Women & Steriods cycles

[Sassy69]

I never heard of a woman taking any more then 2 iu of gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - fat burning effects kick in on as little as .5 iu per day.

Also from persoal experience I would never recommed Primobolan - methenolone - to another woman it makes you sheed hair like a dog.

The accumulation of DHT will cause that w/ most anything stronger than var or winny. You can reduce the amount by using shampoos such as Nizoral (1% available in most stores by the dandruff shampoo or 2% online)

Also gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - really won't "grow muscle" by itself. Need an anabolic androgenic steroids to make that difference.

 

[surfer girl]

I never heard of a woman taking any more then 2 iu of gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - fat burning effects kick in on as little as .5 iu per day.

Also from persoal experience I would never recommed Primobolan - methenolone - to another woman it makes you sheed hair like a dog.

Ok well thanks for that i probably will leave this one then.

 

[Tatyana]

LOL





What are you current stats??


167cm tall 59 kg's 15% bodyfat.
DO anyof you knwo anyone PERSONALLY who has suffered neg side effects from gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - ????

Hey hun,

Women can be in comp condition at around 10-12% bodyfat, especially for figure, so that is only 3-5 % bodyfat which may only be around 6-10 lbs which is possible to lose in 8 weeks with a comp diet, training and cardio.

I have also heard that women not only hoard fat, we hoard muscle, so as long as you are training and eating enough protein, you don't have to worry about losing muscle.


You sound like you are quite lean already, I wouldn't worry too much.

Is it your first comp? Which federation?

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[Daisy_Girl]

Here are my (late) thoughts.

As previously said, more does not mean better results. More simply means a better chance for sides. You have a short time to prepare - the answer is not load up on drugs/steroids to achieve better results in a shorter timeframe. The answer would be: 1) pick a later show and prepare correctly, or 2) keep going with what you are doing at see what happens. Like Tat said, in 8 weeks, if you are 15% BF, you would likely be able to get down to 10-12% naturally (or with just V.ar) assuming diet and training are spot on.

Under your reasoning, why not up the V.ar dose to about 50mg? If you are thinking more=better results? Why not max out the dose of P.rimo? Why not? Because it is STUPID. MORE DOES NOT MEAN BETTER RESULTS. With ANYTHING! If I train for 16 hours a day - will I lean out faster? NO. If i take 3x the fatburner, will I lose more fat? NO. On and on and on .....

You seem to know SOMETHING about general use, but are being stubborn about asking for advice then poo-poo'ing the advice you get. Nobody is telling you not to try a stack, or to stay natural .... but what they ARE doing is trying to get you to your goals SAFELY and SMARTLY (yes, I know this is not a word! ). Just because you have the $$ doesn't mean use it all in one sitting. Use the fact that you "can afford it" to your LONG TERM advantage ..... for furture stacks, future goals. Go basic on the supps - you don't have to get fancy or blow the roof off with doses to get results. Eat smart, train smart and supplement smart - and you will get there. You only get ONE BODY, and a lifetime to reach your goals.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

You only get ONE BODY, and a lifetime to reach your goals.

That is going in my sig

 

[florencia]

167cm tall 59 kg's 15% bodyfat.

Can you post pics? I am about the same weught and height...MUCH OLDER TOO

 

[surfer girl]

Can you post pics? I am about the same weught and height...MUCH OLDER TOO

Thanks for all your replys I guess the question i am trying to ask is about doeses to take rather than wether or not to take it but don't get me wrong, I have taken all said into consideration...

Ok...I am 7 weeks out now, I am not currently taking anything. I thoguht I could start with 5mg Anavar - oxandrolone - for the 1st week then up to 10mg for the remaining 6 weeks, 2IU growth per day and 50mcgs T3 broken into 2 (25mcg's inthe morning & 25 at night) to assist with those stubbon areas that the fat doesn't want to shift.
my diet is clean, I have been having some carbs for lunch, but will decrease this in the coming weeks, cardio 45 mins in the evenings and training 4-5 times a week??
Here is a current picture let me know your thoughts.
Keep in mind the cycle I am considering is only for the next 6 weeks.

 

[florencia]

I know what you mean by stubborn areas...I hope it works for you.
I am NO expert and not even close to one, yet I retain water with oxandrolone.
Some days I am puffier than others...Have you taken that into consideration? Like right before a show? And I felt the oxandrolone kicking in after 2.5 weeks, not before.
I hope it helps.

