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abs... bigger or tighter/toned?

cityhick said:
Dont do abs. Because of your size your abs should have good size to them naturally. Start the cardio and your waiist will form to them. I used to do abs 5 days a week when I was fatter and now that I am leaner have this funny looking hard beer belly type thing. Just keep the diet up they will come in

Just thinking ahead here - I did used to have an ok 6 pack, but put on 60lbs so you dont see them now. If, I did loose 20lbs from my waist, would I have spare skin? And if I did, how do you deal with that??

Assertive Guy
 
You wont have to worry about extra skin. In high school there was this wrestler that lost about 100 lbs and had "kurtis" flab(extra skin). If you loose your weight at a good pace 2-3 lbs a week. Your skin will have no problem adapting. And if you feel that you do plastic surgery would be the only ting that I know of. I am sure there are prob some ointments/lotions that maybe would help.
 
sgtslaughter said:
If you did them at a heart pounding cardio pace :)

At my gym I want to inform all the really big people I see working their asses off on the ab machine... but when they're on the cardio deck, they half ass it and get no where.

... you decide, tight muscles you can't see or loosing 4 inches on your waist, or both... diet and cardio first and formost.
^^ :) For emphasis ...
SFW - Congrats on the 30 lbs weight loss :)

Do you incorporate intervals into your cardio?

What exactly are you eating & how often?

Plateaus can easily be conquered ... with more specifics, I'm sure you will get some great suggestions to implement as you see fit :)
 
my diet kind of varies but this is about it..

~8am- oatmeal
~11am- grilled chicken salad
~4pm- tuna on wheat crackers
~6pm- i'll pick at the dinner my mom makes (veggies and meats only)
~post dinner workout til 8'ish and i never eat after that unless its a handful of nuts etc.

im 17 yrs 6'5'' 273 (from 305 mid dec.)

i kept my bench at 345 and kept my other maxes up and am now alot faster.. i just ended my HS football career and decided i had no reason to be fat anymore.. im not sure about the cardio question that was asked sorry..
 
whao, 17. 6'5 273 ur a fucking house bro. i wish i had ur size

Well i keep telling EVEYRONE asking about there abs this.

I was 240 and i am now 170lbs. i did NOT go to the GYM i did NOT work my abs. BUT my DIET was 100%.

I mean i did the usualy stuff u can do in house, like jumping rope once ina while, but i can honestly say my results are from DIET and DIET alone.

I went from FLAB to 8pack ABS at my best.
Ditch the situps and hit the treadmill and GET your DIET on key 100% and u will have abs before summer =]

use FITDAY.com to calculate your calories.
 
sfwolves78 said:
my diet kind of varies but this is about it..

~8am- oatmeal
~11am- grilled chicken salad
~4pm- tuna on wheat crackers
~6pm- i'll pick at the dinner my mom makes (veggies and meats only)
~post dinner workout til 8'ish and i never eat after that unless its a handful of nuts etc.

im 17 yrs 6'5'' 273 (from 305 mid dec.)

i kept my bench at 345 and kept my other maxes up and am now alot faster.. i just ended my HS football career and decided i had no reason to be fat anymore.. im not sure about the cardio question that was asked sorry..
Big Boy :)

~ 32 lbs, great start...

In what portions are you eating those meals listed above? 1st thought, you are NOT eating enough for someone your size ...

What EXACTLY do you do for cardio ... can you provide specifics?

30 minutes same pace On ellitpical? Bike? Stepper?
Sprints on the Treadmill? Track?



This is from my ladies on the women's forum focusing on the importance of a CLEAN diet ...

"The simplest thing to remember is that you have to EAT TO LOSE BODYFAT! Your body is a nearly perfect biochemical machine that WANTS to run efficiently. Its like fueling a Ferrari w/ high grade gasoline -- filling the tank when its empty, replacing the oil, etc, running it like it loves to be run at high speeds taking sharp corners and looking all sexy, running down all of its fuel and various maintenance items. Then replacing those items with exactly what it needs, cleanest sources available and in just the right amounts for optimized operation. BUT if you have all of that and then throw some mud in the gas tank, expect this amazing machine to run like crap. Thus you get the "plateau" you don't feel as energetic or vibrant any more, your results start to crap out and then you start to feel frustrated with all of your time in the gym because nothing seems to be working.

Its easy to fix - clean the mud out of your gas tank. Get the good quality gas. Change your oil. Basic stuff to get you started:

- Keep your processed food intake to a minimum - this includes Cheerios, ice cream, Ritz crackers, and yes, even wheat bread. Avoid "white" carbs -- i.e. white bread. Replace with good starchy carbs -- potatos, yams, brown rice (though I don't eat much of this), oatmeal (not the quick-oats but the old-fashioned oats, and not the flavored stuff that comes in packets either). Peanut butter - use Natural PB -e.g. Smuckers. The regular stuff has lots of sugars & stuff in it.

