feels like you either got soap in it or lightly hit? I know of the night vision but i haven't been able to find other effects which may be my case exactly. Much appreciated like always

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dylangemelli said:
i have never dosed over 25 mg bro and never would... sarms a bit different in terms of dosings... there's sweet spots on them but if you surpass those sweet spots there are not benefits, just chance of problems... 25 mg is the definite sweet spot... I have seen people get gyno and have serious supression by running it at 50 mg for prolonged periods of time bro... there is no reason to ever go over 25 mg... staying at 25 is safe and you can get up to 7 lbs. of lean body mass following this protocol... if you stack it with s4 its more likely to be 4-5 lbs. but it will be such an awesome physique... hard as a rock muscles... vascularity... huge strength... 8 -12 weeks bro... dosed properly... you will be very happy!!
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Why would stacking it with s4 be less lean muscle gain ? I thought stacking them with get the most.
 
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Elockcin said:
Ever hear of a side, where your eye is bloodshot and feels like you either got soap in it or lightly hit? I know of the night vision but i haven't been able to find other effects which may be my case exactly. Much appreciated like always

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i have never head of that and i would assume you got something in your eye or are having an allergic reaction from something... it sounds like "dry eye" and you may want to go to the pharmacy and get something to clear it up... it has nothing to do with s4
 
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dallasboy said:
Why would stacking it with s4 be less lean muscle gain ? I thought stacking them with get the most.
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stacking them will most definitely get the most benefit... but total weight gain does not mean you are getting the most... when you take something that helps with cut how do you expect to gain more weight?? s4 is a muscle hardener, and adds strength and can possibly add a lb or two but it would have to be an all out bulk... its properties add the extra shred to ostarine... together they provide strength, energy, hardening, shred, lean body mass, etc...
 
dylangemelli said:
stacking them will most definitely get the most benefit... but total weight gain does not mean you are getting the most... when you take something that helps with cut how do you expect to gain more weight?? s4 is a muscle hardener, and adds strength and can possibly add a lb or two but it would have to be an all out bulk... its properties add the extra shred to ostarine... together they provide strength, energy, hardening, shred, lean body mass, etc...
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Gotcha. So osta is more for more lean gains and s4 is more the cutter. I'm doing both and in my 5th week out of 8 and been cutting and weight up 2 lbs, good fat loss. So assuming 4-5 lbs of muscle gain. Next run may just be osta for more lean gains thou. Love Sarms for sure!!
 
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sarms are so awesome man... you can gain on both... osta is one you can actually run a bulk on if you want but they go much better together... s4 is the cutter yes but you can cut on them both...
 
Awesome thanks again!! Im sure ill find some other noob question to ask later.. Just good to know my alien bloodshot looking eye isn't due to my receptors being destroyed or one of the many creative things i was thinking it could be :0

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Elockcin said:
Awesome thanks again!! Im sure ill find some other noob question to ask later.. Just good to know my alien bloodshot looking eye isn't due to my receptors being destroyed or one of the many creative things i was thinking it could be :0

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no problem bro... if you ever need anything else, let me know!
 
So Osta and S-4 have a very strong taste which usually requires a chaser but GW-501516 is pretty much flavorless.... is this right?

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oxymoron said:
So Osta and S-4 have a very strong taste which usually requires a chaser but GW-501516 is pretty much flavorless.... is this right?

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most people think the tastes are strong... for me, they are definitely not good by any means but i never used a chaser... they were "tolerable" but i would get them down as quickly as possible... and yes gw pretty much tastes like nothing at all...
 
Just wondering... Running test and trying to decide between osta or Clen.. I get pretty bad Clen shakes an such.. can hardly do anything for a while after using it.. Have to time it after gym and cardio lol, so if osta works anything as good or similar I'd probably start using that.

Also, what's your opinion/do you have any experience using osta with tren/test cycle, or stacking with

Cheers in advance guys!
 
Ok Dylan, got a huge question. Just came off small test cycle. Was going to do some osta and S-4 with my pct. First week was fine but. Ow I am getting hella heartburn.. I mean like heart attack heartburn. Any ideas??
 
So I ordered 3 bottles s-4 and 1 bottle osta last saturday and got a confirmation email of my order. I havent received any shipping information or any news of my order being shipped. I know osta or s-4 is back ordered right now, so are they just going to wait until they get it in stock then ship my whole order together? Its not a big deal, thats the way id want them to do it I just want to make sure. Oh I bought from uniquechemicals. They have wayyyy better prices than sarmssearch

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Backtobasicks said:
Just wondering... Running test and trying to decide between osta or Clen.. I get pretty bad Clen shakes an such.. can hardly do anything for a while after using it.. Have to time it after gym and cardio lol, so if osta works anything as good or similar I'd probably start using that.

