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White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignation!

Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

Hengst said:
The reason it baffles you, the way white people think, is because despite what the media reports, white people are on the receiving end of inter-racial violence and intimidation. White people are on the receiving end of rude behaviour, verbal abuse, intimidation all the time. You wouldn't understand because it's a white thing.
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October 4, 2005 -- Four middle-school students were arrested yesterday in what police described as a racially motivated robbery and attack — the latest in a spate of bias crimes that have inflamed a section of Brooklyn.
The youths — two 11-year-olds, a 13-year-old and a 15-year-old — are all black. They allegedly followed a 12-year-old white youth several blocks after the school they all attend was dismissed on Friday.

The four called the victim a "cracker" before beating him and stealing his cellphone on Veterans Avenue in Mill Basin, police said.....
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/54707.htm
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Now, I'd bet my life's savings that these type of incidents happen hundreds of times a day in cities through-out America. Black kids ganging up on a white kid and beating them (and always a group, never one on one). In this case it's called a hate crime, suprisingly. White people are the NUMBER ONE victim in the majority of inter-racial violent crime.
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Three people charged with a hate crime are accused of beating and robbing a 16-year-old boy because he was a “white person in a black neighborhood and appeared to be an easy target,” a Henrico County police spokesman said.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servle...TD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785297113
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Also, with the exception of really heinious crimes like the one in Jasper TX, alot of so-called hate crimes are committed by the victims themselves. Can any one say Tawana Bradley?

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How come the so called ghetto areas in ANY american city is considered a no-go zone for white people? Do you think it's because white people hate black people? NO it's because white people have learned it is UNSAFE to be white in a ghetto.

I've been meaning to respond to you , but I had to waste my time on this label called black supremacy and how I'm ignorant for calling a guy in office who post on these sites a white supremacists.

Anyway I never said that blacks don't commit hate crimes. They infact do and I'm not going to defend that or them. Hate crimes are indefensible and I will never deviate from that including when blacks commit them. Even if it was a reaction to another crime such as the central park jogger incident. I felt that was a reaction to the death of Yusif Hawkins. Doing that doesn't help Yusif hawkins or his family and just tightens racial tension as if it's already an inflammed scar on American culture
 
phew....... for a moment there, I thought you were going to say black on white hate crimes don't exist !! LOL LOL LOL I'd karma you but have to spread it around some more.

(BTW - the term white supremacist is passe, even those in the White Nationalist movement disavow that term and everything associated with it. Only the Mainstream Media and ethnic special interest groups use that term today as a tool to silence any dissent to the multicultural social engineering project, much like calling a white person a racist to discredit their argument and force the white into silence)

GJ5 - Here is a great essay on White Guilt you may be interested in reading http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19672

quote:
"To the extent that most whites think about the issue at all, they seem to imagine that acting decently is a sufficient response to being called a racist. But if past experience is any guide, such a passive and uncomplaining attitude on the part of whites, far from clearing them of the racism charge in the eyes of blacks, leaves them looking guiltier than ever. Why else—as blacks see it—would whites not defend themselves against such a damning accusation? Why else—unless whites really are racists—would they not indignantly strike back at people who are saying such terrible things about them?"
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

Hengst said:
phew....... for a moment there, I thought you were going to say black on white hate crimes don't exist !! LOL LOL LOL I'd karma you but have to spread it around some more.

(BTW - the term white supremacist is passe, even those in the White Nationalist movement disavow that term and everything associated with it. Only the Mainstream Media and ethnic special interest groups use that term today as a tool to silence any dissent to the multicultural social engineering project, much like calling a white person a racist to discredit their argument and force the white into silence)

GJ5 - Here is a great essay on White Guilt you may be interested in reading http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19672

quote:
"To the extent that most whites think about the issue at all, they seem to imagine that acting decently is a sufficient response to being called a racist. But if past experience is any guide, such a passive and uncomplaining attitude on the part of whites, far from clearing them of the racism charge in the eyes of blacks, leaves them looking guiltier than ever. Why else—as blacks see it—would whites not defend themselves against such a damning accusation? Why else—unless whites really are racists—would they not indignantly strike back at people who are saying such terrible things about them?"


This did hit home for me

Starting from the liberal assumption that any undesirable outcome for black people is the result of white racism, black leaders and spokesmen—supported, according to one poll, by 66 percent of all blacks—have charged in the most virulent terms that white indifference towards or outright hostility to blacks slowed the response to the disaster, leaving tens of thousands of poor blacks to suffer needlessly. As Rabbi Aryeh Spero writes, even as white men in helicopters were risking their lives to save black people stranded on rooftops, and even as whites were navigating their small, private boats in swirling, toxic floodwaters to rescue their black fellow citizens trapped in their houses, black leaders were crying white racism.

