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95% of the people who diet regain their weight

Are we all forgetting the fact that the low bodyfat % necessary to be competitive is UNHEALTHY and ONLY FOR ONE DAY?

Many competitive bodybuilders, fitness competitors and figure competitors stay fairly lean year round, not unhealthy competitive lean (which is sub 12% for women) but athletic lean (more than 12% but not more than 18%). The only difference is when they are no longer competitive they give up the "extra mass" necessary to be competitive and may or may not go up a bit in bf. Healthy bf for a woman is 19 to 24% bf.
 
I see it a lot with some people back home. They'll lose 30-40 pounds and regain it all back within the next year, two years. They change their diet and run, then they think they can just stay at the point with no more work.

I would love to regain my old weight, in muscle, 12% BF at 255 would be killer on a 5'7" frame. But I highly doubt I'll ever get to that point in this life time. So I'll shoot for 210-220 in like 5-6 years.
 
gjohnson5 said:
The problem is that deits don't work. You changes need to be life changes. Exersizing (for life) needs to be added to that. If the trend continues (for life) then the weight will stay off for life. Stop those habits and yes, they will regain the weight


right...I've NEVER seen a dieter lose weight and not return to stuffing their faces.

I work at a state facility where I'm all over the campus and I see woman CONSTANTLY stuffing food into their mouths...then crying about their shitty genetics.
 
The key is moderation, education and consistency overall.

I wish I had that one pic of me taken on the beach before I had kids. You would all gasp.
 
Thats easy

"diet" by definition, is something temporary in nature
 
JavaGuru said:
Look at competitive bodybuilders on a competition diet, they ALWAYS re-gain the weight. There is a difference between a "diet" and a lifestyle. Most people assume they "diet" and everything will be okay afterwards, a lifestyle change will ensure you lose body fat and keep it off, a diet is a programmed failure....

agreed.

BIKINIMOM said:
Are we all forgetting the fact that the low bodyfat % necessary to be competitive is UNHEALTHY and ONLY FOR ONE DAY?

Many competitive bodybuilders, fitness competitors and figure competitors stay fairly lean year round, not unhealthy competitive lean (which is sub 12% for women) but athletic lean (more than 12% but not more than 18%). The only difference is when they are no longer competitive they give up the "extra mass" necessary to be competitive and may or may not go up a bit in bf. Healthy bf for a woman is 19 to 24% bf.

im not talking about that low of a bodyfat, I dont mean competition lean, I was talking about 6-8% for guys, which is like what male athletes are. You know, where they still have a good set of abs but arent ridiculously lean.

I just dont see as much of that. Most guys seem to go up to 10-14% in the off season. sometimes higher, depending on how long an offseason.

BIKINIMOM said:
The key is moderation, education and consistency overall.

I wish I had that one pic of me taken on the beach before I had kids. You would all gasp.

gasp because you were hawt? or fat?
 
healother said:
im not talking about that low of a bodyfat, I dont mean competition lean, I was talking about 6-8% for guys, which is like what male athletes are. You know, where they still have a good set of abs but arent ridiculously lean.

I just dont see as much of that. Most guys seem to go up to 10-14% in the off season. sometimes higher, depending on how long an offseason.

Fitness models (and young men with good genes that are relatively active) stay this way year round. Competitive bbr's are not very good examples of a healthy lifestyle (you read that right and it is my opinion) so the lab experiments that are their bodies should not really be taken into consideration.
 
The Shadow said:
Thats easy

"diet" by definition, is something temporary in nature

not quite true. several dictionary definitions define it as 'the type of food that people eat'. ex: "my diet consists of Mc Ds everyday"..
Granted though there is the other usage where its like, "I'm gonna go on a diet and get ripped!"
 
healother said:
not quite true. several dictionary definitions define it as 'the type of food that people eat'. ex: "my diet consists of Mc Ds everyday"..
Granted though there is the other usage where its like, "I'm gonna go on a diet and get ripped!"

LOL

That is what Shadow is saying. That most people used the "wrong" definition of the word.

One of the first things I would tell my clients (and repeat ad nauseum thereafter) is that I wanted them to remove from their memory banks the "societal default" definition of the word diet. Then I would give them this example to illustrate: "The diet of the koala bear consists solely of eucalyptus leaves." I would finally say, "In other words I was not remotely concerend with what they DIDNT eat but only concerned with what they DID EAT." I would then go on to tell them that the majority of my clients were not eating enough when they came to me. etc, etc, etc
 
BIKINIMOM said:
LOL

That is what Shadow is saying. That most people used the "wrong" definition of the word.

One of the first things I would tell my clients (and repeat ad nauseum thereafter) is that I wanted them to remove from their memory banks the "societal default" definition of the word diet. Then I would give them this example to illustrate: "The diet of the koala bear consists solely of eucalyptus leaves." I would finally say, "In other words I was not remotely concerend with what they DIDNT eat but only concerned with what they DID EAT." I would then go on to tell them that the majority of my clients were not eating enough when they came to me. etc, etc, etc

yeah, i thing there is definately a negative stigma in our society associated with the term diet. whenever i talked about 'my diet' around people, they always assocated it with losing weight!

BIKINIMOM said:
Fitness models (and young men with good genes that are relatively active) stay this way year round. Competitive bbr's are not very good examples of a healthy lifestyle (you read that right and it is my opinion) so the lab experiments that are their bodies should not really be taken into consideration.

i suppose there are a few fitness models who stay lean year round. but even they take breaks for a couple months here and there. also i am not aware of too many fitness models who've been in their profession for years straight. dont most burn out after a few years?

BIKINIMOM said:
The key is moderation, education and consistency overall.

I wish I had that one pic of me taken on the beach before I had kids. You would all gasp.

gasp because you were hawt? or fat?
 
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