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CHRISSY BLUE

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Hey help please im taking 1ml of test and deca every 3 days and have just got 100 tabs of stanozolo 5 5mg tabs, how many do i take a day?
Am i taking enought test and deca?
Im looking to put muscle on and tone up! train every day different muscle group every day drinking sci mx mass system twice a day!

Any suggests or advice would be much helpful!
 
how much is in each ml?
you have enough winny for 10 days. you should take 50mg/d either get more or dont take it. btw cycle history, age, weight, training experience? what do you have for pct
 
if your taking enough test and deca, that depends on the dose mg/ml.
and you don't have enough winny to do anything. Wait til you get more and run it at 50mg ED for atleast 6 weeks.
 
1 ml of each every 3 days! is that right im 23!
what cycle should i do with the winstrol i weight 86kg.

I was taking 2ml deca 1 ml test every 7 days for 3 months and took 3 months off and now just started this 1 last week.
 
CHRISSY BLUE said:
1 ml of each every 3 days! is that right im 23!
what cycle should i do with the winstrol i weight 86kg.

I was taking 2ml deca 1 ml test every 7 days for 3 months and took 3 months off and now just started this 1 last week.
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bro how many mg per ml?
 
ok so that would come to 500mg test and 200mg deca a week. That test dose seems right(as I'm assuming this is a first or second cycle), but I would bump the deca to 300mg a week. So instead of 1ml pin 1.5
how long are you planning on running this, and what's your pct look like?
 
good christ :rolleyes:


PUT THE NEEDLE DOWN SLOWLY AND STEP AWAY FROM THE STEROIDS!!

you need to learn before you go one step farther you are a LONG ways away from being prepared to do a cycle
 
CHRISSY BLUE said:
what does pct mean? sorry
looking to do 6 week cycle!
so with the winstrol i need to be taking 10 tabs a day for 6 weeks!
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post cycle therapy
Yes winny 50mg ED
 
bw1 said:
post cycle therapy
Yes winny 50mg ED
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I love people giving blanket advice about the dosages someone should be doing... especially giving that advice to someone that obviously does not know their body or anything about what they are doing AT ALL

50mg ED of winny is High dosing, I could NEVER run it that high... at 75mg EOD I couldnt lift my arms above my head the joint pain was so bad.

Edit- and even if he COULD tolerate that much, do you really think he bought 420 winny tabs??

It is only VERY recently that this mega dosing craze started with the availibility of powder and higher dosed products from mexico back in the day... you would never have seen 50mg of winny suggested as a beginner cycle circa 1999 or so
 
get456 said:
I love people giving blanket advice about the dosages someone should be doing... especially giving that advice to someone that obviously does not know their body or anything about what they are doing AT ALL

50mg ED of winny is High dosing, I could NEVER run it that high... at 75mg EOD I couldnt lift my arms above my head the joint pain was so bad.

Edit- and even if he COULD tolerate that much, do you really think he bought 420 winny tabs??

It is only VERY recently that this mega dosing craze started with the availibility of powder and higher dosed products from mexico back in the day... you would never have seen 50mg of winny suggested as a beginner cycle circa 1999 or so
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He can run it however he wants. 50 mg never gave me any problems and I wouldn't run winny EOD, ED to keep levels even.
 
yer winny no less than 50mgs ed ...

to the thread starter you need to do alot of reading on pct....

deca is a waste of time and money if you do it undar 10 weeks and less than 400mgs every week.......

basic cycle

test 12 weeks at 500mgs every week

deca 10 weeks 400mgs every week

pct starts two weeks after last shot of test(pct=nolva/clomid go look it up}
 
Before anyone gives this guy any more advice...

How old are you and how long have you been training?
How much do you weight and whats your bodyfat percentage?
I assume this is your first cycle. Atleast hope. Is it?

What happened to people doing research BEFORE they inject shit into their bodies?

Im getting tired of these 'i wanna get big & ripped quick' guys every fucking spring.

:rolleyes:
 
anadrol-king said:
yer winny no less than 50mgs ed ...

to the thread starter you need to do alot of reading on pct....

deca is a waste of time and money if you do it undar 10 weeks and less than 400mgs every week.......

basic cycle

test 12 weeks at 500mgs every week

deca 10 weeks 400mgs every week

pct starts two weeks after last shot of test(pct=nolva/clomid go look it up}
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You're very wrong. The test should be ran 10wks. Thats the usual baseline for Enanthate or Cypionate. Same with the Deca. Also, if this is his first cycle, 500mg/wk of test is too much.

As far as winny - everyone responds differently. Some have joint problems at 50mg/ed, some at 75mg/ed. If you're worried about your joints, start at 25mg/ed. If you feel good, take 50mg/ed. For no more than 5 wks total.