This was true in the 60's as white people marched along with MLK in Selma Alabama and other non violent protests. I think that the rescue people who elisted themselves in jobs to save peoples lives should be thanked with the upmost respect. Even when they were being shot at by looters in the area.

If you go back and look at my posts during this terrible tragedy , My opinion was that it was more economic (class) then race which had a negative effect on the response time of federal and federalized agencies. Now I'm not so sure if I believe that anymore because Irma Thomas , Fats Domino and Allen Touissant were also affected because they stayed. Brett Favre's family stayed and they ain't black, but were also affected

I will continue to read your link
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

gjohnson5 said:
This did hit home for me

Starting from the liberal assumption that any undesirable outcome for black people is the result of white racism, black leaders and spokesmen—supported, according to one poll, by 66 percent of all blacks—have charged in the most virulent terms that white indifference towards or outright hostility to blacks slowed the response to the disaster, leaving tens of thousands of poor blacks to suffer needlessly. As Rabbi Aryeh Spero writes, even as white men in helicopters were risking their lives to save black people stranded on rooftops, and even as whites were navigating their small, private boats in swirling, toxic floodwaters to rescue their black fellow citizens trapped in their houses, black leaders were crying white racism.

This was true in the 60's as white people marched along with MLK in Selma Alabama and other non violent protests. I think that the rescue people who elisted themselves in jobs to save peoples lives should be thanked with the upmost respect. Even when they were being shot at by looters in the area.

If you go back and look at my posts during this terrible tragedy , My opinion was that it was more economic (class) then race which had a negative effect on the response time of federal and federalized agencies. Now I'm not so sure if I believe that anymore because Irma Thomas , Fats Domino and Allen Touissant were also affected because they stayed. Brett Favre's family stayed and they ain't black, but were also affected

I will continue to read your link

I take offense to the comment 'Starting from the liberal assumption that any undesirable outcome for black people is the result of white racism'. What a load of shit. Talk about a blanket statement. I'm more liberal than just about anybody on this board and I don't believe that tripe.
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

bluepeter said:
I take offense to the comment 'Starting from the liberal assumption that any undesirable outcome for black people is the result of white racism'. What a load of shit. Talk about a blanket statement. I'm more liberal than just about anybody on this board and I don't believe that tripe.


What do you believe BluePeter ?
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

2ez said:
What do you believe BluePeter ?

A lot of black people use racism as an excuse. At the same time, there is an inherent racism prevalent in American society that makes it more difficult for a black person to succeed.
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

bluepeter said:
A lot of black people use racism as an excuse. At the same time, there is an inherent racism prevalent in American society that makes it more difficult for a black person to succeed.


Use racism as an excuse for what ?

and when you say black people are you speaking of those in a certain geographical area, economic or social class ?


question for you.....


I moved from NY to Marietta, Ga. Down in the south I witnessed a lot of protesting by skin heads and KKK. Would it be fair for all people of color to group all caucasians with these groups ?

are all people of color the same ? because it seems as if you are grouping all together.


Love you bro !
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

bluepeter said:
A lot of black people use racism as an excuse. At the same time, there is an inherent racism prevalent in American society that makes it more difficult for a black person to succeed.

No offense bor, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems kinda outta line that you make all these assumptions about a country you don't live in...sounds like you are a fed a certain diet of media that gives you these impressions.

but i forget if you have lived in america...if so, then sorry for being wrong
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

bluepeter said:
A lot of black people use racism as an excuse. At the same time, there is an inherent racism prevalent in American society that makes it more difficult for a black person to succeed.


I love him too
Simply because :
bluepeter said:
A lot of black people use racism as an excuse
You know I find this interesting. I go into just about any city in America and you'll find a convience store that is run by Indians (people from India , not native americans / tribal nation) In these store they actually sell beer catered to poor black folk (OE , St Ides , Schlitz, King Cobra)

At this point , I have to ask myself , why don't black folks have a store here in thier own neighborhood? Is there something wrong with blacks selling OE to other blacks when Indians do it all day every day in thier own neighborhoods?? In these casese I dont' see any excuses. Black folks did not network and pool resources in an attempt to sell products to thier own people... Therefore they don't own businesses in thier hoods etc. Then sell things that they know they need and buy such as Afrocentric hair care products , lotions , clothing and what not. Crime unfortunately is a good reason for this. There is a belief in the black community that police and other emergency services don't cater to black in the way they cater to whites. In this case when LA riots broke out, there was a slow response from police , national guard etc , just like in hurricane katrina.

