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25 tbsp. of dex?

Clubber Lang

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I know in PWO you're supposed to take dextrose in 2:1 dex to protein. So if I'm taking 50 g of protein I need 100 g of dextrose, right? OK the dextrose I bought from the company NOW has 4 g per serving of 1 tbsp. So to get 100 g I need 25 tbsp?

Is this right?
 
Clubber Lang said:
I know in PWO you're supposed to take dextrose in 2:1 dex to protein. So if I'm taking 50 g of protein I need 100 g of dextrose, right? OK the dextrose I bought from the company NOW has 4 g per serving of 1 tbsp. So to get 100 g I need 25 tbsp?

Is this right?

Are you sure it isn't tsp?
 
NO.

There is no such thing as a ratio for this thing and there is no relationship between the two for a PWO.

The amount of dextrose can depend on your goals - cutting or bulking - along with your weight and how hard you worked. Try to get a feel for it - I go with 30g. I think Needsize uses 50g. You could probably use a glucosameter if you wanted to get scientific about it.

Protein - this is depending on what part of the school you are into on how much you should consume each day based on your body weight and goals. I go with about 50g in the PWO - half from isolate, half from concentrate.

Where did you ever hear of there being a ratio between the two in a PWO?
 
I use 100grams when bulking, only around 50 if cutting or maintaining
 
dex is a necessity to sythesize the protein that you are feeding your body PWO!!!

I have read and heard many places that for bulking you need a 2:1 ration dex:protein.

so in term yes, if you are taking 50g protein, take 100g dex post work out. I am sure that the measurements meant tsp, not tbsp, cuz my pack of dex says the same thing!

peace
 
Oh no no no no the use of dextrose is most certainly NOT necessary to "sythesize" protein. In fact, it has been shown that the use of dextrose may not even be ideal for promoting anabolism.

"The macronutrient composition of a protein meal effects where that protein is ultimately deposited and incorporated into new proteins. This is due mainly to the effects of insulin on amino acid uptake in tissues that will either deaminate and/or retain that protein well before your muscles ever see it. Such tissues include the gastrointestinal tract (stomach, small and large intestines, and the splanchnic bed (liver), then into the periphery which include ALL organs and tissues of the body, not just muscle tissue.

It turns out the insulin causes fewer amino acids to make it past these first pass organs/tissues. Why? Because as I said, those tissues will take up a greater percentage of those amino acids and use them for their own purposes or deaminate them.

A model based on the collected tracer data demonstrates the effects of carbs on the partitioning of ingested proteins. (note the difference between fast and slow proteins as well)

Milk protein
Splanchnic proteins 18%
Peripheral proteins 34%

Sucrose and milk protein
Splanchnic proteins 35%
Peripheral proteins 26%

Sucrose and soy protein
Splanchnic proteins 37%
Peripheral proteins 19%
"

Coming from http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=13;t=23 on the HST forums.

Regardless of that, you don't need it by any means. If it does help, it's nothing to nitpick over. The major factor is still taking in excess calories to promote growth, so to worry about dextrose, well...that's stupid.
 
but if you want fast burning protein and fast burning carbs right after a work out then detrose is by far your best awnser, I am not talking about at any other time of the day, just PWO

Peace
 
TRUEsoldier said:
but if you want fast burning protein and fast burning carbs right after a work out then detrose is by far your best awnser, I am not talking about at any other time of the day, just PWO

Peace

Tom is right. I think you may be talking about fat being needed to synth protein.

And "fast burning carbs" doesn't make any sense. You mean a high GI dextrose that goes to your muscles - that is why we go with dextrose.
 
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