PCT starts 3-4wks after your last shot. 2 weeks isn't long enough for the esters to clear your body. Please don't give out bad advice people.

Chris
 
khemix with over 3000 posts how on earth can you say i am very wrong ???

test e kick in time weeks 6/7

deca kick in time weeks 6/7

so you say base line 10 weeks that would give 5 weeks of max blood plasma levels.

you can run both of these compounds 14/16 weeks and 10 weeks is a minimum for both of these so imo YOU ARE VERY WRONG..........
 
anadrol-king said:
khemix with over 3000 posts how on earth can you say i am very wrong ???

test e kick in time weeks 6/7

deca kick in time weeks 6/7

so you say base line 10 weeks that would give 5 weeks of max blood plasma levels.

you can run both of these compounds 14/16 weeks and 10 weeks is a minimum for both of these so imo YOU ARE VERY WRONG..........
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Lmao you're the one giving this guy advice when you know absolutely nothing about him. You dont know how old he is, his training history, nor his cycle history. So from the very begining you shouldn't be giving him advice without knowing these things. 500mg of test/wk for a first cycle is too much. Period. (I assume its his first due to his lack of knowledge)

Your absolutely right, you CAN run them for 14-16 wks. Hell, you can run them for 36! Or forever! But thats not whats optimal. For the MAJORITY of people, 10 weeks is plenty, and after those 10 wks the gains drop dramatically. I speak from personal experience on that one.

And I dunno about you bro, but I feel Test Enth hit me around week 3-4 and so do the majority of people. With that being said...one would assume it takes the same amount of time to leave your body as it does to build up in it.

The only things ive EVER heard of taking 5-6wks to hit you is EQ.

You can spout your copy and paste bullshit all you want about your plasma levels....and I'll speak from my personal experience as well as what I've learned from 6 years of other peoples personal experiences here.

:beer:

(PS. The only thing im not 100% on is the wait-time for PCT. I've always started on the 21st day after my last shot, without a problem. I'm a clomid man.)
 
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anadrol-king said:
yer winny no less than 50mgs ed ...

to the thread starter you need to do alot of reading on pct....

deca is a waste of time and money if you do it undar 10 weeks and less than 400mgs every week.......Wrong deca is fine at 300mg ew. I do it all the time. Also i know a few bros that run it only 8 weeks and they like it like that. Yes it is better at 10 weeks though.

basic cycle

test 12 weeks at 500mgs every week

deca 10 weeks 400mgs every week

pct starts two weeks after last shot of test(pct=nolva/clomid go look it up}
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Thats not a good cycle to be handing out to some one new that you know nothing about. You forgot to tell him to have letro and dostinex on hand to. You also made no mention of hcg ether.

Hmmm sound to me like you have a lot more reading to do bro. please refrain from giving any more advice. Thank you.
 
CHRISSY BLUE said:
Hey help please im taking 1ml of test and deca every 3 days and have just got 100 tabs of stanozolo 5 5mg tabs, how many do i take a day?
Am i taking enought test and deca?
Im looking to put muscle on and tone up! train every day different muscle group every day drinking sci mx mass system twice a day!

Any suggests or advice would be much helpful!
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You should have researched a ot more before you started sticking yourself bro. at least you are at the right place now bro. Welcome to the site. pm me any time for one on one advice.
 
hcg is not needed with a simple novice cycle like test/deca ....nolva/clomid will do fine..

imo hcg should only be used in advanced cycles like tren/prop or prelonged cycles 14+weeks ...anyway good luck all am off this forum......
 
anadrol-king said:
hcg is not needed with a simple novice cycle like test/deca ....nolva/clomid will do fine..

imo hcg should only be used in advanced cycles like tren/prop or prelonged cycles 14+weeks ...anyway good luck all am off this forum......
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Thank god because your advice is crap. ^^^^^^^^^ :rolleyes:
 
Now that we're done with the drama... ;)

Chrissy Blue, would you mind answering theses questions?

Age?
Height?
Weight?
Cycle History?
Training History?
Diet History?
Goals?

This will help us to find what will be most optimal for you. :).

Chris
 
Im 23, i been training for about 1 year! your right i need to learn more about what im doing thats why im asking for your advice!
I took deca 2ml= 200mg and test 1ml=250 mg once a week for three months then took three months off! no post cycle

just got more test and deca 24 ml of each and now got 420 winstrol! about 2 weeks ago and having 1ml of each every three days! is that right thing to do and havent started taking the winstrol yet! is there anything else i should be taking?

What do i need to do for post cycle?

Any help would be appreciated, or websites or books to get better knowledge!

thanks
 
You should have trainer longer before juicing, but so should 90% of us.

Are you saying that your deca is 100mg/ml?