So to reply to bluepeter, yes , black do use excuses to succeed even in thier own neighborhood. But I would say that all people use excuses not to do something... I have to say though. Driving around Memphis , TN on I-55 I've seen some hoods I was quite proud of with black folks controlling business in thier own neighbood. This is about as close to "black supremacy' as I can think of.

Since black folks to a large degree DON'T own businesses in thier own neighborhoods , what is the chances of them owning businesses in commercial areas in large towns?? There are many success stories of blacks in entrepreneur magazine and what not. These are more middle class to upper class blacks who probably have more conservative views then liberal, but their efforts need to be pointed out as a vehicle to dispel alot of the stereotypes and biases white have for blacks.

Nothing worth having comes easy and I think we (black folks) need to be reminded of that.

I'm 1/4 Cherokee and tribal nation have began to open up casinos at reservations in states where this is allowed. I think this is wonderful and a show of how people will start business to promote te causes of thier own people. In a capitalist system I don't think once can be concerned about collecting funds from people for beer / gambling , etc

In the link hengst provided some quotes from Fredrick Douglass

The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us... . I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm-eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! ... And if the negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! ... [Y]our interference is doing him positive injury. [1]

1. Frederick Douglass, "What the Black Man Wants," address delivered in Boston, Massachusetts, January 26, 1865, reprinted in 4 The Frederick Douglass Papers 59, 68 (J. Blassingame & J. McKivigan eds. 1991) (emphasis in original).

Fredrick Douglass says very bluntly, "let them fall". I've been thinking about this ever since I read the words are pretty powerful. If a man is heading towards self destruction , unless he is able to be lead to water AND to drink the water, then this maybe failing is in his destiny!

The problem with these words is that the "interference" of the USA is been applied to every country on the planet. I have long since believed that the treatment of African Americans is analagous to American Foreign policy around the world. The word manipulation comes to mind, such as the use of force in OPEC countries in the middle east , whereas the lack of concern for Africans in Rowanda...

Anyway this is long enough
 
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Gambino said:
No offense bor, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems kinda outta line that you make all these assumptions about a country you don't live in...sounds like you are a fed a certain diet of media that gives you these impressions.

but i forget if you have lived in america...if so, then sorry for being wrong

Sorry Gambino ,I'm holding you to those words

Gambino said:
No offense bor, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems kinda outta line that you make all these assumptions about a country you don't live in...sounds like you are a fed a certain diet of media that gives you these impressions.

but i forget if you have lived in america...if so, then sorry for being wrong

Could you point out the assumtions I've made so I can comment / correct on them?
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

gjohnson5 said:
whoops , u werent talking to me....


bluepeter bor, cancel the duel :)
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

2ez said:
are all people of color the same ? because it seems as if you are grouping all together.

I love when people say "xxx roup does this" and "xxx group does that".

As if all black people have a town meeting on thursdays to figure out how they're gonna act this week. :)

Generalizations are true -- but hardly "blanket" statements. And even those generalizations are based upon other external factors rarely mentioned (poverty, lack of education, oppressive governmnetal policies over decades, self-defeating culture, etc.).
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

2ez said:
Use racism as an excuse for what ?

and when you say black people are you speaking of those in a certain geographical area, economic or social class ?


question for you.....


I moved from NY to Marietta, Ga. Down in the south I witnessed a lot of protesting by skin heads and KKK. Would it be fair for all people of color to group all caucasians with these groups ?

are all people of color the same ? because it seems as if you are grouping all together.


Love you bro !

Absolutely not!

I'm simply saying that there are some black people that use racism as an excuse not to succeed. Or not to try.
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

Gambino said:
No offense bor, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems kinda outta line that you make all these assumptions about a country you don't live in...sounds like you are a fed a certain diet of media that gives you these impressions.

but i forget if you have lived in america...if so, then sorry for being wrong

I've lived there and I was shocked at what a big deal the colour of skin was. I've lived near Philly and near Chicago.
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

bluepeter said:
Absolutely not!

I'm simply saying that there are some black people that use racism as an excuse not to succeed. Or not to try.


But couldn't the same be said for caucasians....especially when they are discussing anti affirmative action issuess.


Please reply.
 
VEry interesting comment on another board:

I can post the clip if you want to read more.



1. Why don't you show me ample evidence demonstrating that "the white man" isn't still a racist? I mean, really, what else has to happen?

