Age does Matter!!!

[Bigsatan13]

I don't think the age is as big a problem as the amount of time training. I see alot of posts by people asking cycle questions after training for only a few months. They don't understand that they should grow as much as they can naturally before considering a cycle. That the attachments have to be strengthened so injuries from accelerated strength gains don't happen. As far as the age of moderators are concerned, I've seen some of the more intelligent posts come from the younger guys. Keep up the good work!

 

[rich197]

big up to m18 and finz nad everyone else that is young and knows there shit. I am only 22 and I have a lot better grasp on what I am doing then a lot of the older guys at the gym. age means nothing in knowelge.

 

[Jeff_rys]

5'11 is not tall either

Hey I'm 17. on my 1st cycle. Now I'm 5'11 so I don't care to much about stunting my growth, I'm healthy as a horse, very active, and so that's why I don't find such a BIG deal.

Serioulsly SOME(I said some!!!) of you make it sound so bad, for a young guy to juice, if he has everything in order, let him do it, and if he needs a little advice help him, don't just bash him.

Hey at least we are not smoking crack, or shooting heroin, so don't make it sound so bad when young juicers, juice. And like I said before at least it's not CRACK!!!!!!!

You probably will not stunt your growth, not everybody has this negative effect, but what should worry you more is:
your legs can stop growing, BUT your upperbody keeps on growing. Get the picture? Your body, although maybe of decent lenght could be out of balance. Now who wants that?

 

[needsize]

It's not so much the age thing that irritates me, it's when someone wants the physique but isn't willing to put in any time naturally to EARN it, before turning to gear.

 

[TEST APE]

Not to come off wrong but..........Most people start doing gear with the wrong goals in mind..I myself being 30 never touched any shit until I could not reach my goals.....At age 24 and around 210 my body did not respond the same why when i was say 17 18 19.I grew like a weed then and nothing seemed to hurt..I have not or due not compete. But I do train in the Martial Arts and getting stronger helped me reach my goals..So for all the young guys using I say one thing Just think how you would look if you where able to work you body to the fullist and then start cycling......People say steroids are a form of cheating..Not true they just bring you body to the next level One in which in unobtainable naturelly.............So good luck and play it smart...Dont fuck up you body for pussy now,Because no hot chick
will stick around when you liver fails,you kidneys are shot and your bald and cant get you dick up..

 

[rolfaldag]

I'm a youngin' but an endurance athlete

I'm a youngin', but I'm an endurance athlete. If you wanna go pro, you gotta be good young or miss the boat. I'm a cyclist and our governing body does banned sub. tests @ our junior national events and some randoms for those on the nats team. It's a no-brainer that a good chunk of espoir (U-23) and 17-18 y/o are doping so that they can get bloody fast and go pro(just a side note, 89% of Endurance athletes @ the OTC in Col. Springs are on Albuterol or some other inhaled steroid). Only a handfull go, it's not easy. Also, if you're not aware with the constant spanking the Euro's give us all the time,(except for the past few years in one race, the Tour) it's apparent, and I HATE to ASSUME, that these kids in europe are juicing before the age of 20. It's already an established fact that the European pro-peloton juices and it's no wonder why each pro-team has its own Rx. Most of us at this level have coaches too, and i think you all should read this

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/chain.shtml

VERY INFORMATIVE to how drugs and cycling work.

A quantifying note... I started racing when I was 12. I've lifting weights since I was 15. I weigh, as of today after having knee surgery on my left knee, 147 10%bf 5'9" Lung capacity @6.8 Litres(off the charts for my age bracket). I don't really diet until it gets hot or nats roll around. I've been the same heighth since who knows when. Anyhow, what I'm getting at is that is NOW is when the boat is pulling away from the dock. The boat being the opp. for a pro career and missing it will be, "well, I wonder if...". And for me it would be doing math all day, which i wouldn't really mind, but that can wait, but I get older, and my body can't.



CIoa,

Rolf

 

[macho21]

This is a discussion board, and I do believe different opinions should be argued in order to learn. But when you start attacking an individual personally, rather than his opinion, then that person forgot the purpose of the discussion. We are here to learn, not be toughasses. Regardless of the age of the mods, they have shown to be very knowledgeable, and that is what matters. I personally do not care how old is the one giving advice as long as its a good, educated opinion. If you do not value the mods advice, fine, but there are many of us who do.

 

[jstrong20]

If your not his father don't tell him what to do

You probably will not stunt your growth, not everybody has this negative effect, but what should worry you more is:
your legs can stop growing, BUT your upperbody keeps on growing. Get the picture? Your body, although maybe of decent lenght could be out of balance. Now who wants that?

If this guy is 17 he's old enough to make his own decision. Also 99% of 17yr. old boys are probably done growing unless you want to count the clavicle which is not done until you are 25. Anyway even if he does hurt himself its his buisness and if he wants to run 1g of test for his first cycle thats his buisness. Besides I don't know what you think is going to happen to him that will be so bad(my guess absolutley nothing because if you read anything recent you will see the sides of steroids is greatly exaggerated). Anyway if someone suggest something you think is wrong thats fine to give your veiw but I don't see a need to bash others

P.S. The idea of steroids only stunting part of your body is about as rediculous as a study I seen that said steroids is responsible for teenagers not wearing their seatbelts.

 

[Jeff_rys]

Re: If your not his father don't tell him what to do

If this guy is 17 he's old enough to make his own decision. Also 99% of 17yr. old boys are probably done growing unless you want to count the clavicle which is not done until you are 25. Anyway even if he does hurt himself its his buisness and if he wants to run 1g of test for his first cycle thats his buisness. Besides I don't know what you think is going to happen to him that will be so bad(my guess absolutley nothing because if you read anything recent you will see the sides of steroids is greatly exaggerated). Anyway if someone suggest something you think is wrong thats fine to give your veiw but I don't see a need to bash others

P.S. The idea of steroids only stunting part of your body is about as rediculous as a study I seen that said steroids is responsible for teenagers not wearing their seatbelts.

Could you elaborate and explain "where i did any bashing?".

Sure i am not his father, but so is no one on the board.
What is the point of getting advice, a third opinion, if you will not listen to it.
In my opinion this is a waste of time.

Concerning your P.S., you should do a search on the net. There are guys with stunted leg grow. Now if nobody believes me i couldn't care less.

Afterall it's "his" life, not mine.

You know the saying: "good advice is expensive".

 

[jstrong20]

you know you could be right but its just hard for me to belive at 17 someone is going to stunt their growth but I guess it could happen. It's just most of the guys I know where done growing by 16 or 17 but their were a few guys I knew that grew until they where 18 or 19. Also the only thing I bring up bashing is because it seems like if some people don't agree with others they take personal offense to it but I might of misread your post and if this is the case, sorry. I can also see where the older guys look at the 1 and 2g a/w doses as high but they need to understand alot of these guys want the ronnie coleman look and thats the only way to get it. With that said most of the younger guys could learn from the vets experiences, myself included but I still take it with a grain of salt and appreciate their advice.