Also, what's your opinion/do you have any experience using osta with tren/test cycle, or stacking with

Cheers in advance guys!
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personally i would never touch clen... its dangerous and just dirty to me... so I would rule that out if it was me... and look at what you just said... you get clen shakes and can barely do anything after using it, causing you extra anxiety and who knows what else?? you know what i mean...

osta would be awesome for you... if you run it stacked with s4 your going to get the results i think you are looking for... im under the impression you want a cut but by stacking them your going to get a sweet cut and get a lot of strength and some added muscle size... excellent lean mass...

i have never ran osta with a tren/test cycle but you most certainly can if you like...

i think the osta and s4 stack will suit you better than you could imagine...
 
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nelson_303 said:
Ok Dylan, got a huge question. Just came off small test cycle. Was going to do some osta and S-4 with my pct. First week was fine but. Ow I am getting hella heartburn.. I mean like heart attack heartburn. Any ideas??
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bro you are not to ever run s4 in a pct, EVER... thats a NO... you can run osta but if you are running s4 in your pct, cease use now!

i have never heard of either sarm causing heart burn... what else are you taking?
 
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So I ordered 3 bottles s-4 and 1 bottle osta last saturday and got a confirmation email of my order. I havent received any shipping information or any news of my order being shipped. I know osta or s-4 is back ordered right now, so are they just going to wait until they get it in stock then ship my whole order together? Its not a big deal, thats the way id want them to do it I just want to make sure. Oh I bought from uniquechemicals. They have wayyyy better prices than sarmssearch

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they will ship it when all of it is ready... its going to be another week before the s4 is in stock but then it will be shipped and you will received two confirmation letters... one, when it is being prepared in the warehouse and two, when it is shipped...
 
Hi Dylan just a quick question.
Do you think osta ran on cycle would help with joint pain. Iv heard its has joint Healing effects. Wat do you think?
 
Ok will drop S-4. Thought it did not suppress if taken in low doses.. But the only other things I have added to the normal stuff Is Allegra.. So have no ideas?? Can list stats and history crap if needed.
 
dylangemelli said:
they will ship it when all of it is ready... its going to be another week before the s4 is in stock but then it will be shipped and you will received two confirmation letters... one, when it is being prepared in the warehouse and two, when it is shipped...
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Thanks for the quick response bro!

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I am looking to drop some weight before a run a 8 week test/epi cycle. If I ran GW for for 4 weeks would it be ok to go straight into the test/epi cycle? I am also going to run light osta in pct.

Another quick question: I have been on natty test boosters for 7 weeks and forma for 3. Do I need to cut those out or do any mild pct before running the gw or going into the test/epi cycle? Your advice is appreciated!

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First of all I commend your efforts here to inform, its what the board is for, so K to you. Its been a year since I was active on this sight and i can tell a lot has happened in the world of SARMs. So I have a couple of questions
I am running a low test cyp at 200ml/ every 5 days for 8 -10 weeks (not sure which kinda depends on the bloat. I am staying on a pretty strict diet and using the test to help keep muscle while i cut fat. I will prob be running Adex .5 e3d from week 4 to 2 weeks after last pin. My PCT will be Nolva. Would this osta SARM work well in this PCT?

Question 2
My wife eats clean and runs3-5 miles a day she is looking to cut the last of the winter fat and be on the boat shredded. Is osta or the GW the right sarm for a female? She is approx 125 what would be the proper dose for the one you recommend?

Thanks in advance.
 
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more steel said:
I am looking to drop some weight before a run a 8 week test/epi cycle. If I ran GW for for 4 weeks would it be ok to go straight into the test/epi cycle? I am also going to run light osta in pct.

Another quick question: I have been on natty test boosters for 7 weeks and forma for 3. Do I need to cut those out or do any mild pct before running the gw or going into the test/epi cycle? Your advice is appreciated!

Age:26
5'8"
235
BF?? Probably around 18% but getting hydrostatic weight soon.
Lifted since age 16. Took some time off and been back lifting hard for 3 months.
In the cupboard: epi, andropen 275, forma, daa, forged pct, Liv52, Athletix Division 1 (SHBG inhibitor)... And growing! (SARMS and HCGenerate are next)
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You will be fine to run gw for 4 weeks going into your test cycle... I recommend dosing gw at 20 mg a day for maximum results... 10 mg is sufficient but 20 mg is optimal... you want to run split doses, one dose in the a.m. and one in the p.m...

You can run the test booster alongside if you want... it really does not matter because you are running forma and that will prevent any bloat or water retention... so either way is fine..

you want to make sure you are under 15% body fat before you run your test cycle...

if you have any other questions, let me know
 
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lander2312 said:
First of all I commend your efforts here to inform, its what the board is for, so K to you. Its been a year since I was active on this sight and i can tell a lot has happened in the world of SARMs. So I have a couple of questions
I am running a low test cyp at 200ml/ every 5 days for 8 -10 weeks (not sure which kinda depends on the bloat. I am staying on a pretty strict diet and using the test to help keep muscle while i cut fat. I will prob be running Adex .5 e3d from week 4 to 2 weeks after last pin. My PCT will be Nolva. Would this osta SARM work well in this PCT?