Again let me clarify that when I say "white man" I'm not talking about your plumber, or the dude who does your taxes, I'm talking about the powerstructure that runs this country. White people are a worldwide minority, yet they are the only ones who weild real power, and influence policies that affect ALL of us. When you look out of your window, you are looking at the world as "the white man" sees it. These are the same people in Iraq right now stealing oil and washing themselves with money while Iraqi's bathe in poverty and duck their bullets and bombs. They have polarized the entire world into two camps --Those who believe in their ideals, and those who don't...and anybody who falls into the latter category is subject to their "discipline," which usually comes in the form of death, destruction, and economic chokeholds. But no, you want me to believe that the "powers that be" view me, and anybody who looks like me as an "equal." lol, what? Why? The only reason you THINK you're on equal footing with white folks is because you're an obedient robot. You think, act, and perform just as you were programmed to do...in other words, you aren't a threat. If you ever DO pose a threat, however, that's it buddy, back to sand-nigger land you go. REAL TALK.


2. please don't preach to me about the civil rights movement...look at how fucking stupid that sounds: this is a "free" country yet black folks had to fight for "civil rights" 400 years after they were supposedly "freed" from slavery? 40 years ago me, you, the black man, the yellow man, and the red man wouldn't be able to legally SIT NEXT to a white man, and now that you can, you think we've been "accepted" and "assimilated" into white society. WHAT..THE..FUCK..ARE..YOU..ON????? We're all just dogs who have been thrown a few bones...but unlike you, I'm not willing to fetch the mans slippers as well.

Don't sit there and cite immigration statistics as proof that this is a land of bliss...people come here because like flies, they are attracted to shit...there's no difference. The west has transformed Africa and Asia from paradise into HELL, so it shouldn't surprise you that people are coming here.
Everybody will flock to babylon. It's all been written.
 
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2ez said:
But couldn't the same be said for caucasians....especially when they are discussing anti affirmative action issuess.


Please reply.


Not quite to the same degree but yes, absolutely. However, comparing a white persons experience to that of a black person is not very realistic. A person of caucasian descent does not, and never has, had to deal with the issues and roadblocks a person of colour deals with on a daily basis.
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

2ez said:
VEry interesting comment on another board:

I can post the clip if you want to read more.



1. Why don't you show me ample evidence demonstrating that "the white man" isn't still a racist? I mean, really, what else has to happen?

Again let me clarify that when I say "white man" I'm not talking about your plumber, or the dude who does your taxes, I'm talking about the powerstructure that runs this country. White people are a worldwide minority, yet they are the only ones who weild real power, and influence policies that affect ALL of us. When you look out of your window, you are looking at the world as "the white man" sees it. These are the same people in Iraq right now stealing oil and washing themselves with money while Iraqi's bathe in poverty and duck their bullets and bombs. They have polarized the entire world into two camps --Those who believe in their ideals, and those who don't...and anybody who falls into the latter category is subject to their "discipline," which usually comes in the form of death, destruction, and economic chokeholds. But no, you want me to believe that the "powers that be" view me, and anybody who looks like me as an "equal." lol, what? Why? The only reason you THINK you're on equal footing with white folks is because you're an obedient robot. You think, act, and perform just as you were programmed to do...in other words, you aren't a threat. If you ever DO pose a threat, however, that's it buddy, back to sand-nigger land you go. REAL TALK.


2. please don't preach to me about the civil rights movement...look at how fucking stupid that sounds: this is a "free" country yet black folks had to fight for "civil rights" 400 years after they were supposedly "freed" from slavery? 40 years ago me, you, the black man, the yellow man, and the red man wouldn't be able to legally SIT NEXT to a white man, and now that you can, you think we've been "accepted" and "assimilated" into white society. WHAT..THE..FUCK..ARE..YOU..ON????? We're all just dogs who have been thrown a few bones...but unlike you, I'm not willing to fetch the mans slippers as well.

Don't sit there and cite immigration statistics as proof that this is a land of bliss...people come here because like flies, they are attracted to shit...there's no difference. The west has transformed Africa and Asia from paradise into HELL, so it shouldn't surprise you that people are coming here.
Everybody will flock to babylon. It's all been written.


LOL @ saying that Asia was transformed into "hell" by the west. That automatically destroys his credibility.
 
2ez said:
VEry interesting comment on another board:

I can post the clip if you want to read more.



1. Why don't you show me ample evidence demonstrating that "the white man" isn't still a racist? I mean, really, what else has to happen?

Again let me clarify that when I say "white man" I'm not talking about your plumber, or the dude who does your taxes, I'm talking about the powerstructure that runs this country. White people are a worldwide minority, yet they are the only ones who weild real power, and influence policies that affect ALL of us. When you look out of your window, you are looking at the world as "the white man" sees it. These are the same people in Iraq right now stealing oil and washing themselves with money while Iraqi's bathe in poverty and duck their bullets and bombs. They have polarized the entire world into two camps --Those who believe in their ideals, and those who don't...and anybody who falls into the latter category is subject to their "discipline," which usually comes in the form of death, destruction, and economic chokeholds. But no, you want me to believe that the "powers that be" view me, and anybody who looks like me as an "equal." lol, what? Why? The only reason you THINK you're on equal footing with white folks is because you're an obedient robot. You think, act, and perform just as you were programmed to do...in other words, you aren't a threat. If you ever DO pose a threat, however, that's it buddy, back to sand-nigger land you go. REAL TALK.