- Eat protein at every meal. Chicken, fish, steak, turkey, eggs

- Drink your weight in ounces of water (e.g. i weigh 150 lb, i drink 150 oz water) -- keeps you hydrated and your system flushed, helps to carry out the waste/ by-products of your body's daily processing functions

- Fats - make sure you get some fats -- almonds, natural PB, fish, Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) pills, flax seed oil are all options

- Eat 5-6 smaller meals - seperated by 2-3 hrs -- this is because your body can process proteins / fats & carbs from one meal wihin that time -- same as filling the tank on the Ferrrari, running it at top speed across I-75 from Miami to Ft Myers (across the FL peninsula east to west) to burn up all the fuel, and sitting for your next meal in another 2-3 hrs.

- Save your junk food for a single cheat (or call it a "reward" ) meal or day after staying clean for a week. Its good to throw some junk in your system so it is able to process it occassionally -- i.e. if u eat 100% clean all the time, eventually your body has a hard time processing junk like too much salt, dairy, too many carbs, etc. and it just isn't fun. So every 5-7 days throw in some junk. Not a lot of junk, but some junk. IT also helps you keep from going nuts on a tight diet and also gives you room to plan your socializing."
 
*Bunny* said:
~ 32 lbs, great start...

Indeed, great start bro! You are a big guy... that's a good thing, you've probably got more muscle under the fat than most people... and if your goal is to keep that muscle doing cardio may have to be limited.

WOW! I'm surprized no one caught/pointed out that you're not eating anything during or after your workout. That's when you definetly have to eat carbs when dieting!

I reccomend a DWOS, a During Workout Shake to be sipped on throughout the 60 mins (ect.) your working out. There are ratios for weight as far as protein/dextrose/maltodextrin and glutamine you should be intaking somewhere on the site... i'll look later if you can't find them.

Another thing... some of your meals are too far apart. Every 2 hours is ideal to keep the fat furnace burning (metabolism). As *BUNNY* posted ;)

Stick with it and post up results bro!
 
*Bunny* said:
Big Boy :)

~ 32 lbs, great start...

In what portions are you eating those meals listed above? 1st thought, you are NOT eating enough for someone your size ...

What EXACTLY do you do for cardio ... can you provide specifics?

30 minutes same pace On ellitpical? Bike? Stepper?
Sprints on the Treadmill? Track?



This is from my ladies on the women's forum focusing on the importance of a CLEAN diet ...

"The simplest thing to remember is that you have to EAT TO LOSE BODYFAT! Your body is a nearly perfect biochemical machine that WANTS to run efficiently. Its like fueling a Ferrari w/ high grade gasoline -- filling the tank when its empty, replacing the oil, etc, running it like it loves to be run at high speeds taking sharp corners and looking all sexy, running down all of its fuel and various maintenance items. Then replacing those items with exactly what it needs, cleanest sources available and in just the right amounts for optimized operation. BUT if you have all of that and then throw some mud in the gas tank, expect this amazing machine to run like crap. Thus you get the "plateau" you don't feel as energetic or vibrant any more, your results start to crap out and then you start to feel frustrated with all of your time in the gym because nothing seems to be working.

Its easy to fix - clean the mud out of your gas tank. Get the good quality gas. Change your oil. Basic stuff to get you started:

- Keep your processed food intake to a minimum - this includes Cheerios, ice cream, Ritz crackers, and yes, even wheat bread. Avoid "white" carbs -- i.e. white bread. Replace with good starchy carbs -- potatos, yams, brown rice (though I don't eat much of this), oatmeal (not the quick-oats but the old-fashioned oats, and not the flavored stuff that comes in packets either). Peanut butter - use Natural PB -e.g. Smuckers. The regular stuff has lots of sugars & stuff in it.

- Eat protein at every meal. Chicken, fish, steak, turkey, eggs

- Drink your weight in ounces of water (e.g. i weigh 150 lb, i drink 150 oz water) -- keeps you hydrated and your system flushed, helps to carry out the waste/ by-products of your body's daily processing functions

- Fats - make sure you get some fats -- almonds, natural PB, fish, Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) pills, flax seed oil are all options

- Eat 5-6 smaller meals - seperated by 2-3 hrs -- this is because your body can process proteins / fats & carbs from one meal wihin that time -- same as filling the tank on the Ferrrari, running it at top speed across I-75 from Miami to Ft Myers (across the FL peninsula east to west) to burn up all the fuel, and sitting for your next meal in another 2-3 hrs.

- Save your junk food for a single cheat (or call it a "reward" ) meal or day after staying clean for a week. Its good to throw some junk in your system so it is able to process it occassionally -- i.e. if u eat 100% clean all the time, eventually your body has a hard time processing junk like too much salt, dairy, too many carbs, etc. and it just isn't fun. So every 5-7 days throw in some junk. Not a lot of junk, but some junk. IT also helps you keep from going nuts on a tight diet and also gives you room to plan your socializing."
Awesome post, Bunns!

I agree - more fuel! The right amounts at the right times - and CLEAN! Track in fitday. :)
 
You know it's estimated that you'd have to do 250,000 crunches to burn a pound of fat?

So, I learned (just like everyone is saying) focus on the diet. I'm still working on it too!
 
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