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I'm interested how many times do you work on your ABS and for how long per week?
I do ABS after every workout for 10-15 minutes...but now I start to feel that my ABS really can't recover.
What do u think?
 
The key to abs is low to moderate reps(5-10) with high intensity(ie lot of resistance). The people who sit and kick out 20-50 reps of a given exercise are wasting their time and training abs for endurance NOT size and strength.
 
I do situps on a steep decline bench with a 35 lb plate, 2 sets of 15 3x a week, is that enough? I find it hard to hold the 45 lb plate...
 
I do my abs probably three times a week. I use the ball for most of my ab exercises aside from decline crunches. Far too many people overtrain their abdominals by doing crazy amounts of reps and doing them everyday. They are just like any other muscle, they need recovery time too.
 
Zyglamail said:
The key to abs is low to moderate reps(5-10) with high intensity(ie lot of resistance). The people who sit and kick out 20-50 reps of a given exercise are wasting their time and training abs for endurance NOT size and strength.

i dont understand why people want BIGGER ab muscles...

i wanna wasp waist like steve reeves or arnold or even zane.. not a ronnie coleman or paul dillett belly....
 
TheOak84 said:


i dont understand why people want BIGGER ab muscles...

i wanna wasp waist like steve reeves or arnold or even zane.. not a ronnie coleman or paul dillett belly....

why would you want bigger chest or arm muscles then ?
adding size to your abdominals
will barely move the measuring tape, if at all. they don not have the capacity to grow very large. you do need them to be very strong if you want to move any serious weight for most exercises
i dont think colemans gut is from doing too heavy ab exercises either :rolleyes:
 
i jsut dont want thick abs.. i do them 3 times a week Mon and Fri 4x15-20. 30 seconds rest.. on Wed, roman chair sit ups or incline sit ups, 4xfailure (usually12), my abs stay strong from squats and deads and standing military.

i know coleman's gut isnt from heavy abs, i just hate the guy..

i jsut hate coleman, hes not olympian material.. i think dexter jackson is. no bitch tits or roid belly.. and hes ripped as hell..
 
TheOak84 said:


i dont understand why people want BIGGER ab muscles...

i wanna wasp waist like steve reeves or arnold or even zane.. not a ronnie coleman or paul dillett belly....
High rep exercises bloat abs as much as hypertrophy. When you work abs in a fashion used to build endurance, lets say over 15 reps, then the muscle cells increase in size to hold more glucose. If you want strong abs concentrate on low reps with high tension. Another problem is most people when the work abs the exercise they choose, or at least how they do them, brings the hip flexors into play and works them much more than the abs themselves. I personally have very thick abs and I hardly work them at all, when I do its high intensity, low rep work simply to build strength, I dont need (ie want) any more ab mass, but I do want extreme ab strength.
 
I train abs about 2-3 times a week with heavy weight. Usully its 2-3 exercises for 3-4 sets at 5-15 reps. Things that i have found to work best are decline weighted situps, ghc situps, spread eagle situps, and preachers.


TheOak84 said:


i know coleman's gut isnt from heavy abs, i just hate the guy..

i jsut hate coleman, hes not olympian material.. i think dexter jackson is. no bitch tits or roid belly.. and hes ripped as hell..

you gotta give the guy some respect, juice or not. 5 weeks out from the Mr. O comp the guy is deading 800lbs for 2 reps. WHO DOES THAT....no one. He is one ginormous, well proportioned BB.
 
Agree with Zyg. I'm amazed at how so many consider abs a "special" muscle group that somehow responds to high reps where other muscles obviously don't. Train them like you would anything else. Give it a few weeks and see what happens. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
Natural_Teen said:
I train abs about 2-3 times a week with heavy weight. Usully its 2-3 exercises for 3-4 sets at 5-15 reps. Things that i have found to work best are decline weighted situps, ghc situps, spread eagle situps, and preachers.




you gotta give the guy some respect, juice or not. 5 weeks out from the Mr. O comp the guy is deading 800lbs for 2 reps. WHO DOES THAT....no one. He is one ginormous, well proportioned BB.

i give him credit.. hes proportioned, with his 40in waist
 
I train abs with weight, never more than 1x per week, same as any other bodypart, and it was worked great for me
 
Hey Natural_Teen can u explain me these exercises......ghc situps, spread eagle situps, and preachers.
Thanx a lot buddy!
 
.... he takes hormones to get him ripped.. what looks better to you : 5'10 275 - 38in waist but 22 inch arms OR 6'2 240 32in waist, 22in arms... basically, Arnold or Ron Coleman... which one looks better?
 
gotta love ab discussions. all i'm gonna say is that ever since i started hitting my abs with weight (holding on to 140lbs on decline situp) my deadlift has been a lot easier (core muscles) and i have a visible sixpack even though i'm bulking right now.

and i would MUCH rather have big, functional abs than the "pretty" anorexic-like abs the guys who do 100 reps of situps everyday think will make them look good.
 
Here is an exercise I woul like all the high reppers and even thoise who rely largely on standard ab exercises to try. Get a friend and explaine this to him and what you are trying to do.

Lay on the floor with legs bent, feet flat on floor like you would do a situp or a crunch.

Next have your partern kneel in front of your feet (not on your feet) and reach around your heels and hold them.

Now, your partners goal is to simply offer resistance while you pull your heals in toward you butt. Tell him/her to give you feed back and let you know when the tension drops and to encourage you to keep pulling the heels toward butt. Now while doing that tighten abs and press low back into floor and curl your trunk sitting up. Make sure back does not arch but stays firmly on floor and the tension is maintained pulling you heels toward your butt.

Give this a whirl and let me know how things go, this is a fun one :)
 
Its improtant to the point that: if you need cardio to get low enough body fat to see your abs, you need to do it. I personally TRY and treat them like anyother muscle and work it 1 time per week with heavy weights, unfortunetly I do them at the end of a workout and know that I am not really burning them as much as I could, so I kick it up to twice a week. Usually saxon side bends, declines, and full contact twists are my fav, there is a killer routine at t-mag.com called real abs, if anyone needs some exercise ideas.
 
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