Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Will taking a liver protector (e.g. Liv 52, Liver Juice, or Milk Thistle) at the same time as an oral interfere with the oral? Do I need to space out the liver protector? I figured that taking the liver protector at the same time as the oral would be more proactive in minimizing liver damage since it's being processed together with the methyl orals, but would doing so somehow interfere with the body making the most of the orals itself?
Liver protectors at the same time as orals, or no?
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Ripp42
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I dont see how. But I would recomend N2Guard awsome stuff!
Well here's something I found online regarding milk thistle in general:
So I was thinking the milk thistle may interfere with orals if taken at the same time since it's broken down from the same liver enzymes, right?
So I was thinking the milk thistle may interfere with orals if taken at the same time since it's broken down from the same liver enzymes, right?
gymjunkie09
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Just grab some n2guard and take it with your oral dose and spend some more time worrying about your diet and training lol....your overthinking a bit on this one
Liver protectants should always be used when running cycles. Check out Syntergine by Synthetek:
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Needto N2GUARD during. Protein Factory POST CYCLE afterward. AddingLIv 52 is good too. It's sold at Vitamin Shoppe as "LIver Guard."
Those are the best.
Those are the best.
I'm currently taking Liver Guard. Says 1 cap serving size, but I take 2 a day.
graciekiller
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I always wondered about this too. Ideally, when is the best time to take liver pills? And from what I gather, doesnt matter if you take it with other orals or not?
I'm just not gonna take it at the same time as my orals, probably just give it a couple hours a part just in case.
Correction: The commercial version of Liv52 is called "Liver Care."
Backtobasicks
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I take liv-52 like a multi these days, protect the liver not only on cycle but off cycle too! especially if you hit the drink a bit in your younger years
I just grabbed 500 liv52 pills and started em... Red like skittles? Made me laugh so much.
gymjunkie09
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lol thinking is good you should try it some time
Thank you captain obvious, but if you read my post I said OVERTHINKING lol....there is a difference
and this coming from the person who thinks its a good idea to take the stuff that protects your liver after the toxic stuff has already been filtered though it lmao
Captain obvious? Says the guy telling me that I should focus on my diet and training, lol.
Bro, I asked a legitimate question. I've read lots of discussions here on EF with similar vein of thinking e.g. "will saw palmetto interfere with aas," "How Milk thistle down regulates the androgen receptors," etc. You might not care for these kinds of questions, but a lot of others might, so please respect that.
and this coming from the person who thinks its a good idea to take the stuff that protects your liver after the toxic stuff has already been filtered though it lmao
Obviously based on this last comment, you need to read up on how liver protectors actually work, but maybe that's "over thinking" for you.
That's not what I was suggesting at all -- but even then, given how liver protectors work, it will still be very beneficial and will still protect the liver.
What I was actually suggesting was to take the liver protector first and then an hour or two after take the orals. The liver protectors do have a half life of about 6+ hours, so it would still be in effect.
I had researched some more, and it's true that liver protectors will diminish the efficacy of drugs that are processed by the same liver enzymes, so the safest bet in my opinion would be to not take orals and liver protectors at exact same time but to space it a part at least an hour or two.
cooltrouble
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Bro:
FUck YES!!! you need to take a liver protector with ALLLLLLLLL orals. While on cycle not after. thats the point of it protectiing your liver as your body uses the orals to grow or get cut. SAfety FIRST, Not Stupidy.
HAve a good day
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FUck YES!!! you need to take a liver protector with ALLLLLLLLL orals. While on cycle not after. thats the point of it protectiing your liver as your body uses the orals to grow or get cut. SAfety FIRST, Not Stupidy.
HAve a good day
CT
JuiceIsMyFriend
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^^^^^^this
Ya its obviously important to protect the liver while taking orals. BUT I SWEAR reading an old post by Need2 saying something about this. How you shouldnt take the milk thistle WITH your oral, meaning the same time. Maybe take it a few hours before you plan on taking your oral. Or maybe the post I read was about androgen receptor down regulation due to milk thistle like a previous poster stated, not sure. SEARCH BUTTON HERE I COME........
Yeah bro, I agree with you that we need to take a liver protector while on cycle, maybe you misunderstood my posts?
gymjunkie09
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there was a thread on this...I just put on 18lbs with 50mg anadrol in 4 weeks and I took forged live support which has milk thistle in it with my daily dose. Although there may be some truth to this the difference has to be minuscule. Maybe it could mean an extra pound or two but I'd just rather take my n2guard with my dose of whatever oral for safety reasons and the fact that i'm already popping pills all day and injecting at least twice a week on top of preparing meals and taking otc supps, it just seems anal to me lol.
Ranger11B
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not to raise the dead, but even I questioned this. The main question being how should you split the dosing with somthing like n2guard. With n2 there is , in most cases, more pills from it than the actual aas your taking, 7 pills ed. And the secondary question im seeing is will n2guard have any limits on the effectiveness of the aas if taken at the same time.
I know what you mean. I've heard the same thing bro. I take my liver protection 4 hours after my first oral dosage and my second oral dosage 8 hours later
gymjunkie09
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This ^^^^ is what I've been sayin throughout this whole thread lol
Ranger11B
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I think the point is being missed, hell ive been one of the unoffical spokes people for n2 and theres not a post ive made without the suggestion of using it. The point of asking will it hender the effects of your aas WHILE TAKING IT AT THE SAME TIME was to see if it was best to take before the aas, say an hour or two prior. Again we have 7 pills to take compared to the 2-4 (typically) of oral aas so whats the best way to dose with both products doing their best job. In no way was a saying F the liver for my 60.00 bottle of beast that would be dumb. There are sooo many different ways you could dose this with there being 7 pills. Which is best for you, your body, and your results..
This ^^^^ is what I've been sayin throughout this whole thread lol
Ofcourse take liver protectors, I think some people are misunderstanding this thread. It's not "should we take liver protectors" but rather the timing of it. The point was whether or not taking liver protectors AT THE SAME TIME as orals may interfere with orals and from what I researched afterwards this seems very likely. Keep in mind too that liver protectors, at least milk thistle, has a 6 hour half life, so perhaps letting the body process the liver protector first and then taking the oral an hour or two later would be ideal, also in regards to half life it also seems ideal to take the liver protector at least 2-3x a day (again, not at the same time as any orals).
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JuiceIsMyFriend
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I split mine up 3 with first meal 3 with second and 1 later with dinner. Also take 2 hcgenerate with every meal and 1 beast with 3 meals a day. And then 4 nitrix pills on empty stomach 3 times a day. That n2guard really cuts down on my oral intake with all the stuff it covers. But taking all those together at same time hasn't effected the beast. Still works amazing in the gym
JuiceIsMyFriend
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My bottle says take 7 pills a day if that's what your asking. Kinda confused
JuiceIsMyFriend
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Hmmm we should look into this. Mine says 7 pills a day and their yellow capsules. Also says manufactured exclusively for Need To Build Muscle below that.
Mine says 7 a day!!
No. I would highly recommend running liver protectors the entire time you take orals and a few weeks after.
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JuiceIsMyFriend
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Radar let me know what you find out on the n2guard doses. Or if they have two different kinds of bottles like beast had
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