Women & Steriods cycles

[Sassy69]

I was never going to take t3 again but i had planned to take T4 to optimize the gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - , why is 4IU of GH too much i was only going to use it for the next 8 weeks at that amount?

Unless I went & did some research I can't tell you exactly what is the 'perfect' dose of gh & why you hear about guys who take 6-10iu ED, but gh, just like t3 is a hormone that you are self-medicating with. Again its not like more is better - its more like you want the optimal amount for your body at your age to bring your levels to their optimal natural levels like when you are at your prime (e.g. age 21) when your body is producing the most gh it naturally that it will ever produce.

Just anecdotally speaking most women rarely go over 2 iu ED. No point. The other issues, like what tatyana mentioned is that at higher doses you can experience carpel tunnel symptoms due to fluid retention.

My point is that you don't need to go that high and in practice women don't usually.

I might reverse the question to you - why did you choose a 4iu dose?

And out of further curiosity how did you happen to choose to use 100 mcg t3 & primo tabs?

 

[surfer girl]

Unless I went & did some research I can't tell you exactly what is the 'perfect' dose of gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - & why you hear about guys who take 6-10iu ED, but gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - , just like t3 is a hormone that you are self-medicating with. Again its not like more is better - its more like you want the optimal amount for your body at your age to bring your levels to their optimal natural levels like when you are at your prime (e.g. age 21) when your body is producing the most gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - it naturally that it will ever produce.

Just anecdotally speaking most women rarely go over 2 iu ED. No point. The other issues, like what tatyana mentioned is that at higher doses you can experience carpel tunnel symptoms due to fluid retention.

My point is that you don't need to go that high and in practice women don't usually.


I might reverse the question to you - why did you choose a 4iu dose?

And out of further curiosity how did you happen to choose to use 100 mcg t3 & Primobolan - methenolone - tabs?

I was going to use 4IU of GH because i wanted a fat burning effect in a short space of time (8weeks) and i think it's a safe and effective short term dose. I thought this would help build muscle & hold onto what i have instead of having to use large amounts of avar or the like.

I was advised to use more actually but thought i was being conservative taking this amount, as i knew someone who took double and had great results.
As for the primobolan I basicially choose to use this (which I have not yet started) by researching women & steriod use and it seamed to be a common stack that worked well for women without bad side effects.

 

[slat1]

7.5mg Anavar
primobolan tabs (not sure what is the best dose to take)
gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - 4IU devided twice daily
T4 to help sygenize the GH

Any thougths on what sort of results i could expect from a stack like this, my diet is clean and training & cardio strong & consistant.

FYI that is more juice then a few IFBB Pro womens bbers take that I am friends with.
You may want to double check you diet!

 

[surfer girl]

FYI that is more juice then a few IFBB Pro womens bbers take


FYI???
GH is what i'm taking and it is not juice, if you can afford to take more why not!

 

[The Shadow]

FYI that is more juice then a few IFBB Pro womens bbers take that I am friends with.
You may want to double check you diet!

No shit.


Some people will ask a myriad of folks until they get the ONE answer that they want to hear.

She is going to take what she wants to take.


Ultimately it is her choice, and if she chooses to ignore everyone's advice on here, then she has no one to blame but herself.


There is TONS of research online that indicates the risk verus reward aspect of women and gear - it isn't hard to find.


I said it once and I will say it again...any female who needs that much shit for a FIGURE contest would be WELL served to get diet, training and cardio in order....that is a fact.

 

[The Shadow]

FYI that is more juice then a few IFBB Pro womens bbers take


FYI???
gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - is what i'm taking and it is not juice, if you can afford to take more why not!

LOL


um.....hello??


You DID mention Anavar - oxandrolone - and Primobolan - methenolone - , yes??

LMFAO @ "if you can afford more, why not" - that is like saying why not smoke 4 times the amount of crack rock if you can afford it.


Bottom line - sides are dose dependent and you do NOT need all that shit for a figure contest.

What are you current stats??


You had a baby a few months back, right?

 

[surfer girl]

LOL





What are you current stats??


167cm tall 59 kg's 15% bodyfat.
DO anyof you knwo anyone PERSONALLY who has suffered neg side effects from GH????

 

[musclemom]

FYI that is more juice then a few IFBB Pro womens bbers take


FYI???
gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - is what i'm taking and it is not juice, if you can afford to take more why not!

That's a dangerous attitude about anything you put into your body, whether it's prohormones, prescription drugs, vitamins, food, or alcohol.

More is not always better in terms of health, benefits and especially when you take side effects into consideration.

Just keep in the back of your mind, because you haven't had unpleasant sides yet, doesn't mean you won't ... or you may have something more insidious waiting for you down the road.

 

[Sassy69]

"More is better" is one of the major misconceptions about "hormone therapy". As I mentioned above, the approach an anti-aging doc would use is to determine what are YOUR current hGH levels via IGF-1 levels. THen they would prescribe the amount of exogenous hGH to get you to what would be your optimal levels naturally produced (e.g. if you were 21 yrs old). I honestly have yet to see real science behind why people take upwards of 10 iu ED. So when you ask do you personally know anyone who has suffered sides from GH - most guys who dose at 4 iu+ will tell you they experience carpel tunnel symptoms in the near term. But just like you can run a big fat cycle that may not scar you for life but might fuck you up short term. So its not an argument about Oh I know so & so who did this and you can't give me a good example of a real documented person who suffered side effects. It has A LOT to do w/ being intelligent about using this stuff. Unless you have a full physical and blood panel & hormone levels done by a qualified doctor I doubt anyone can even bother to get into that discussion. The points we are providing have a lot more to do w/ giving you the tools to make a relatively intelligent decision. There is not much available as far as medical studies about women & steroids or women and GH. There isn't because its illegal and most doctors won't touch any of that stuff. There's barely any research available on women and the use of anti-estrogens except for post-menopausal breast cancer patients.

As I mentioned above - the general populous of users of chemical performance enhancers keep the levels of gh to 1-2 iu ED for women. I have no idea who you said recommended 4 iu and got good results - pro level competitor? Experienced competitor or someone who heard about it from someone else and did that w/ no experience of their own? No idea who you are talking about. The only people I think you might find at those levels are experienced pros who do this stuff for a living or compete several times per year. And that's not to say they aren't going to be showing the wear & tear by age 40.

If you can afford the gh, hell why not shoot up 6 or even 10 iu ED? Go for it if you want. I personally recommend no more than 1-2 iu. I don't think of any sort of competition prep as a one-shot deal in teh short term. Its all part of an on-going fitness lifestyle. Same attitude w/ the juice.

Before this whole thread goes down the toilet - you came here asking for comments on a cycle that you apparently got from someone else who runs gh at 4iu & got good results. OK fine. I dont know that person or their history or anything. I dont' know you and please don't tell me you just had a baby recently ... I'm not gonna go there about waiting for your own hormones to get back to normal much less self-medicating w/ male hormones. But I can probably guarantee that you'll get similar comments if you canvassed several other boards to what you've gotten here regarding your chosen cycle because those are the typical and anecdotal types of doses & cycles. Anything above and beyond what you've gotten here is stuff you'll probably have to experiment w/ yourself. I can't speak to the primo tabs - they've only recently come back on the market w/ all the UGs around so you don't see many people using them anyway. And any of that, again subject to basic guidance about stacking stuff you've never used before.

It is always your own personal experiment so maybe you can go for it and keep us updated how it goes.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I never heard of a woman taking any more then 2 iu of GH fat burning effects kick in on as little as .5 iu per day.

Also from persoal experience I would never recommed primo to another woman it makes you sheed hair like a dog.