A Man or a GOD .. you decide

[heatherrae]

Both sides have entitlement issues and unrealistic expectations. My "bitching" about divorce on other threads is related to my limited sample from a not so average society. My brother-in-law has recently been taken through the ringer by a cruel, vindictive, manipulative ex-wife and his kids are suffering. There is a lot of ugliness on both sides, however I see the women doing it more.

When I used to handle divorces, I saw equal ugliness from both genders. I don't think it is even a matter of gender. There are ruthless men and ruthless women out there. There are also very beautiful women and beautiful men out there, too.

The entire point is not to approach every relationship setting out the lie and manipulate because you have come to the conclusion that all men are bad or all women are bad. Coming here and bashing women day in and day out creates an unpleasant atmosphere for the women who enjoy coming here, as well. I'm sure if you approach a relationship with the mindset toward women that has been expressed in this thread, nothing good could come of it, even if the woman had only the intention of having a nice relationship. It is just toxic and unfrutiful thinking.

 

[medical]

didn't read everthing so if this is redundant so be it. From the original post: "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy." Not long enough to prove efficacy of vasectomy.
Even without that it is so fake. Funny though.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

It is just toxic and unfrutiful thinking.

Couldnt agree with you more. And after I thought about it last night.. I realized spending time thinking about things like this doesnt fix the problem and just makes one angry.

Its still a funny story.



But.. even you HR have to admit.. men are not treated equally in divorce court.. especially in matters of child support and custody. That "inequality" fuels a lot of the resentment men have about this issue.. and untils its addressed .. it will never get better.

Women cant ask for equality only when it suits them.

 

[medical]

didn't read everthing so if this is redundant so be it. From the original post: "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy." Not long enough to prove efficacy of vasectomy.
Even without that it is so fake. Funny though.

For honesty's sake I will say I have had a vasectomy and I keep it a secret early in a relationship WHILE STATING CONTINUOUSLY THAT I WILL NEVER HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN because there are women out there that think they can change my mind and I still want to fuck them. That is as honest as I can be. It has been a few years since this situation applied but I have done it and would probably do it again if my relationship status changed.
Just being honest about my dishonesty!

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

Oh dear boy, how little you know.

thats all I know of you and seeing how you are attacking men in this thread is how I came to my answer.

sorry

 

[heatherrae]

Couldnt agree with you more. And after I thought about it last night.. I realized spending time thinking about things like this doesnt fix the problem and just makes one angry.

Its still a funny story.



But.. even you HR have to admit.. men are not treated equally in divorce court.. especially in matters of child support and custody. That "inequality" fuels a lot of the resentment men have about this issue.. and untils its addressed .. it will never get better.

Women cant ask for equality only when it suits them.

From what I have seen, and I am being 100% honest here, the assets are usually very fairly divided. Now, if it is different in other states, I can't really say.

With regard to child support/custody/visitation, it has been my experience that men usually are happy to let the children live with mom and to just visit with them. I would say about 85% of my cases, that was the case. The other 15% duke it out and it can get SO NASTY that it is disheartening. Now, maybe men do this because they wrongly assume that the woman will automatically get to be the residential parent, anyway. On the other hand, maybe they don't want to have to take care of the child every day and prefer having set visitation times, instead. In Ky, and lots of states, there used to be a presumption that children under 7 are better off with mom unless mom is unfit. This was called the "tender years doctrine", but that was found unconstitutional years ago, and now the standard is the "best interests of the child." Believe it or not, in my experience, if there is any favoritism toward giving residential custody to mom, it is usually the older, MALE judges who do it. I'm not kidding! They are just more old fashioned. Here, after a kid is about 10 or so, the judge does place some weight on where the kids says she/he wants to live so long as it is for good reasons.

With regard to child support, in almost every state, child support is primarily determined by formula and in NO STATE is there any regard whatsoever as to gender in determining the amount of child support to be paid. Most of the time, you plug in incomes of residential and non-residential parent, health insurance premiums, day care expenses, and viola, a presumptive payment is determined.

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

From what I have seen, and I am being 100% honest here, the assets are usually very fairly divided. Now, if it is different in other states, I can't really say.

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California laws are much different classes with splitting. I am not talking about anything regarding community property laws but how the court makes the rulings

 

[heatherrae]

For honesty's sake I will say I have had a vasectomy and I keep it a secret early in a relationship WHILE STATING CONTINUOUSLY THAT I WILL NEVER HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN because there are women out there that think they can change my mind and I still want to fuck them. That is as honest as I can be. It has been a few years since this situation applied but I have done it and would probably do it again if my relationship status changed.
Just being honest about my dishonesty!

I once had a serious boyfriend who lied about having a vasectomy. When we met we discussed future plans. I told him that one day I would like to get married and have kids. He said that he already had kids but would be willing to have more. I later found out that he had a vasectomy. He told me he lied to me because he didn't want to lose me. DUH!

And for the men on here who are going to ask, no, I never told him I was pregnant or anything crazy.

 

[heatherrae]

thats all I know of you and seeing how you are attacking men in this thread is how I came to my answer.

sorry

This is priceless! The entire thread was an opus of woman hating! You have one woman who comes on and says what bullshit it is to constantly woman hate, and you point out the woman and say she must be abused to "attack" the men! LOL. Don't you even see how ridiculous that is?

 

[Spartacus]

I can look at you and can tell if your're going to get fat