 

[Sassy69]

Thanks for all your replys I guess the question i am trying to ask is about doeses to take rather than wether or not to take it but don't get me wrong, I have taken all said into consideration...

Ok...I am 7 weeks out now, I am not currently taking anything. I thoguht I could start with 5mg Anavar - oxandrolone - for the 1st week then up to 10mg for the remaining 6 weeks, 2IU growth per day and 50mcgs T3 broken into 2 (25mcg's inthe morning & 25 at night) to assist with those stubbon areas that the fat doesn't want to shift.
my diet is clean, I have been having some carbs for lunch, but will decrease this in the coming weeks, cardio 45 mins in the evenings and training 4-5 times a week??
Here is a current picture let me know your thoughts.
Keep in mind the cycle I am considering is only for the next 6 weeks.

My couple comments -

- the point of starting at 5 mg var for 1.5 -2 weeks is because it takes that long to really show itself - which means you kinda want to give it the time to show how your body responds to it / its clean / its not fake / its not over dosed / its not something else and THEN up the dose - 5 mg is easy to bail out of if you have to.

- on either the var or the gh - those are good doses to run at but limited impact for only 6 weeks - but the thing you want to watch for is how your body responds to them as far as holding water - either of them - if you start to hold water you want to drop them either all together or at 10 days - 2 weeks out so you'll have time to dump the water before your show date. If you don't see that you are holdign water from either of them, ideal to stop them the week of the show.

- t3 - if you choose to run it , don't stop it cold after the show -- ramp it down over the following week.

- "problem areas" -- you're probably talking about the estrogen-pattern fat deposits we all deal w/ - hips, butt, waist - these are things that for the most part require a 1000% clean diet and even more so A LOT of cardio & conditioning to get them down because you are fighting not only against any non-optimal diet but also the natural tendency of your body to deposit fat as well as just the way your body "is" if you haven't spent a lot of time (i.e. over time, years) conditioning it to not have those problem areas. So just to set expectations for those areas - they don't change quickly or often even in 1 competition prep cycle. Even drugs won't make the total difference.

I don't know your total cals - I'd be really careful about dumping all your carbs because you need something to keep running - at least a carb up of some sort - would suggest carb cycling. And I personally would probably up your cardio towards more like 2 sessions /day at maybe 4 weeks out - you don't look like you have a lot of 'bodyfat' to lose but I think your bodyfat number is more due to less muscle than too much fat. Cardio goes a long way for shaping & tightening bunz and those "problem areas" as well as helping w/ conditioning but you also want to make sure you don't go catabolic w/ it. The var will help that.

 

[surfer girl]

My couple comments -

- the point of starting at 5 mg Anavar - oxandrolone - for 1.5 -2 weeks is because it takes that long to really show itself - which means you kinda want to give it the time to show how your body responds to it / its clean / its not fake / its not over dosed / its not something else and THEN up the dose - 5 mg is easy to bail out of if you have to.

- on either the Anavar - oxandrolone - or the gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - those are good doses to run at but limited impact for only 6 weeks - but the thing you want to watch for is how your body responds to them as far as holding water - either of them - if you start to hold water you want to drop them either all together or at 10 days - 2 weeks out so you'll have time to dump the water before your show date. If you don't see that you are holdign water from either of them, ideal to stop them the week of the show.

- t3 - if you choose to run it , don't stop it cold after the show -- ramp it down over the following week.

- "problem areas" -- you're probably talking about the estrogen-pattern fat deposits we all deal w/ - hips, butt, waist - these are things that for the most part require a 1000% clean diet and even more so A LOT of cardio & conditioning to get them down because you are fighting not only against any non-optimal diet but also the natural tendency of your body to deposit fat as well as just the way your body "is" if you haven't spent a lot of time (i.e. over time, years) conditioning it to not have those problem areas. So just to set expectations for those areas - they don't change quickly or often even in 1 competition prep cycle. Even drugs won't make the total difference.

I don't know your total cals - I'd be really careful about dumping all your carbs because you need something to keep running - at least a carb up of some sort - would suggest carb cycling. And I personally would probably up your cardio towards more like 2 sessions /day at maybe 4 weeks out - you don't look like you have a lot of 'bodyfat' to lose but I think your bodyfat number is more due to less muscle than too much fat. Cardio goes a long way for shaping & tightening bunz and those "problem areas" as well as helping w/ conditioning but you also want to make sure you don't go catabolic w/ it. The Anavar - oxandrolone - will help that.

Thanks for that, I am going to start my cycle on Sat so i will keep you updated with how it's all going and post some more pictures.