Question 2
My wife eats clean and runs3-5 miles a day she is looking to cut the last of the winter fat and be on the boat shredded. Is osta or the GW the right sarm for a female? She is approx 125 what would be the proper dose for the one you recommend?

Thanks in advance.
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thank you for the kind words and for the K... I enjoy helping as much as possible and SARMS are so wonderful, I want everyone to have a great experience with them and to be as safe as possible...

so to get to your question... there is often a debate on whether osta is good for pct or not... It can cause slight supression if dosed too high however at a medial dose of 12.5 mg a day, it can be very effective in pct... i know a lot of guys who use it in pct (me included) with excellent results and no supression... so i do recommend it... never exceed 25 mg a day though... with osta, you only dose it once a day, in the a.m... since this is a sarms thread I am not going to divulge into your cycle... just know this... i do not recommend nolva at all, its shit and if your worried about bloat, look into running test prop instead... =)

as for your wife, gw would be a great choice for her... the optimal dose of gw is 20 mg a day... a lot of people dose 10 mg with great effect and because of the price... it can be pricey to do 20 mg a day but on a 4 week cycle its manageable and the results will be well worth it...

if you need anything else, let me know!
 
Thanks for the reply. Think I will go order her and I both a bottle now.

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Just placed my order. 2bottles of the GW for the wife and a bottle of MK for my pct. Kinda wondering if the GW might not be good to use during pct to keep cutting even during PCT. Any opinion on that bro?
 
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you don't want to cut during pct... that's just not wise at all... i would not run gw in pct at all man
 
Yeah that didnt come across how i was thinking...lol I am running this whole cycle while eating spot on to burn fat. Not looking to bulk at all. Trying to get in shape for boating season. I am not going to be in a comp cut diet...just really focusing on slow but steady fat burning while retaining the muscle already built. Will take your advice and not run the GW during pct.

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lander2312 said:
Yeah that didnt come across how i was thinking...lol I am running this whole cycle while eating spot on to burn fat. Not looking to bulk at all. Trying to get in shape for boating season. I am not going to be in a comp cut diet...just really focusing on slow but steady fat burning while retaining the muscle already built. Will take your advice and not run the GW during pct.

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lolll i had a feeling it didn't... thats cool man... so what did you run for a previous cycle? if your wanting to hold on to your gains but burn fat as well then I think your best bet is to run the osta and s4 stack... it will be much better for you as opposed to running gw solo... gw is more for endurance and as well as losing weight... of course you will lose fat, but the weight will be coming off too... osta and s4 will help you lose fat but keep your weight... if you get a chance, check out my log i ran... i actually gained 4 lbs. but my body fat dropped... that's always my goal... to put on weight but lose body fat and it is definitely attainable... anyway, look into it and you need advice, im always here to help... unless im at the gym... =)
 
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dylangemelli said:
You will be fine to run gw for 4 weeks going into your test cycle... I recommend dosing gw at 20 mg a day for maximum results... 10 mg is sufficient but 20 mg is optimal... you want to run split doses, one dose in the a.m. and one in the p.m...

You can run the test booster alongside if you want... it really does not matter because you are running forma and that will prevent any bloat or water retention... so either way is fine..

you want to make sure you are under 15% body fat before you run your test cycle...

if you have any other questions, let me know
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Thank you! I have been researching AAS on and off for 5 years and I've finally worked up the courage to run a cycle. I'm trying to make sure I do it right and have all the information I need to be successful. I have read a lot of your posts on here and they have really helped me. Why do recommend getting down to 15% bf before running the cycle? Thanks in advance for you advice.
 
I always just run a low dose of test. Always use just enough to see results. I have used dieselbolan on the front of last one. I have a script and like to keep thing legal plus I like to know the stuff I put in my body wasnt mixed together in a bathtub...lol

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more steel said:
Thank you! I have been researching AAS on and off for 5 years and I've finally worked up the courage to run a cycle. I'm trying to make sure I do it right and have all the information I need to be successful. I have read a lot of your posts on here and they have really helped me. Why do recommend getting down to 15% bf before running the cycle? Thanks in advance for you advice.
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because your just not going to see the proper results at a high body fat... your not going to get the full potential from the cycle... how can you see what kind of muscle you are building when your that fat? also, one would assume at that high of weight your blood pressure is probably not great and your overall health probably is not either... you need to understand that a lot of ph's and aas can affect your bp amongst other things... its important on so many levels...
 
dylangemelli said:
because your just not going to see the proper results at a high body fat... your not going to get the full potential from the cycle... how can you see what kind of muscle you are building when your that fat? also, one would assume at that high of weight your blood pressure is probably not great and your overall health probably is not either... you need to understand that a lot of ph's and aas can affect your bp amongst other things... its important on so many levels...
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Ok thanks!
 
