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Who's lookin forward to seeing Hughes vs Gracie???

Djimbe said:
Wow .
Im the only one that hates that BULLSHIT stoppage ?

I mean , dont get me wrong , I WANT to be able tohate ALLOVER Gracie , I want to be able to get in DEEP Sumo Stance , Gatehr up my Loincloth and release a Steaming Pile of Poi-Flavored dung ALL OVER his ass -

But I cant . He wasnt done . Its what he DOES , he gets slapped around for 14 minutes and subs the guy in the 15th then gets dragged to the Hospital by his brothers ! Is this NEWS ? And he WAS defending himself - from the CHOKE . He thought that more Important than the ten lil punches he had hitting his gloves , so BFD ! I wanted to see him UNCONSCIOUS , or Submitted . Neither thing happened , and he was hit less than you would get hit in the first round of a Boxing match by someone who couldnt MAKE it through the frst Round of a Boxing match with a Pro .

I was thinking the same thing. Royce would've weathered the storm and waited it out, then attempt to counter the first chance he got. In this case, it would've been after Hughes eventually stopped punching and tried something else. Royce would've been a bumpy, bloody mess by then, though I'm sure.
Thing is, though, is that the UFC has become more safety-conscious and Royce and the Gracie camp must've considered this coming in. They knew damn well if Royce got into a situation like that, he would have to respond immediately, otherwise take the chance getting a fight stoppage. And that's exactly what happened.
Interesting thing is, back in the earlier days of UFC, the better fighters wouldn't have expended energy striking like that simply because it won't lead to a KO, and will contribute to them tiring themselves out quicker. And there were no judges, so there wasn't any reason to try to score points by doing that.

Bottom line is, Gracie's fight game isn't suited for today's UFC.
 
i agree that some of the fights are stopped too soon.....and yes i would have loved to have seen royce end up a bloody pulp.....but you guys are nuts to think that his ass wasn't getting ko'd! there was not any weathering that storm. royce gave up his back and was fucked....PERIOD!
 
Ruca said:
i agree that some of the fights are stopped too soon.....and yes i would have loved to have seen royce end up a bloody pulp.....but you guys are nuts to think that his ass wasn't getting ko'd! there was not any weathering that storm. royce gave up his back and was fucked....PERIOD!


Agreed. UFC has stopped many fights to soon (Arlovski vs Silvia 2 was a joke) Personally, I would have liked to seen Royce take a few more. I want fights to be decisive and clear cut which means KO or sub, but as Ruca said you are insane if you think he was going to recover from that. For Royce's sake I don't care if it was the 20th round he wasn't coming close to wining that fight. In this case its not that the number of punches was overwhelming it was that he was taking them to the back of the skull and this can be VERY dangerous. For this reason I'm sure the officials lean on the side of safety. And for those who think a no rules/no time limit fight would have been different just sub out those punches for elbows to the back of his skull and the result would have been much much worse.
 
IM sorry its HARD to change your insticts after DECADES of developing them , and Ive seen Royce himself weather worse and come out on top , all of us have . And IF he would have actually been KOED by those taps on the back of his head , well then THAT would have been fine by me . as it stands it just seems like first guy to get the other "In Danger" wins .
 
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