A Startling Admission...

[gymtime]

That's a bit harsh.
Anyways, I still train pretty intensely. During my last couple leg workouts I've felt pretty nauseous and light headed. Happy? Plus I had to listen to 'Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" while squatting today. I thought I'd puke before I even got the bar off the rack.

Yes, I am happy. I heard the same crap in my gym this morning. I think that's more than enough punishment.

 

[Grizzly]

Trivial and wrong. Frankly I get annoyed when people correct me and don't actually know what they're talking about. Nietzsche was German. His books must therefore be translated. The German title is "Also Sprach Zarathustra." Early translators in a misguided attempt to approximate the King James Bible used archaisms not really present in the original text. I am reading the Walter Kaufmann translation which dispenses with these, and is thus titled "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" Just so you know.

Good to know you're busting ass in the gym though. I'm impressed.

Well, I would definitely disagree with the part about not knowing what I'm talking about. As a Philosophy and English double major, I've done my fair share of reading Nietzsche. While taking my class in...oh, shit what the hell was the title of that course?...in whatever it was called. The book that I had in my hands and that I had to read was entitled "Thus Spake Zarathustra." Perahps, it's simply a different version of the translation.

 

[DaCypher]

Funny how the conversation has completely changed from the original post.

 

[Blood&Iron]

Well, I would definitely disagree with the part about not knowing what I'm talking about. As a Philosophy and English double major, I've done my fair share of reading Nietzsche. While taking my class in...oh, shit what the hell was the title of that course?...in whatever it was called. The book that I had in my hands and that I had to read was entitled "Thus Spake Zarathustra." Perahps, it's simply a different version of the translation.

Okay so I was wrong insofar as you not being acquainted with the subject, but that makes your initial "correction" even more unfathomable to me. I have to add, just to make sure I am suitably argumentative, that I am against studying philosophy formally. I've always agreed with the idea that in listening to a professor lecture on philosophy whatever was high, whatever was brilliant in the original text, is reduced to the level at which the professor himself can comprehend it. But what the fuck do I know, my degree is in computer science and I can't even get my ass hired(There are extenuating circumstances.)

 

[Grizzly]

Okay so I was wrong insofar as you not being acquainted with the subject, but that makes your initial "correction" even more unfathomable to me. I have to add, just to make sure I am suitably argumentative, that I am against studying philosophy formally. I've always agreed with the idea that in listening to a professor lecture on philosophy whatever was high, whatever was brilliant in the original text, is reduced to the level at which the professor himself can comprehend it. But what the fuck do I know, my degree is in computer science and I can't even get my ass hired(There are extenuating circumstances.)

Point taken. My original "correction" was more a matter of preference in title, I guess you would call it. You're definitely being suitably argumentative, which is why I love you. I can see that being a very valid point. I know that my professor for Analytic Philosophy is certainly not very good. She's always saying "I think he's saying this" and myself and the two other people in the class are always having to help her understand the shit. On the other hand, I've had a few brilliant, just absolutely fucking BRILLIANT professors. One was Nietzsche scholar by trade. He spoke German, had lived/studied in Germany, knew everything about his life and thoughts. This guy was a fucking genius! I think it just depends upon who you have as a professor. Plus, either way, you're limited either by your professor's understanding or your own. Lose lose situation.

 

[DaCypher]

Point taken. My original "correction" was more a matter of preference in title, I guess you would call it. You're definitely being suitably argumentative, which is why I love you. I can see that being a very valid point. I know that my professor for Analytic Philosophy is certainly not very good. She's always saying "I think he's saying this" and myself and the two other people in the class are always having to help her understand the shit. On the other hand, I've had a few brilliant, just absolutely fucking BRILLIANT professors. One was Nietzsche scholar by trade. He spoke German, had lived/studied in Germany, knew everything about his life and thoughts. This guy was a fucking genius! I think it just depends upon who you have as a professor. Plus, either way, you're limited either by your professor's understanding or your own. Lose lose situation.

That pretty much sums up the whole educational system (at least from what I've experienced so far in the U.S.). At the university level it comes down to more than just the professor's understanding of the material, but also greatly upon the professor's ability to teach the information. A professor can be a genius and understand every possible aspect/detail of a particular subject, but if he/she can't explain what they know, what good is it? Just my $.02...

 

[Blood&Iron]

That pretty much sums up the whole educational system (at least from what I've experienced so far in the U.S.). At the university level it comes down to more than just the professor's understanding of the material, but also greatly upon the professor's ability to teach the information. A professor can be a genius and understand every possible aspect/detail of a particular subject, but if he/she can't explain what they know, what good is it? Just my $.02...

It also depends, more often than not, in computer courses on the professors ability to pronunciate. I think I had two native english speaker professors or TA's in my whole time at school. I remember sitting in a digital logic design course wondering why the hell the professor was talking about resistors. This isn't an electrical engineering course, I thought. Then he wrote the word on the board: register. Damn, I'm glad I'm done with that crap.

 

[DaCypher]

It also depends, more often than not, in computer courses on the professors ability to pronunciate. I think I had two native english speaker professors or TA's in my whole time at school. I remember sitting in a digital logic design course wondering why the hell the professor was talking about resistors. This isn't an electrical engineering course, I thought. Then he wrote the word on the board: register. Damn, I'm glad I'm done with that crap.

LOL. That's very true.

I took an American History course a few semesters ago that was taught by some guy from England with a very thick British accent. I got a kick out of that on the first day of class...

 

[grishaxxl]

Compliments

Wow - what a thread! Got to admire you guys for the range and the flow. My first post on this board (tho I am on some others for a bit). Appreciate the variety of angles on HIT and alternatives - must admit that I was always rather proud of myself for puking on the way home from a particularly good w/o - prob just bravado!

Odd that Nietzsche keeps popping up - there was a (considerably less sophisticated) thread on him over at the Bolex board just the other day. I'm all for the Walter Kaufmann translations , B&I - they had the authority when I was reading him, fortunately in a very small seminar with a tutor (subset of a larger class). Have my own ambivalence about academic life - loved it, but didn't want to live there.....

This board is vast - like a good library! - I'm finally taking the plunge after 15 yrs of BB - have a cycle planned and critiqued and will post it before I start later this winter.

Hope to run into you all as I have more to offer.

 

[Blood&Iron]

Re: Compliments

Wow - what a thread! Got to admire you guys for the range and the flow. My first post on this board (tho I am on some others for a bit). Appreciate the variety of angles on HIT and alternatives - must admit that I was always rather proud of myself for puking on the way home from a particularly good w/o - prob just bravado!

Odd that Nietzsche keeps popping up - there was a (considerably less sophisticated) thread on him over at the Bolex board just the other day. I'm all for the Walter Kaufmann translations , B&I - they had the authority when I was reading him, fortunately in a very small seminar with a tutor (subset of a larger class). Have my own ambivalence about academic life - loved it, but didn't want to live there.....

This board is vast - like a good library! - I'm finally taking the plunge after 15 yrs of BB - have a cycle planned and critiqued and will post it before I start later this winter.

Hope to run into you all as I have more to offer.

With 15 years of lifting behind you I'm sure you have plenty to offer in the way of personal experience. I have to note I'm always a little sad to see people going the way of anabolics--not that I really have anything against them.

Welcome aboard.