2. please don't preach to me about the civil rights movement...look at how fucking stupid that sounds: this is a "free" country yet black folks had to fight for "civil rights" 400 years after they were supposedly "freed" from slavery? 40 years ago me, you, the black man, the yellow man, and the red man wouldn't be able to legally SIT NEXT to a white man, and now that you can, you think we've been "accepted" and "assimilated" into white society. WHAT..THE..FUCK..ARE..YOU..ON????? We're all just dogs who have been thrown a few bones...but unlike you, I'm not willing to fetch the mans slippers as well.

Don't sit there and cite immigration statistics as proof that this is a land of bliss...people come here because like flies, they are attracted to shit...there's no difference. The west has transformed Africa and Asia from paradise into HELL, so it shouldn't surprise you that people are coming here.
Everybody will flock to babylon. It's all been written.

Sounds like some real ignorant shit here my man. super duper smartass lol at the asia comment. read up on asian economic trends the last 50 yrs, hell for them has been gold paved.
point this comment in the opposite direction, change a few words around, boom automatic racist. i'm just not buying the smack you are trying to sell in this thread
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

2ez said:
VEry interesting comment on another board:

I can post the clip if you want to read more.



1. Why don't you show me ample evidence demonstrating that "the white man" isn't still a racist? I mean, really, what else has to happen?

Again let me clarify that when I say "white man" I'm not talking about your plumber, or the dude who does your taxes, I'm talking about the powerstructure that runs this country. White people are a worldwide minority, yet they are the only ones who weild real power, and influence policies that affect ALL of us. When you look out of your window, you are looking at the world as "the white man" sees it. These are the same people in Iraq right now stealing oil and washing themselves with money while Iraqi's bathe in poverty and duck their bullets and bombs. They have polarized the entire world into two camps --Those who believe in their ideals, and those who don't...and anybody who falls into the latter category is subject to their "discipline," which usually comes in the form of death, destruction, and economic chokeholds. But no, you want me to believe that the "powers that be" view me, and anybody who looks like me as an "equal." lol, what? Why? The only reason you THINK you're on equal footing with white folks is because you're an obedient robot. You think, act, and perform just as you were programmed to do...in other words, you aren't a threat. If you ever DO pose a threat, however, that's it buddy, back to sand-nigger land you go. REAL TALK.


2. please don't preach to me about the civil rights movement...look at how fucking stupid that sounds: this is a "free" country yet black folks had to fight for "civil rights" 400 years after they were supposedly "freed" from slavery? 40 years ago me, you, the black man, the yellow man, and the red man wouldn't be able to legally SIT NEXT to a white man, and now that you can, you think we've been "accepted" and "assimilated" into white society. WHAT..THE..FUCK..ARE..YOU..ON????? We're all just dogs who have been thrown a few bones...but unlike you, I'm not willing to fetch the mans slippers as well.

Don't sit there and cite immigration statistics as proof that this is a land of bliss...people come here because like flies, they are attracted to shit...there's no difference. The west has transformed Africa and Asia from paradise into HELL, so it shouldn't surprise you that people are coming here.
Everybody will flock to babylon. It's all been written.



Man you got more hard core then I did...
2ez said:
2. please don't preach to me about the civil rights movement...look at how fucking stupid that sounds: this is a "free" country yet black folks had to fight for "civil rights" 400 years after they were supposedly "freed" from slavery?

Emancipation proclamation was signed in 1865 = 140 years ago. As we all know the emancipation proclamation didn't free anything but I won't go into that.

2ez said:
Don't sit there and cite immigration statistics as proof that this is a land of bliss...people come here because like flies, they are attracted to shit...there's no difference. The west has transformed Africa and Asia from paradise into HELL, so it shouldn't surprise you that people are coming here.
Everybody will flock to babylon. It's all been written.

I used to work for a food company (as a computer guy not involved to the below) that has worldwide locations. An economist for this company has told me that they can buy or produce natural resources (corn , soy, wheat) from Africa and Asia for MUCH cheaper prices then say American Farmers can even think about producing this stuff. So the word manipulation once again comes to mind as these resources are cheaper to produce over there and ship back to the US. So these things are purchased for pennies on the dollar. So in some sense it is better for US companies to deal with overseas countries' lack of development as this will lower the costs to buy or produce resources in those places. This is total opposite to what's going on in IRAQ Afganistan where the US has overthrown the govt, wants American style capitalism / democracy in those places and is directly involved in draft of constitution where these types of govt / economy may not have a translation in that part of the world. So I partially agree with what you said but it may have been embellished a bit.