So Im really stoked, due to the help you have provided iv dropped from 10.4% bf to 9.0% in a month. Iv lost a pound of muscle which semi surprised me sense Im running s-4,osta, katana(for 2 weeks so far) and didn't go with gw..perhaps my diet is off some how unless this is typical with s-4 osta stack while cutting..on a positive my strength and stam are amazing so again thank you

My new question ha, is after reading all about sarms, what i don't undestand is why osta,s-4 wouldn't be recommended if i was planning my first Ph (minus katana), a beast/katana stack. I.guess Im asking why s-4 isn't something to add along a beast stack but osta is still ok? my goal after my current s-4 osta katana cut is to start adding more lbm. Make sense? Im kinda new at saying what Im questioning and trying to accomplish

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Ok so edit, now i see you have recommended in another post running s-4 and osta on another gents cycle? i obviously have a learning.curve problem :0

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Elockcin said:
Ok so edit, now i see you have recommended in another post running s-4 and osta on another gents cycle? i obviously have a learning.curve problem :0

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lol i was going to say!! A cycle of beast, katana, osta and s4 is highly recommended... that cycle would produce fucking amazing results...

I am glad that things are working out for you... keep killing it and working hard!
 
Hey how would you use GW505156? How many bottles should I pick up from uniquemicals for a good fat loss run?

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hardcorerider34 said:
Hey how would you use GW505156? How many bottles should I pick up from uniquemicals for a good fat loss run?

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the optimal dosing for gw is 20 mg a day, but it can be pricey... a lot of people run it at 10 mg a day and have great results but 20 is optimal... running it at 10 a day will require 2 bottles for the month... 4 bottles for the month at 20 mg... split the doses in half... once in the a.m. and once in the p.m.
 
dylangemelli said:
the optimal dosing for gw is 20 mg a day, but it can be pricey... a lot of people run it at 10 mg a day and have great results but 20 is optimal... running it at 10 a day will require 2 bottles for the month... 4 bottles for the month at 20 mg... split the doses in half... once in the a.m. and once in the p.m.
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Sounds good. Ill pick up 2 bottles. Do I work up to 10mg a day or just start and stay at it for full month. And no pct correct.

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Running osta and s4 through my pct. I know it's Ill advised but it is an experiment and have been running hcgenerate for last 4 weeks of 8 week cycle. Started up on post cycle and unleashed as well. Will be providing bloodwork. So far with no test in my system and nearly 2 weeks on the sarms I feel better than on cycle. More energy and I'm pretty certain my nuts are even gaining some size back.( they werent that atrophied at all but my sex drive still is good and I'm feeling good! eAlso have maintained weight at 200 and about 10% bf. pumps are sick on the sarms better for me that on cycle!. Looking to gain 5 more pounds !-Mike
 
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Rustilldown said:
Running osta and s4 through my pct. I know it's Ill advised but it is an experiment and have been running hcgenerate for last 4 weeks of 8 week cycle. Started up on post cycle and unleashed as well. Will be providing bloodwork. So far with no test in my system and nearly 2 weeks on the sarms I feel better than on cycle. More energy and I'm pretty certain my nuts are even gaining some size back.( they werent that atrophied at all but my sex drive still is good and I'm feeling good! eAlso have maintained weight at 200 and about 10% bf. pumps are sick on the sarms better for me that on cycle!. Looking to gain 5 more pounds !-Mike
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there are a lot of people who have felt just as good, if not better with SARMS than on cycle... Just know that I do not condone or recommend running s4 in your pct... So that was obviously your own decision...

you will definitely see a big increase in energy and will definitely gain strength on SARMS as well... I would advise to continue HCGenerate throughout the entire sarms run and also even look into daa as well... especially considering your running s4 in your pct...
 
dylangemelli said:
there are a lot of people who have felt just as good, if not better with SARMS than on cycle... Just know that I do not condone or recommend running s4 in your pct... So that was obviously your own decision...

you will definitely see a big increase in energy and will definitely gain strength on SARMS as well... I would advise to continue HCGenerate throughout the entire sarms run and also even look into daa as well... especially considering your running s4 in your pct...
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Yeah it was def my own decision no worries or confusion there, and I will continue running hcgenerate, post cycle and unleashed and I forgot about DAA, I'll add that as well! Post post cycle I have bridge more hcgenerate and some other goodies. I have forma stanzol also I've been using 3 pumps am/pm for now. I am experienced in all aspects of diet
Training and educated with every compound that can be put into the body, just am curious to see how I react I want to keep gaining for a while longer while recovering if possible. Worst case scenario is I am still shutdown and have to do an even more aggressive pct!
Thx for your input Dylan I respect your opinion greatly and also aim for the slow lean bulk gains you have achieved. -Mike
 
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Rustilldown said:
Yeah it was def my own decision no worries or confusion there, and I will continue running hcgenerate, post cycle and unleashed and I forgot about DAA, I'll add that as well! Post post cycle I have bridge more hcgenerate and some other goodies. I have forma stanzol also I've been using 3 pumps am/pm for now. I am experienced in all aspects of diet
Training and educated with every compound that can be put into the body, just am curious to see how I react I want to keep gaining for a while longer while recovering if possible. Worst case scenario is I am still shutdown and have to do an even more aggressive pct!
Thx for your input Dylan I respect your opinion greatly and also aim for the slow lean bulk gains you have achieved. -Mike
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well i wish you nothing but the best bro... you know if you need anything to come to me bro and im here to help... stay aggressive with your pct and keep working hard... you should have some really impressive gains! good luck!
 