To be honest, you didn't screw it up to bad :). Time on = Time off, with good, low dosing, for the right period of time. Theres a few things that you could have done better and you should have done pct, but all things considered, you didn't do too bad :).

What kind of test is it? I'm going to assume its enanthate or cypionate.

You need to shoot twice a week with enanthate and deca.

I'm going to assume the winny is 5mg. Take it every day. Start at 25mg/ed (every day) and keep an eye on your joints. Winny is known to give some people joint pain. If you experience no pain, try 40-50mg/ed. Do not run it more than 5 weeks total.

Since this is your second cycle, heres how I would recommend running it.
Winstrol, dose as above, 8-12wks
Deca, 300mg-400mg/wk, 1-10wks
Test, 500mg/wk, 1-12wks
Inject on Monday and Thursday.

You'll want some letrozole on hand for high estrogen or possible gyno. Get it here - www.ag-guys.com

Wheres needto with his PCT regime? I cant recall it off hand.

And bro, you're in the right place for knowledge. It just takes some time to learn it, and theres more here than you can imagine.

Chris

CHRISSY BLUE said:
Im 23, i been training for about 1 year! your right i need to learn more about what im doing thats why im asking for your advice!
I took deca 2ml= 200mg and test 1ml=250 mg once a week for three months then took three months off! no post cycle

just got more test and deca 24 ml of each and now got 420 winstrol! about 2 weeks ago and having 1ml of each every three days! is that right thing to do and havent started taking the winstrol yet! is there anything else i should be taking?

What do i need to do for post cycle?

Any help would be appreciated, or websites or books to get better knowledge!

thanks
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anadrol-king said:
hcg is not needed with a simple novice cycle like test/deca ....nolva/clomid will do fine..

imo hcg should only be used in advanced cycles like tren/prop or prelonged cycles 14+weeks ...anyway good luck all am off this forum......
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This is BS!!
 
at least he is listening and doesnt have things set in his mind. and he isnt just looking for the "YES" answer like alot of people.
 
levi8599 said:
at least he is listening and doesnt have things set in his mind. and he isnt just looking for the "YES" answer like alot of people.
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Very true.

In my opinion, I would hope that someone would do at LEAST 1-2 months worth of research before doing anything. I would have been so screwed up if I had just rushed into everything.

You need to know why you need P C T. Anyone spending any quality time on this site just reading would learn a ton.

I just hate having to hear "horror stories" about how bad someone is doing because they never did the research that should come with using A A S.
 
can you tell me what i need to do for my pct? and how to go about doing it!
and how long i need to stay off it before going back on it if i decide to!

thanks for posts
 
levi8599 said:
at least he is listening and doesnt have things set in his mind. and he isnt just looking for the "YES" answer like alot of people.
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This is EXACTLY the kind of guy we want here. He may have been stupid for not researching before, but he came to the right place and is willing to listen!

I cant ask for anything more.

Letrozole is used to lower high estrogen. High estrogen leads to gyno (bitch tits), bloating, and acne (from the bloating usually).

Did you notice any sensitivity in your nipples last cycle? Did they get puffy or anything? If so...thats most likely from your estrogen getting too high. I would have letrozole on hand. I would also run Arimidex at .5mg twice a week, throughout your cycle. This will stop the build up of estrogen before it starts.

Welcome :).

Chris

(PCT: NEEDTO! CHIME IN DAMNIT!)
 
khemix said:
This is EXACTLY the kind of guy we want here. He may have been stupid for not researching before, but he came to the right place and is willing to listen!

I cant ask for anything more.

Letrozole is used to lower high estrogen. High estrogen leads to gyno (bitch tits), bloating, and acne (from the bloating usually).

Did you notice any sensitivity in your nipples last cycle? Did they get puffy or anything? If so...thats most likely from your estrogen getting too high. I would have letrozole on hand. I would also run Arimidex at .5mg twice a week, throughout your cycle. This will stop the build up of estrogen before it starts.

Welcome :).

Chris

(PCT: NEEDTO! CHIME IN DAMNIT!)
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I don't even know whats going on in here any more. give me the low down and I will hook it up. :)
 
needtogetaas said:
I don't even know whats going on in here any more. give me the low down and I will hook it up. :)
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This is my cycle
Winstrol, above, 8-12wks 50 ed
Deca, 300mg-400mg/wk, 1-10wks
Test, 500mg/wk, 1-12wks
Injecting on Monday and Thursday

What pct should i do?
 
CHRISSY BLUE said:
This is my cycle
Winstrol, above, 8-12wks 50 ed
Deca, 300mg-400mg/wk, 1-10wks
Test, 500mg/wk, 1-12wks
Injecting on Monday and Thursday

What pct should i do?
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i would run hcg threw out the cycle 500ui's ew. Then 2 weeks after last shot use sustain alpha 5 pumps ed. :)
 
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