Intermittent fasting and steroid use?

[Mitchvee]

What I'm unsure about is do you get the most out of your orals if say I'm taking 20mg of my 40mg dose in the morning while fasted and 20mg in the evening during my eating window? Should I take them all during my eating window or not fast at all?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Fasting is senseless.

 

[ChalkItUpBrah]

From what I understand (based on the research I've done on this topic), Intermittent Fasting is useful because it plays on the natural up and down swing of your body's endocrine system by manipulating calorie intake at specific time intervals to allow optimal peak testosterone and GH levels and maximizing insulin response.

If your natty, it would be a good tool to use. I've used it with tremendous success.

But if you're on cycle, its damn near pointless. Your test levels aren't fluctuating much, allowing estrogen rebound. Also, the GH to Insulin ratio wont make any significant impact on gains given you are dosing synth. test at (give or take) +400% of natural production.

If your body is in a constant state of hyper-anabolism then take advantage of it.

 

[RickRock13]

Fasting is senseless.

^This post is senseless

 

[RickRock13]

Remember that everything that works off cycle, works on cycle...so the benefits of IF can be further enhanced by utilizing your insulin and leptin levels. Its especially useful for recomp and cutting and I've proved it with many cycles.

As for your orals, its best to take them during your feeding window for bioavailability and digestive reasons. Stomach acids can break down orals making them less effective without food (especially fats) to protect them. Ideally half your dose with your fast breaker and the other half eight hours later with your last meal. That's what I do and it works very well

 

[RickRock13]

From what I understand (based on the research I've done on this topic), Intermittent Fasting is useful because it plays on the natural up and down swing of your body's endocrine system by manipulating calorie intake at specific time intervals to allow optimal peak testosterone and GH levels and maximizing insulin response.

If your natty, it would be a good tool to use. I've used it with tremendous success.

But if you're on cycle, its damn near pointless. Your test levels aren't fluctuating much, allowing estrogen rebound. Also, the GH to Insulin ratio wont make any significant impact on gains given you are dosing synth. test at (give or take) +400% of natural production.

If your body is in a constant state of hyper-anabolism then take advantage of it.

This is partially true if adding mass is your only goal. However if cutting or recomp is your goal, the fat loss benefits of fasting are further enhanced on cycle. Also, at the end of the day it comes down to total cals, not timing, that determines mass gain. You can gain 20 lbs on IF with the right Cal's, if that is your goal

 

[Mitchvee]

Cheers Rick, yeah it's for cutting. Will dose my orals better tomorrow.

 

[Nelson Montana]

^This post is senseless

You're wrong bro. Tell me one advantage of fasting.

 

[notjake11]

You're wrong bro. Tell me one advantage of fasting.

1. Higher energy level throughout the day
2. Easier to stay at or below my calorie limit for day
3. Stronger and faster in my workouts (lifting and running respectively)

 

[Nelson Montana]

1. Higher energy level throughout the day
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WRONG. Energy comes form calories. Being in a starvation state can release cortisol and adrenaline and THAT can be confused with "energy."


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2. Easier to stay at or below my calorie limit for day.


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And into a catabolic state. You don;t need to fast to lower calories.

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3. Stronger and faster in my workouts (lifting and running respectively)

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Placebo. There's no way being in a fasted state (for more than 12 hours) produces more strength. That's basic biology.

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