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Just a note to say thanks to Dylan for all his SARMs info here-- i'm almost done with my 2nd SARMs cycle, and his posts have been super helpful! Great results so far.
 
Hey Dylan thanks for the info yesterday on GW. Ordered 2 bottles last night. And I cant wait for it. I have been reading alot of great things on n2slin, would this go well with GW?

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gooseass said:
Just a note to say thanks to Dylan for all his SARMs info here-- i'm almost done with my 2nd SARMs cycle, and his posts have been super helpful! Great results so far.
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thanks for the kind words bro... im so glad to have been a help to you and you know if you need anything, im always here to help you!
 
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hardcorerider34 said:
Hey Dylan thanks for the info yesterday on GW. Ordered 2 bottles last night. And I cant wait for it. I have been reading alot of great things on n2slin, would this go well with GW?

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absolutely it would... I think if you ran gw, forged burner and need2slin that you would be one cut up motherfucker by cycles end... need2slin will go great with it...
 
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dylangemelli said:
because your just not going to see the proper results at a high body fat... your not going to get the full potential from the cycle... how can you see what kind of muscle you are building when your that fat? also, one would assume at that high of weight your blood pressure is probably not great and your overall health probably is not either... you need to understand that a lot of ph's and aas can affect your bp amongst other things... its important on so many levels...
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Ok I have another question but this is kinda eating at me. My BP never drifts far from 120/80 and if it does it normally goes down a bit. I have a solid frame and want to use the cycle to drop fat. I spent some time out of the gym (was inconsistant for 2 years) but am back at it and have already peeled of 25lbs (was at my all time high). I was a state champion wrestler is HS at 215lbs but never could see more than 4 abs. Im about as stocky as they come but I am not in that bad of shape for a fat kid :). Ok sorry, I was just going to let it roll of my shoulder but I felt like I needed to stick up for myself.

Anyways... Do you know of any coupon codes for uniquemicals? I will be placing an order for GW and OSTA soon.

PS this thread has been the single most helpful thing on the application of SARMs that I have been able to find. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
 
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more steel said:
Ok I have another question but this is kinda eating at me. My BP never drifts far from 120/80 and if it does it normally goes down a bit. I have a solid frame and want to use the cycle to drop fat. I spent some time out of the gym (was inconsistant for 2 years) but am back at it and have already peeled of 25lbs (was at my all time high). I was a state champion wrestler is HS at 215lbs but never could see more than 4 abs. Im about as stocky as they come but I am not in that bad of shape for a fat kid :). Ok sorry, I was just going to let it roll of my shoulder but I felt like I needed to stick up for myself.

Anyways... Do you know of any coupon codes for uniquemicals? I will be placing an order for GW and OSTA soon.

PS this thread has been the single most helpful thing on the application of SARMs that I have been able to find. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
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thank you for the kind words and you are very welcome!

here is a coupon code for an extra 10% off... "ftjqhl"

if you need anything else along the way, let me know!! good luck!
 
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hardcorerider34 said:
Thanks alot. Ill make my order tonight.

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hey again. I went to make my order at Needtobuildmuscle.com and they are out of both N2slin and forgedburner, and wont be in stock for atlest another 2 weeks. I was wondering if there is anything else you would recomend with GW.
 
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did you check at mr supps? i think they have forged burner in stock. you can just stockpile your order when it comes in from ntbm.com.

This is what i did tonight hardcorerider: as leaving work took 10mg GW, 25mg S4, 2 forged burners, 2 n2slin, 1 ibuprofen. 45 min later ran 4 miles outside around gym moderate pace approx 8min/mi. went inside and did elliptical for 30 min and watched the news, stretched, lifted chest 45 min crazy intensity with min rest between sets, was feeling like my workout wasn't near satifying so ran 20 min of sprints on the treadmill 10+ mph at 1min with 30 sec light jog rests. Roughly 2.5 hour workout...at home now and feel great!
 
oxymoron said:
did you check at mr supps? i think they have forged burner in stock. you can just stockpile your order when it comes in from ntbm.com.