Infact this particular company was one of the first to restart doing business with Fidel Castro as I believe 2000 , 2001 The US lifted sanctions on Cuba. Once again the idea is to buy and produce products much cheaper then they can be produced here in the USA, so in the eyes of american corporations it actually advantagous for those countries to remain undeveloped
 
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75th said:
LOL @ saying that Asia was transformed into "hell" by the west. That automatically destroys his credibility.




Please explains how this destroys the writers credibility.
 
Re: White lawmaker tries to join black caucus-gets denied-NAACP asks for HIS resignat

gjohnson5 said:
Man you got more hard core then I did...


Emancipation proclamation was signed in 1865 = 140 years ago. As we all know the emancipation proclamation didn't free anything but I won't go into that.



I used to work for a food company (as a computer guy not involved to the below) that has worldwide locations. An economist for this company has told me that they can buy or produce natural resources (corn , soy, wheat) from Africa and Asia for MUCH cheaper prices then say American Farmers can even think about producing this stuff. So the word manipulation once again comes to mind as these resources are cheaper to produce over there and ship back to the US. So these things are purchased for pennies on the dollar. So in some sense it is better for US companies to deal with overseas countries' lack of development as this will lower the costs to buy or produce resources in those places. This is total opposite to what's going on in IRAQ Afganistan where the US has overthrown the govt, wants American style capitalism / democracy in those places and is directly involved in draft of constitution where these types of govt / economy may not have a translation in that part of the world. So I partially agree with what you said but it may have been embellished a bit.

Infact this particular company was one of the first to restart doing business with Fidel Castro as I believe 2000 , 2001 The US lifted sanctions on Cuba. Once again the idea is to buy and produce products much cheaper then they can be produced here in the USA, so in the eyes of american corporations it actually advantagous for those countries to remain undeveloped



Hey Mr gjohnson,

The person that wrote the paragraphs is not even black. So dude is standing on the outside looking in. I thought this was a bit interesting to hear the opinion from someone of another ethnicity.
 
Again let me clarify that when I say "white man" I'm not talking about your plumber, or the dude who does your taxes, I'm talking about the powerstructure that runs this country. White people are a worldwide minority, yet they are the only ones who weild real power, and influence policies that affect ALL of us. When you look out of your window, you are looking at the world as "the white man" sees it. These are the same people in Iraq right now stealing oil and washing themselves with money while Iraqi's bathe in poverty and duck their bullets and bombs. They have polarized the entire world into two camps --Those who believe in their ideals, and those who don't...and anybody who falls into the latter category is subject to their "discipline," which usually comes in the form of death, destruction, and economic chokeholds. But no, you want me to believe that the "powers that be" view me, and anybody who looks like me as an "equal." lol, what? Why? The only reason you THINK you're on equal footing with white folks is because you're an obedient robot. You think, act, and perform just as you were programmed to do...in other words, you aren't a threat. If you ever DO pose a threat, however, that's it buddy, back to sand-nigger land you go. REAL TALK.


LOL.. and this thread is a perfect example of why. We dont spend our lives pitying ourselves for our plight.. we just do the best we can and adapt to any given situation.. and excel.

No matter how beat down I was.. no matter how poor, I kept myself in school, I worked 3 jobs.. still payed child support till I got custody of my son and just kept trenching along.

LOL.. maybe its just a "white" thing.. but according to your post.. its worked well for my race and put us on top right?

or was it just magic?
 
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2ez said:
Please explains how this destroys the writers credibility.
Because its completely untrue. Well, that and the idea that white influence destroyed Africa as well.

Both total bullshit. Which obviously means he doesnt know what he is talking about.
 
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milo hobgoblin said:
LOL.. and this thread is a perfect example of why. We dont spend our lives pitying ourselves for our plight.. we just do the best we can and adapt to any given situation.. and excel.

No matter how beat down I was.. no matter how poor, I kept myself in school, I worked 3 jobs.. still payed child support till I got custody of my son and just kept trenching along.

LOL.. maybe its just a "white" thing.. but according to your post.. its worked well for my race and put us on top right?

or was it just magic?

Racist! Dont you know your not supposed to say anything favorable about the white race?
 
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75th said:
Because its completely untrue. Well, that and the idea that white influence destroyed Africa as well.

Both total bullshit. Which obviously means he doesnt know what he is talking about.


explain how this is untrue...


moreover, what are you thoughts and comments on the old South Africa and Apartheid ?
 
