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5x5 been doing it for a wile now.
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djeclipse
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BOOGER22 said:
There is no set time, stay with it for as long as you can add weight to the bar. When you can't or feel you need a rest, take a week or two to deload, decrease the volume, do easy stuff, then reset the weight's and start again.
The 5x5 is not a cookie cuter program, there is no such thing. It's designed to teach you about training, after being on it for a while, deloading when you need to, you should have learned enough about training that you will know your body and know how to make gains/ make it grow. When the intermediate stops given you gains, even after resetting etc, move on to the advanced 5 x 5 where you have different phases, PR's don't come as often as the intermediate.
I eat really good. 1.5 grams protein for every bl of lean body mass. Most of my meals are low in fat other then fats from meat,fish,peanut butter, and flax when I can.Azinine said:
I keep carbs clean and around mid range. Oatmeal,potatoes,yams,some pasta,and veggies. I do get sick of eating the same stuff all the time,so I will cheat now and again.
Most of the time my cals are dead set around 2700 every day. I am around 230lbs right now so I would think thats enough cals right?
djeclipse said:
lol...know what made me start growing again? 2+ grams per pound of bodyweight (not LBM) and moderate good fats, with relatively low carbs.
Wulfgar consumes up to 3 grams per pound of bodyweight (800 grams at 270 lbs.) at times. He'll eat about 60 grams every hour.
1.5 grams /lb is too much if you're a typical american couch potato who never sees the inside of a gym and sits behind a desk all day.
How many PL'ers and BB'ers do you know - who ACTUALLY LOOK like PL'ers and BB'ers - who eat like normal people and still look like BB'ers and PL'ers?
Would be nice though huh? To be 250 lbs. at 12% or less bodyfat and eat the normal 2000-2500 calorie diet as every other 160 lb. guy out there. That'd save me a ton of money on food!!!
djeclipse said:
no. I started doing DC training. Actually, the key for me is higher fat (and protein) intake. I made the mistake of letting something a gym buddy of mine said get into my head. He said I looked like I got bigger and I told him I changed my training and diet. Told him about high protein, moderate fat lower carbs and I gained like 10-12 lbs in 12 weeks. Then said that I hadn't gained any more since then (it had only been another 3-4 weeks at that point)...he said I needed more carbs, OMG, my body is just lacking fuel, blah blah...
So, I made the mistake of increasing my carbs, and since I don't eat fats with carbs, I consequently lowered my fat intake. Now, it's been about 4 months since I've gained anything.
I just started going back to what made me gain.So, no, not just protein, but protein is what you need to build muscle. Like I said, we (PL'ers and BB'ers) have MUCH greater caloric needs than ordinary people. I've never known any of us that can become 250+ lb. monsters on a 2000-2500 calorie normal person's diet. I suppose there are some genetic freaks out there that would grow to 250lbs. drinking water and eating bread though.
Diet is a very individualized thing. There are generalities that everyone can follow, but for dialing it in after you reach a certain level and are trying to push beyond, you gotta tailor it to the individual.
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