This is what i did tonight hardcorerider: as leaving work took 10mg GW, 25mg S4, 2 forged burners, 2 n2slin, 1 ibuprofen. 45 min later ran 4 miles outside around gym moderate pace approx 8min/mi. went inside and did elliptical for 30 min and watched the news, stretched, lifted chest 45 min crazy intensity with min rest between sets, was feeling like my workout wasn't near satifying so ran 20 min of sprints on the treadmill 10+ mph at 1min with 30 sec light jog rests. Roughly 2.5 hour workout...at home now and feel great!
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Wow now thats a workout. Ill get over to mrsupps to get some forged burner tomorrow thanks. Keep killing it at the gym!

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hardcorerider34 said:
hey again. I went to make my order at Needtobuildmuscle.com and they are out of both N2slin and forgedburner, and wont be in stock for atlest another 2 weeks. I was wondering if there is anything else you would recomend with GW.
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yes mr supps has forged burner in stock right now... use code needto10 and get 10% off and free shipping... need2slin will be back soon... you can start with the burner and gw and will get excellent results... you could also add s4 to the mix as well...
 
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oxymoron said:
I forget what thread I saw it in but look up the workout dylan typically did on gw... f'ing balls out.



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thats not just on gw my friend, thats on anyting!! =) nice work on your workout btw! trust me though, every day of the week, i go that fucking hard....
 
dylangemelli said:
yes mr supps has forged burner in stock right now... use code needto10 and get 10% off and free shipping... need2slin will be back soon... you can start with the burner and gw and will get excellent results... you could also add s4 to the mix as well...
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Thanks. Ill get my order into mrsupps tonight after work. Ill look into the s4 and see if its in my budget.

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Would I run the S4 with the GW or run it after the GW run? I read earlier in the thread to run after GW to harden up. Any thoughts?

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hardcorerider34 said:
Would I run the S4 with the GW or run it after the GW run? I read earlier in the thread to run after GW to harden up. Any thoughts?

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you can do it either way... you could try to run them both together for 4 weeks and then continue s4 solo or with ostarine the next 4... they are all fine to run together, no matter which way you stack them...
 
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dylangemelli said:
you can do it either way... you could try to run them both together for 4 weeks and then continue s4 solo or with ostarine the next 4... they are all fine to run together, no matter which way you stack them...
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Hey thanks once again. I just placed my another order over at Uniquemicals.com for 2 bottles of s4 and 1 bottle of MK-2866.
 
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Hope im not too late for the questions let me say thank you by the way for all this info I literally read from 1 to 17 but I still have a couple of questions if you dont mind, I am on week two of Epistane/havoc its a mild ph I am only running it for 4 weeks by the end of the 4th week I will start my pct I have tamoxifen and toremifene but will probably take the tamoxifen since I dont have enough of the other stuff, from what i understand you dont recommend s4 for pct so I am going to take osta only so i was confused can I take osta the same week as my first week of pct on nolva and should I taper osta by taking 25mg in the beginning pct week and slowly lower to 12.5mg in the later weeks ?
 
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Wellgoddam said:
Hope im not too late for the questions let me say thank you by the way for all this info I literally read from 1 to 17 but I still have a couple of questions if you dont mind, I am on week two of Epistane/havoc its a mild ph I am only running it for 4 weeks by the end of the 4th week I will start my pct I have tamoxifen and toremifene but will probably take the tamoxifen since I dont have enough of the other stuff, from what i understand you dont recommend s4 for pct so I am going to take osta only so i was confused can I take osta the same week as my first week of pct on nolva and should I taper osta by taking 25mg in the beginning pct week and slowly lower to 12.5mg in the later weeks ?
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you are very welcome for the info... im glad that not only did you read it all but that it was helpful to you as well... i created the thread to help as many people as I can... You are never too late for questions!

Yes, I know epistane well... you can run osta in your pct if you improve your pct but as your pct stands now, i would not use it... nolva (tamox) is shit bro... it will not be good for anything especially a recovery from epistane, which will shut you down... You can use torem in your pct, but you also need unleashed and forged pct to get fully recovered... if you can do these things that will improve your pct, then you can run osta as well, and osta will definitly help to keep your gains... you can start 25 and taper down, yes... I chose to run 25 the entire time, although most taper in pct...
 
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Useful for a Powerlifter? What kind of strength can I expect from sarms? is the recomp benefit powerful enough for me to be eating 4-5k calories a day and still gain minimal fat or is that unrealistic
 
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the small soldier said:
Useful for a Powerlifter? What kind of strength can I expect from sarms? is the recomp benefit powerful enough for me to be eating 4-5k calories a day and still gain minimal fat or is that unrealistic
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the ostarine is going to give you a nice boost in strength... i felt and many others have felt that they have really had a big strength increase with it... your not going to feel "on" but you are going to have huge bursts of energy and pretty big power surges so i think it will definitely be useful for you... i think at 4k's, if its clean calories, you will have a nice recomp benefit... the s4 is the key for that... it will keep you lean and your muscles will be hard as a fucking rock... the hardening effect happens quickly... 5k may be pushing it in terms of recomp... are you incorporating any cardio or just lifting?
 
