What is that supposed to be a fucking joke? Why do you insist on posting when you don't know what you're talking about? Sorry we don't do that in karate, at least not in go ju kai (or shotokan for that matter). How about this, I'm not going to post anymore on this thread because I'm talking to a bunch of morons who think they're experts on the martial arts. Why am I even wasting my time with you?