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75th said:
Because its completely untrue. Well, that and the idea that white influence destroyed Africa as well.

Both total bullshit. Which obviously means he doesnt know what he is talking about.


You're the one who's wrong unfortunately.
No only the apartied point in South Africa, but the manipulation of the many other countries throughout the continent. There 's a good book about it called Heart of Darkness.
 
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gjohnson5 said:
You're the one who's wrong unfortunately.
No only the apartied point in South Africa, but the manipulation of the many other countries throughout the continent. There 's a good book about it called Heart of Darkness.

And I assume you think Nelson Mandela is a good, honorable man who really deserved that Nobel Peace Prize, right?
 
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75th said:
And I assume you think Nelson Mandela is a good, honorable man who really deserved that Nobel Peace Prize, right?

He fought for what he believed in and was willing to die for his peoples freedom...
So yes, he later became the president of South Africa

Your version of black history is really misconstrewed , dude. No it's jsut fucked up
 
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gjohnson5 said:
He fought for what he believed in and was willing to die for his peoples freedom...
So yes, he later became the president of South Africa

Your version of black history is really misconstrewed , dude. No it's jsut fucked up

Actually, the fact that the man was responsible (both directly and indirectly) for thousands of rapes, tortures, and murders isnt just a figment of my imagination. It is a verifiable fact.

Of course, I can only assume someone like yourself will dismiss this as bullshit.
 
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75th said:
Actually, the fact that the man was responsible (both directly and indirectly) for thousands of rapes, tortures, and murders isnt just a figment of my imagination. It is a verifiable fact.

Of course, I can only assume someone like yourself will dismiss this as bullshit.


Then verify it
 
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2ez said:
explain how this is untrue...

Well, lets look at the most prominent example, which would probably be Japan. After all, we proceeded to occupy their land (much like modern Iraq) after we were done firebombing and nuking the shit out of them.

Although the occupation was technically an "allied" adventure, theres no arguing that the United States played the biggest role. In 1947 they held their first democratic elections. Also in that year, a land reform that ended the prehistoric "feudal system" and basic redistribution of land that they had going on for hundreds of years. Add on to that our hand in ensuring equality for women.

This leads to the Japan we know and love today. How again did we ruin it?
 
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gjohnson5 said:
Then verify it
Figures you have no idea what youre talking about.

Try reading up on the African National Council, in which Mandela was a big time leader. They made sure to model it after Soviet Communism, so you know its gonna have a long history of positive attributes.

One of my favorite methods your man Mandela used to kill people was to place a tire around someones neck, fill the brim with gas, and light it on fire.

Yeah, he was a real winner.
 
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75th said:
Figures you have no idea what youre talking about.

Try reading up on the African National Council, in which Mandela was a big time leader. They made sure to model it after Soviet Communism, so you know its gonna have a long history of positive attributes.

One of my favorite methods your man Mandela used to kill people was to place a tire around someones neck, fill the brim with gas, and light it on fire.

Yeah, he was a real winner.


No I want YOU to point out your nonsense to me. You are the one drawing conclusions as to WHO is responsible for what so I want YOU to show where your conclusions are stated...
 
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gjohnson5 said:
No I want YOU to point out your nonsense to me. You are the one drawing conclusions as to WHO is responsible for what so I want YOU to show where your conclusions are stated...
Wow. Ignorance really is bliss.

You should really read up on such segments of history you claim to know so well.

From BBC:
The misdeeds of the Soviet-sponsored African National Congress have been well chronicled. It operated under and parallel to the South African Communist Party, established in the early 1920s as the first Communist Party outside the Soviet Union. In fact, the party was set up under the slogan, "Whites of South Africa unite to keep South Africa white."

Throughout the Cold War, the Russians provided training and advisors to the ANC. Russia sent troops and billions of dollars in arms to fight a war in Angola against the Afrikaners. This was a part of the Brezhnev Doctrine to "seize the strategic mineral treasure chest of Southern Africa and deny these materials to the Western military industrial complex." These minerals include titanium, used to build fighter jets, and zirconium oxide, a rare commodity used to sheathe nuclear reactor fuel.

The crimes committed by the ANC in the name of liberation are legion. First, there was the practice of "necklacing," in which a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze -- an action carried out by Nelson Mandela and his minions. Another horror was the "Church Street Massacre," in which Nelson Mandela approved of a bomb set to explode at rush hour to maximize casualties of Afrikaner women, children and babies.

The same Mandela who told the black youth of South Africa to "burn down" their schools has produced a lawless, unemployable generation. Mandela recently traveled to Libya and presented Qaddafi with South Africa's highest military medal.


