Wife wants to pop her cherry... need experienced replies

[new@gettinbig]

If your girl sings using IS NOT an OPTION!!!! She will not be able to sing after a cycle of test...and maybe even anavar..So your girl will have to make a big choice and decide what is more important to her. Make sure you give her ALL the facts so she can make an educated decision...this is a big deal and not something to mess w/.

Like I have said a thousand times before your girl Needs to be ON here herself researching and asking questions. It is her body not yours!!! If she is big enough to do AS, I would surely hope she can use a computer and log on to this site. There are many sides that come w/ using AS....there is really no way around it..you can control them and keep them @ a minimum...but the key is starting dosages out very low and going slow. You can always bump em up if needed.. I would not recommend test to your girl given your situation. Possibly Anavar 5-10mgs a day. But like I said before she should not even consider doing AS if she plans on singing as she is now.

 

[luv2workout]

Hey you!!! Havent talked to you in awhile..how are ya, big guy????? About the wife - I think the anavar sounds good...she should only need 5 - 10mg. though and you can keep her on longer than 50 days...I would at least go - 8wks - 3mts.....

 

[THeMaCHinE]

If your girl sings using IS NOT an OPTION!!!! She will not be able to sing after a cycle of test...and maybe even anavar..So your girl will have to make a big choice and decide what is more important to her. Make sure you give her ALL the facts so she can make an educated decision...this is a big deal and not something to mess w/.

Like I have said a thousand times before your girl Needs to be ON here herself researching and asking questions. It is her body not yours!!! If she is big enough to do AS, I would surely hope she can use a computer and log on to this site. There are many sides that come w/ using AS....there is really no way around it..you can control them and keep them @ a minimum...but the key is starting dosages out very low and going slow. You can always bump em up if needed.. I would not recommend test to your girl given your situation. Possibly Anavar 5-10mgs a day. But like I said before she should not even consider doing AS if she plans on singing as she is now.

I chose your post because I think it reflects an undercurrent of thought that may be in the back of some of your minds...

This is something she is interested in pursuing... Me, I could care less. I love my wife, and I've stuck with her through situations that many wouldn't have. I find her incredibly sexy, and historically I've always found her beautiful and desirable -- even through the ninth month of pregnancy with our second child.

Yes, it is her body, but she trusts me to look after her, as I trust her. She has asked me to look into it for her because she trusts my judgement, and because it is not convienient for her to get on herself. I would never, out of my own selfish desires -- or anything for that matter, recommend something to her that would be detrimental to her health, dreams, aspirations, etc... If she weighed 200 pounds, I would love her. It's her that I'm into, not how she looks. I probably have more misgivings about her cycling than she does.

I don't think I can make it any clearer.

Now, I have tried to get her on here before, she's simply not interested. Because she's not, and because she's interested in cycling, I'm going to get on here for her -- like I said above, I don't want her doing anything that is going to be bad for her.

After reflection on what Brick Girl said, we are definitely not interested in ** for her. And because of the sides, oxandrin is the only drug she is considering doing. I've talked with her about the voice, and she is thinking about how that might effect her.

I appreciate the help and support I have received here.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Hey you!!! Havent talked to you in awhile..how are ya, big guy????? About the wife - I think the anavar sounds good...she should only need 5 - 10mg. though and you can keep her on longer than 50 days...I would at least go - 8wks - 3mts.....

Well, hey you!! Yeah, it's been awhile... been busy living life, you know? Taking care of the kids, working, paying bills... all the normal stuff. I've started writing on the side again... If you're into sci-fi, check out the ATBG segments I've got going on over in chat... I release a new one every Mon. or Tue. I'm working with an illustrator at my work for submission to a couple of sci-fi mags, including Heavy Metal.

How are things going for you? You've been in my thoughts, and I've often wondered how things have turned out with what we talked about in e-mail... You should shoot me an EM to catch me up...

I talked to my W about my concerns with ** products tonight, she's totally in agreement with me about the quality concerns vs. female hormones... Plus, I've heard that ** might actually be out of Pakistan by way of China, so I don't want to have anything to do with it at the moment... no supporting the Taliban for me...

Anyway, drop me an EM sometime...

later

 

[ErgoGal]

My first cycle was 75mg cyclo-19-norandrodiol taken sublingually 25mg, 3x/day. I gained a lot of lean mass (I won't tell you exactly how much cuz you won't believe me - I respond exceptionally well to androgens) in 4 weeks with no noticable bf% gain (close to 10% the whole time). I lost 6#'s of water immediately after the cycle but other than that my only side was - you guessed it - voice change. Even with just a moderate dosage of a short acting prohormones converting to nandrolone, I still experienced voice change. Very subtle, but voice change all the same. If your wife's willing to go for it, I can say that the gains a female first-timer can get off of prohormones are astounding. A little goes a long way. Unfortunately I cannot tell you that opting for prohormones will eradicate the risk of sides. Now whether I'd trust the label claims of most supp companies any more than a packing list from a Chinese black market operation.....

-K

 

[da big thinker]

Don't give your wife ** stuff, that is not good. Get good quality stuff for her. Stuff you KNOW is legit and 100% what it says it is. There is no room for error for a girl. Don't play with that stuff with her, get the good stuff. Super-clen, no way, get the good stuff.

the anavar you state IS good quality...not sure about s-clen...but anavar is one hell of a product at a reasonable price...

 

[ErgoGal]

I snuck it in the bio I posted in the "Hi, My name is..." thread. I'll lay it out here a bit more methodically:

My 1st prohormone cycle:

Cyclodextrin-complexed (HPBCD) Norandrodiol (19-nor-4-androstenediol)
250mg sublingual tablets containing 25mg Nordiol each
3xdaily for a grand total of 75mg Nordiol/day

Gains:
Went from 123# and ~10% to 146# and ~10% (excluding water which brought me back down to 140#)
Gross mass gain: 23#
Net lean mass gain: 17# (I lost 6# water by the 10th day following the cycle)
Fat gain: None
Strength: Well, I'm going through my old training log cuz I don't exactly remember but it sez that my flat bench went from 50#/8 to 90#/8 and my squat went from 95#/8 to 155#/8
Intensity in gym: Increased 1000-fold. I found a new enthusiasm for the iron that I'd never had before. Maybe because I was making big strength gains every week.

Sides:
Voice: very slight voice change as evidenced by my inability to hit the the high note on the song I sing in the shower every morning. I wonder if the voice change was exacerbated by the fact that although most of the Nordiol is absorbed through the soft tissues in the mouth, the sublingual lozenges caused me to swallow a bit of the Nordiol and it would pass through my esophagus and past my vocal chords perhaps stimulating voice change via direct absorption at vocal chords/in the esophagus. Or maybe that's just absurd. I dunno.
Mood: A bit more aggressive in everyday activities like driving. Is this a gain or a negative side? Sometimes I'm not sure...
Libido: No significant effect
Skin: No zits, maybe slight oiliness on the face
Rebound: nothing major but hey it was only a 4 week light cycle

Qualifiers:
My diet went from majorly hypocaloric to slightly hypercaloric for the cycle.
I improved my training by focusing more on big compound movements rather than more pump-n-pose and girly stuff for the cycle.
My diet was pretty clean and varied throughout the cycle with a couple of cheat meals every week.
It was my first exposure to anabolics and all types of voodoo-magic happens the first time around.

That's the only prohormones-only cycle I've ever done. My next cycle after that was cyclo-nor and winny, and that was a whole other ballgame.

-K