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dylangemelli said:
the ostarine is going to give you a nice boost in strength... i felt and many others have felt that they have really had a big strength increase with it... your not going to feel "on" but you are going to have huge bursts of energy and pretty big power surges so i think it will definitely be useful for you... i think at 4k's, if its clean calories, you will have a nice recomp benefit... the s4 is the key for that... it will keep you lean and your muscles will be hard as a fucking rock... the hardening effect happens quickly... 5k may be pushing it in terms of recomp... are you incorporating any cardio or just lifting?
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currently I'm coming off a diet and I'm doing no cardio I'm up to about 208 I'll be adding cardio VERY soon because my BF has already gone from 13% to 14% but I've also gone from 192-to about 208 in just a few weeks (granted I was sitting above 200 before my diet anyway Just had high BF)
 
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the small soldier said:
currently I'm coming off a diet and I'm doing no cardio I'm up to about 208 I'll be adding cardio VERY soon because my BF has already gone from 13% to 14% but I've also gone from 192-to about 208 in just a few weeks (granted I was sitting above 200 before my diet anyway Just had high BF)
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thats a good increase with 16 lbs. and your body fat only going up 1%... good work... but... you could hold on to that weight, even add to it, and drop the body fat... sarms can help you with that... i would try about 3500 - 4000 cals, add some cardio, hit the weights like you are and i think you can accomplish this... run sarms 8-10 weeks... ostarine and s4... i think you will absolutely love it because your strength is going to be great, you will harden up and you will have excellent energy...
 
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dylangemelli said:
thats a good increase with 16 lbs. and your body fat only going up 1%... good work... but... you could hold on to that weight, even add to it, and drop the body fat... sarms can help you with that... i would try about 3500 - 4000 cals, add some cardio, hit the weights like you are and i think you can accomplish this... run sarms 8-10 weeks... ostarine and s4... i think you will absolutely love it because your strength is going to be great, you will harden up and you will have excellent energy...
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I like the sound of that! If I can add about 5 pounds of lean mass and Keep or drop BF that would do wonders for my lifting. I think I'll be running some sarms before my cycle. If I can add a few pounds without gear that's closer to my goal and the more likely the gear will take me all the way!
 
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the small soldier said:
I like the sound of that! If I can add about 5 pounds of lean mass and Keep or drop BF that would do wonders for my lifting. I think I'll be running some sarms before my cycle. If I can add a few pounds without gear that's closer to my goal and the more likely the gear will take me all the way!
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exactly! if you decide to run them and need help with dosing, let me know!
 
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the small soldier said:
I'm thinking of running for 4 weeks in june. if I like it'll run them through july. what do you think I'm looking at in terms of cost?
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for only a 4 week run... you will only need one bottle of s4 and one of ostarine (mk2866)... uniquemicals.com still has the 50% off sale going on... so you could spend $60 plus shipping for that... if you go 8 weeks... one bottle of osta will still be enough, you'll need another s4 so your looking at $80 plus shipping...
 
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dylangemelli said:
for only a 4 week run... you will only need one bottle of s4 and one of ostarine (mk2866)... uniquemicals.com still has the 50% off sale going on... so you could spend $60 plus shipping for that... if you go 8 weeks... one bottle of osta will still be enough, you'll need another s4 so your looking at $80 plus shipping...
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Not bad. I make enough money just don't want to waste it. I think i'll try with 4 weeks...you think I'll start seeing/feeling effects within the first 2 weeks?
 
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the small soldier said:
Not bad. I make enough money just don't want to waste it. I think i'll try with 4 weeks...you think I'll start seeing/feeling effects within the first 2 weeks?
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you will notice a difference from the s4 in a day or two... ostarine can take up to a week... i noticed quickly with it though as well...
 
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dylangemelli said:
you will notice a difference from the s4 in a day or two... ostarine can take up to a week... i noticed quickly with it though as well...
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I'm very interested! only way to know for sure is to try them for myself. Thanks for the info!
 
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dylangemelli said:
you are very welcome for the info... im glad that not only did you read it all but that it was helpful to you as well... i created the thread to help as many people as I can... You are never too late for questions!

Yes, I know epistane well... you can run osta in your pct if you improve your pct but as your pct stands now, i would not use it... nolva (tamox) is shit bro... it will not be good for anything especially a recovery from epistane, which will shut you down... You can use torem in your pct, but you also need unleashed and forged pct to get fully recovered... if you can do these things that will improve your pct, then you can run osta as well, and osta will definitly help to keep your gains... you can start 25 and taper down, yes... I chose to run 25 the entire time, although most taper in pct...[/QUOT

Yea ill probably get unleashed also why is nolva not a good pct personally i have never used nolva and would i be able to use s4 sometimes during my pct or shoild i wait til after pct
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Wellgoddam said:
dylangemelli said:
you are very welcome for the info... im glad that not only did you read it all but that it was helpful to you as well... i created the thread to help as many people as I can... You are never too late for questions!

