1 full week no sides, safe dose?

[ariel]

Hey,

To anyone that read about my uncertain test injection. It has been about a week and the only things I have experianced are as follows.

Breakouts on my chest, a whole 3 pimples...But i never breakout there.

2 breakouts on my thighs..

regulated blood sugar...No crashes...Feel strong, aggressive, and can say I am more sure of myself and of my decisions. I don't know if it is way too soon to tellm, but I have been eating whole wheat bread everyday have my period and have NO BLOAT AT ALL. Before my script test as well as this gear dose, bread in any amount would hole up in my stomach and it seemed like I retained it forever...With the same amount of water intake.

I know test is suppose to bloat you, but I have been eating lean and clean(not precontest, but lean with even a burger and bread) and have a flatter tummy than I have had even on precontest diet last year.

I had in my mind to dose again in another week going a full 14 days between dosages of the T400. Because of the scare on this board, and the reccomendations to not stack all the differnt types of test together I am considering dosing with some EQ. Since I have had no problems this week, I will wait a least 12 days before another dose...Should I just go with the T400 again, since no sides came on this week, or should I back off and go with a single test like EQ? Because of my job I can't use prop, the constant injections hurt on a bare stage...It is very painful...I can take it just fine during the day, but direct pressure over and over and over on a hard surface not too good.

I had my dosage explained to me...Let's see...
T400 has 400mg of test(different types) in a full cc.
I took about 1/5 of a slin syringe. By the 3 on IU dosing side of the syringe. So about 35mg.
I did not know that differnt types had different amounts. Like EQ has 200mg(at least the type I say) in a full cc so the amount to inject is differnt. Silly me, but now I got it, and I can say my trainer was confident simply because he knew what he was doing.

OK, all imput wanted and respected.
ariel

 

[Realgains]

You mentioned "a single test like EQ" EQ is not testosterone... it is Boldenone which is an anabolic steroid commonly used for race horses but also used by both human sexes. It is less androgenic than testosterone. For your needs I would not recommend EQ as it will do nothing to kick start your testosterone replacement therapy.

Go ahead and continue with the t-400 that you have and do 35 per week and not every 14 days. Do that for one or two more injections and then stick with the low dose gel. If you want to continue to use test for bodybuilding reasons you'll have to continue for 8-10 weeks or so.

BTW each mg of T-400 contains 25mg of test prop, 187 of test cyp, 188 of test enanthate. Remember now that some of this is the weight of the ester moleules so you are not getting 35 mg of pure test per your dose.

This product has a lot of alcohol(BA) in it and many report painful injections. You can lessen the pain , if it is an issue with the low volume you are using , by mixing in some sterile wessan soybean oil. Put some in an old vial or a small jar and boil it in a water bath for 15 minutes. The oil is likely sterile right out of the container but boil it just the same just to be sure.

I still think you should be using prop so you can bail out quickly if needed. I good prop like "Spectro" for example, really doesn't hurt and besides you are injecting such a small amount at one time.

Best of luck and keep us posted

 

[ariel]

Realgains,

Well, funny that you mentioned the EQ as I decided to take my next injection with it prior to reading your post a few days ago.

I have a bottle of EQ and one of TEST 250, with the long acting esters I told you about. I know the longer acting ones are good for test production problems(what docs use so fewer office vistits and injections), and see that some sides could/would may be hard to control when the half life is so long(read your posts and did mucho research on half lives)

I took a injection of the EQ 200 (30mg). I am pretty sure this week, the VERY oily skin(like a thick sheen every 2 hours) and the oily, but HEALTHY looking hair and the few BIG pimples on my back and neck, was more due to the T400 dose I took about 15 days ago...From my understanding EQ takes a time to get into the system, but it stays for a VERY long time as well, one of the longer acting esters out there I believe.

Because I am being VERY cautious about the levels of androgens in my body, I am tempted to dose only every 14 days. The great feeling of well being and CONSTANT need for sex has tapered a bit, but I am still strong, and stamina is up! I also think, not sure could be in my head, but I was kinda hard the first week on the test, but feel a bit more watery the past 2 days. Like puffy hands and eyes, but diet about the same, better actually then the first week on the the test.

Because of all the research I have done on the test replancment creams, and the overall thought that they do not absorb too well, in the back of my mind0 I am turning over the thought of running VERY LOW doses for long periods. I also know of a doctor in CA that actually prescribes bodybuilding levels of hormones(just incase my source runs dry, which it will since I am moving in the next year)....

I will try and get some androgel as opposed to the creams in the long run, as I dosed for 3 weeks or so and did not see much if any of a differnce with the cream. Problem is now I am sure my T levels are going to be high on the tests the doc will run, if I ask for shots or androgel, so I am tempted to run my mini cycle of 25mgs a week and skip the office visit I know my doc is not going to be to happy, me taking vet roids and all.

I had no "steroid fever" with the eq, but I took such a small dose, and actually do not feel a thing. No extra hunger, or increase in strenght or desire, although like I said, I know it is going to take a bit to get into the system.

You think running my test cream dose with this low dose eq is good or bad?

So this is my 2 week update, and all is well....

ariel
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[Temple]

You were using T400 but are going to switch to T250, is this correct? By only inj every 14 days considering the half life I think you will find that it puts you on a hormonal roller coaster. What you are using should be dosed every 7 days. If you plan to use inj long term I really don't see a need for you to continue with the cream or add the gel.
Adding EQ at this point IMO is just asking for problems. If you start seeing sides you won't know if it is the Test or the EQ and it will make adjusting dosages very difficult. The EQ really isn't going to do anything for you since what you are looking for is test levels that are closer to normal. A good rule is don't stack until you know what each drug does to you individually.

 

[ariel]

Temple,

No, I was not going to use the 250. Just have it. I don't intend on stacking although I am tempted. I know that it is a no no for a newbie like me, and you are right, how will I know what is what.

I know I read about stacking things like test with weaker androgens in order to bring the side effects down a bit. Would eq not help in the strength department and a VERY small amount of test say, 15-20mg a week reduce the risk? So, although I don't want to stack, I also want the well being that test will proivde with the least amount of androgenic activity. I am looking long term now. So,

EQ at 15-20mg WITH, Test 250 at 20mg. Or just my test cream with small doses of EQ for the TRAINING and recovery effect, not a mass cycle.

I am just worried about using the test 250 or the other mixed tests(I can't seem to get just ONE KIND out here) because of the VERY long acting esters. Somehting like 16.5 day half lifes for my 250. I suppose if using 30mg every 7 days it may not build up in the system. Although I wonder if the 30-50mg a week is considered a small dose as well, and that even after say 4 weeks by playing it extra safe I should be OK.

I won't lie, my week on the TEST 400 was one of the best weeks in all most all aspects in a very long time. Sex drive, clear thinking, zest for life. Even when I got upset, I did'nt start tearing up, like I normally do...This week, no training effect, but I still feel good. I can recover between training sessions, and can do cardio as well..Somthing I had no stamina for this past year. I know this stuff can become addictive, and that is why I don't want the higher levles right now, a basline is what I am looking for, and am thinking about using low dose stuff, either prescirbed or b market for a long time..Heck I am sure the test cream is a lifetime thing, so why not use the stuff at a little bit higher of a level since I do consider myself an athlete and would like a HIGH NORMAL of a bit above normal levels of test. Doc won't go for it, so I guess I can do it myself.

Sorry for the ramble.

Temple, you have been a great help, and a true voice of reason for me. Thanks

ariel