????? 1 WEEK & MAN BOOB'S ?????

[drols of steel]

WTF, I started (As many of you may know) Last Mon. on:
600mgs Test-E (per week)
600mgs EQ (per week)
200mgs Test-Prop. (1st day, then 100mgs EOD therafter)
Looked @ my Nips Yesterday, Already puffy as shit. Itching, and little painful knots below the Nip ???? WTF, Anyone ever heard of Gyno taking hold so friggen fast????
P.S. I just put an order for AIFM today, so it should be here by FRI. I have never used AIFM before nor have I known anyone personally that has. Will it be effective immediatly??? How long will take to take effect?? HELP !!! I Have Big Beautiful American Breastisiss!!! LOL....No, Seriously Bro's, HELP!!!

 

[jmead]

hmm im about to run a test/eq cycle myself.. dont like the sound of this.. you dont have any SERMS or AI on hand? with over 1.2 Grams of AAS?

 

[Bruce]

first of all yes prop can easily do that in a few days, second never do steroids without aromasin, aifm, or letro especially test. you should be ok but you will need some nolva to clear up the gyno most likely. i would go with something like letro if you are that prone

 

[ryan04]

Try out your AIFM, and if that doesn't work get the nuclear bomb of estrogen and gyno...letro.

 

[Ulter]

AIFM will normally handle that cycle.

 

[drols of steel]

I thought about Letro, but don't want to kill my sex drive which I have heard from good sources that it will, so Hoping that the AIFM works.

 

[SwolK]

first of all yes prop can easily do that in a few days, second never do steroids without aromasin, aifm, or letro especially test. you should be ok but you will need some nolva to clear up the gyno most likely. i would go with something like letro if you are that prone

good to see you back bro? where you been?

Drols:
AIFM should take care of it, but i would hop on some nolv too quickly

 

[Triple J]

i don't understand why u started that cycle without an anti-a. my nips (left particularly) get puffy just from taking dhea, if i'm not on an anti-a.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Who told you to use those toxic massive doses?

 

[iron_horse]

WTF, I started (As many of you may know) Last Mon. on:
600mgs Test-E (per week)
600mgs EQ (per week)
200mgs Test-Prop. (1st day, then 100mgs EOD therafter)
Looked @ my Nips Yesterday, Already puffy as shit. Itching, and little painful knots below the Nip ???? WTF, Anyone ever heard of Gyno taking hold so friggen fast????
P.S. I just put an order for AIFM today, so it should be here by FRI. I have never used AIFM before nor have I known anyone personally that has. Will it be effective immediatly??? How long will take to take effect?? HELP !!! I Have Big Beautiful American Breastisiss!!! LOL....No, Seriously Bro's, HELP!!!

Until you get the AIFM, you might try nicotine gum to keep the gyno at bay. See this AR article http://www.t-nation.com/portal_includes/articles/2006/06-079-feature.html

 

[SwolK]

Until you get the AIFM, you might try nicotine gum to keep the gyno at bay. See this AR article http://www.t-nation.com/portal_includes/articles/2006/06-079-feature.html

Never heard of that...I would like to hear some other experiance opinons on that.
Macro, Ulter...

very interesting

 

[HaZaRDouZ]

thats alot of test. im on my 4th cycle still running 500mg/Test E per week, its still working good.

 

[SwolK]

thats alot of test. im on my 4th cycle still running 500mg/Test E per week, its still working good.

amen bro.

In general, not everyone. It seems most people up their doses every cycle. Im about to run my 4 or 5 cycle and still going to run test E at 500mg for 10 week with AI and PCT.

like i said, i realize that some vets and experianced users need more over time, but im talking about guys in their 20 running a second and third cylcle. they run 500mg test, like the results so bump it up to 750mg per week on next cycle, and keep going up from there while adding other compounds.
Meanwhile, most of them would still grow fine and get desired results at 500mg of test per week. Of course training and diet are most important too.

im done rambling on. i think everyone sees my point.

 

[drols of steel]

Who told you to use those toxic massive doses?

I don't know why you would think that is such a "Massive Dose"??? This is my 5th cycle, I consider myself to be fairly knowledgable about AAS. I have been studying and reading up on AAS for at least 9 years. I am 28 Y.O, Ran my 1st cycle @ 19. 600 EQ is reasonable / 600 Test is reasonable The Prop is only 100 EOD. I know plenty of guys that are running 1 gram plus of test and stacking w/ a gram of Misc. each week.

 

[rakasha681]

WTF, I started (As many of you may know) Last Mon. on:
600mgs Test-E (per week)
600mgs EQ (per week)
200mgs Test-Prop. (1st day, then 100mgs EOD therafter)
Looked @ my Nips Yesterday, Already puffy as shit. Itching, and little painful knots below the Nip ???? WTF, Anyone ever heard of Gyno taking hold so friggen fast????
P.S. I just put an order for AIFM today, so it should be here by FRI. I have never used AIFM before nor have I known anyone personally that has. Will it be effective immediatly??? How long will take to take effect?? HELP !!! I Have Big Beautiful American Breastisiss!!! LOL....No, Seriously Bro's, HELP!!!

Having the same problem, sorta, not puffy, or itching yet and no real knots.. just a tiny bit sore to the left of my one nip. Noticed it today, i could have just bumped something and bruised it, but you can never be too safe. Just started last sunday 50mg test prop/37.5mg tren ace, ED. I have SERMS, but cant take the nolva with tren, and im also taking 25mgs proviron ED, AIFM is on the way, but should i bump the proviron up to 50mgs just to be on the safe side?

 

[drols of steel]

^^^^^^^^

 

[bbkingpin]

I wouldn't run anavar without having Nolva on hand, let alone test.

 

[bmcadoo44]

what should you run with anavar for libido and estrogen reasons?

 

[marvelous54]

Bro, you'll be fine but never start a cycle without an AI on hand. I mean even if you don't want to use it to start you need to have it just in case something like this happens.

 

[string_bean00]

From now on I shall chain smoke when I see gyno symptoms.

 

[Bruce]

good to see you back bro? where you been?

Drols:
AIFM should take care of it, but i would hop on some nolv too quickly

ahhhhh just super busy bro. i had to move and lost signifigant weight from not eating enough and missing workout days. my back is fucking shot from all the hauling and what not. but life goes on. yea i agree people do use way too high of doses and i am guilty of this. i ran var at 100mg ed and i have my eq at 800mg ew. however, i feel they are very mild and i built up to 800mg of eq. i started at 400mg ew, felt it a little, moved to 600mg felt it more, then went up to 800mg ew and it was a huge difference. i have no sides from it so it doesn't worry me. var at 100mg ed was cramping me up like a mofo and i will not do that again unless i am getting in 3 gallons of water a day and that is just a bitch. as far as test i know carth has only run 400mg ew of test and he is built unbelievably, a lot of guys stay at 250mg-500mg of test ew and do great. i would never go over 500mg ew with something as strong as test, eq is different. also i cannot prove it cause i'm not a scientist but i truly believe that my metabolism has a direct effect on needing higher doses of aas.


drols let this be a lesson man, gyno surgery is very expensive and you have to lie to the doc saying its from puberty to have insurance pay for it. keep a good anti e and nolva on hand at all times, like bbk said even on fucking var. its just not worth it. would you get in a boat without a life jacket. i wouldn't

 

[ortiz34]

9 years of research, 1400gms worth of gear and no anti-e. Either your really a meathead, or I call bullshit.