Yes, I know epistane well... you can run osta in your pct if you improve your pct but as your pct stands now, i would not use it... nolva (tamox) is shit bro... it will not be good for anything especially a recovery from epistane, which will shut you down... You can use torem in your pct, but you also need unleashed and forged pct to get fully recovered... if you can do these things that will improve your pct, then you can run osta as well, and osta will definitly help to keep your gains... you can start 25 and taper down, yes... I chose to run 25 the entire time, although most taper in pct...[/QUOT

Yea ill probably get unleashed also why is nolva not a good pct personally i have never used nolva and would i be able to use s4 sometimes during my pct or shoild i wait til after pct
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read steves writeup on nolva... its NOT A GOOD PCT AT ALL... don't use it! You cannot use s4 in pct at all... you have to wait until after...
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oh ok i wont touch s4 at all during pct then wish unique would send me confirmation email just for peace of mind haha thanks again dylangemelli keep up the good work.
 
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from uniquemicals i ordered it couple of days ago but didnt get confirm email i emailed them two days ago to see if i need to reorder but never got a reply my pct isnt going to be until another 2 weeks but i just like having peace of mind knowing i have it at my disposal haha
 
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oh i ordered the mk 2866 and backordered the s4 for later use since 20$ is incredible deal couldnt resist i dont want to accidentally order again so i guess ill wait until they can confirm if it went thru or not to order and what was name of steves post on nolvadex i think that would be a good read.
 
Wellgoddam said:
oh i ordered the mk 2866 and backordered the s4 for later use since 20$ is incredible deal couldnt resist i dont want to accidentally order again so i guess ill wait until they can confirm if it went thru or not to order and what was name of steves post on nolvadex i think that would be a good read.
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Im at work on my phone so i cant send the link right now but i will when i get home... Unique will email you as soon as they get the s4 in stock... It will be sometime next week... Then they will send you a confirmation

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All good bro i just check with unique my order wasnt processed but i redid it and got a confirm letter this time thanks again tho! !
 
Ok I am going to basic training for the army this summer and just purchased 3 s-4 bottles and one osta. I was going to run them together like you suggested but with the delays on s-4, I will not have time for any type of pct before I ship. So should I just run the osta? What could I do that wouldnt require any pct? I cant bring supps to basic btw

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Laxfiend said:
Ok I am going to basic training for the army this summer and just purchased 3 s-4 bottles and one osta. I was going to run them together like you suggested but with the delays on s-4, I will not have time for any type of pct before I ship. So should I just run the osta? What could I do that wouldnt require any pct? I cant bring supps to basic btw

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I went through basic training. Don't waste your money. Any muscle you gain will be all but destroyed by the massive cardio and pedestrian calories you'll be eating. Be prepared to lose like 20+ pounds if you're over weight...or gain some muscle if you're a stick.
 
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Laxfiend said:
Ok I am going to basic training for the army this summer and just purchased 3 s-4 bottles and one osta. I was going to run them together like you suggested but with the delays on s-4, I will not have time for any type of pct before I ship. So should I just run the osta? What could I do that wouldnt require any pct? I cant bring supps to basic btw

Hey bro just a piece of advice, I wouldn't do anything at all before basic. Its designed to fuck with your head anyways and having fucked up hormones to boot....yeah i'll pass....lol. I would go in clean and ready. Good luck bro
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the small soldier said:
I went through basic training. Don't waste your money. Any muscle you gain will be all but destroyed by the massive cardio and pedestrian calories you'll be eating. Be prepared to lose like 20+ pounds if you're over weight...or gain some muscle if you're a stick.
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Haha well what if I am 7% bf and 173 lb? Im very lean but muscular. What do you think my resuls will be after basic?

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Laxfiend said:
Ok I am going to basic training for the army this summer and just purchased 3 s-4 bottles and one osta. I was going to run them together like you suggested but with the delays on s-4, I will not have time for any type of pct before I ship. So should I just run the osta? What could I do that wouldnt require any pct? I cant bring supps to basic btw

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if you run them 4 weeks you won't need any pct... once you get into the 5 and 6 week range, you need to run a mini pct...
 
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Just got a bottle of Ostarine, I'm going to start it tommorow for 6 wks at 25mg. I also have a months worth of a DAA Endosurge Erase stack that I was just about to start before I discovered Ost. How would you stack these? Thanks for any input!
 
cookdog said:
Just got a bottle of Ostarine, I'm going to start it tommorow for 6 wks at 25mg. I also have a months worth of a DAA Endosurge Erase stack that I was just about to start before I discovered Ost. How would you stack these? Thanks for any input!
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Endosurge is crap in my opinion. Took it and test levels only elevated 20 ng which is like nothing.

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Laxfiend said:
Endosurge is crap in my opinion. Took it and test levels only elevated 20 ng which is like nothing.

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Thats disappointing to hear. I heard good things about Endosurge. Oh well. I was thinking of stacking that combo the last 2 weeks of the Ost and 2 weeks after for a mini pct. Sound good?
 
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