More bizarre yet is the saga of Executive Outcomes, a private army of Afrikaner special forces who fight on behalf of the ANC and Western multinational corporations around the world.

ANC death camps in Angola
Through the work of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, the gulags of northern Angola -- where the ANC mutilated and tortured cadres who would not go along with the terrorist campaign -- have also been brought to light. The ANC has admitted that torture and "staggering brutality" were committed at their Angolan re-education camps in the 1980s and "could have caused prisoner deaths." In an internal report, the ANC documented 17 eyewitness accounts of detainees who survived the camps.

"The ANC routinely violated its own code of conduct with physical and psychological torture," said the report. One detainee has written a book about the camps, which he referred to as "a scene from [the film] 'Spartacus.'"

The report -- which was authored by two ANC officials and an independent advocate -- did not single out any ANC members responsible directly for torture, although it is believed the late ANC activist Chris Hani was involved. Nelson Mandela has refused to apologize for what he said were "inexcusable" violations of human rights during the ANC's terror campaign against the white-led regime. Mandela did, however, admit that torture occurred at ANC prisons and camps. But the report now documents that this abuse was widespread and far-reaching. Torture and murder occurred not only in Angola, but also in ANC re-education camps in Uganda and Tanzania.

This report was a major embarrassment to the ANC, which had been lionized in the West for its war to end apartheid and install a supposedly democratic government in South Africa. Detainees recounted in the report that they were tortured for disagreeing with Marxist orthodoxy, refusing to carry out bombings of civilians, being accused of spying, questioning ANC policy, or trying to leave the organization altogether.

Even the late Joe Slovo, a Lithuanian-born KGB colonel and the main leader of the South African Communist Party through the 1980s and early 1990s, said before his death that "it is possible that people died" in the re-education camps.

"The worst conditions were at the Quatro camp in Angola, where guards and medical assistants were universally hostile. The inmates, whether convicted of any offense or not, were denigrated, humiliated and abused, often with staggering brutality. Prisoners were forced to crawl through piles of red ants, thrown down into trenches and then made to crawl out while guards poured dirt into the hole. Others were denied food, water and medical treatment. One prisoner had boiling water poured on his head. His head was then regularly struck against a tree to prevent healing. Prisoners were beaten to force confessions. Some prisoners were executed by firing squads for taking part in mutinies, beaten to death for infractions of military discipline or died of malaria and other illnesses in detention. From the late 1970s until 1991, suspected spies were imprisoned for up to eight years without any hearing, tortured to extract confessions, and beaten with sticks and wires."

Ironically, the ANC accused the white-led South African police of conducting torture of black cadres in a similar manner.

The report continues: "We were left with an overall impression that for the better part of the '80s, there existed a situation of extraordinary abuse of power and lack of accountability at the prisons. Order in the exile camps began to break down after the 1976 black student uprising in Soweto, which brought a flood of new and younger volunteers into the guerrilla training centers. Many of the new recruits were poorly educated, impatient to fight, given to drinking and drugs. Some were secret agents sent by the South African police. Thus the ANC gave its security department, called "Mbokodo" [the Xhosa word for "grinding stone"] unchecked power to investigate, judge and punish recruits."

The panel that compiled the report also learned the names of accused torturers, some of whom still hold posts in the ANC's security apparatus. The actual names were withheld from the published report, but are known to the ANC hierarchy. Two ANC leaders were directly named, however: Joe Modise, the former head of the ANC's military wing, and Jacob Zuma, the former ANC secretary general. Neither was accused of torture.

However, Modise was cited as being part of a tribunal that in 1981 improperly arrested Dumisani Khosa, a producer for the ANC's underground radio station. Khosa was arrested for "complaining about nepotism and sexual harassment" within the ANC. The report states that Khosa was "beaten until he urinated blood, then shipped to the Quatro camp in Angola where he was held for more than three years."

Others implicated in the report are ANC representatives in Zambia and Uganda, as well as one of Mandela's former bodyguards.

Rape capital of the world
Media coverage of the new South Africa has been muted at best, rarely focusing on ANC-sponsored anarchy. Indeed, South Africa, once a rich and prosperous pro-West, first-world nation, has decayed into anarchy over the past six years.

There is a rape every 26 seconds -- only one in 35 of which is reported. In 1998, the official South African rate was 104.1 rapes per 100,000 people; in the U.S., it was 34.4 per 100,000. The "rape generation" of black males aged 20 to 29 have around a 40-percent HIV infection rate, according to some estimates. Many young blacks erroneously believe that if they rape a virgin, they will be cured of AIDS.

I know youre too "proud" to ever admit it, but your boy Mandela is a piece of shit who deserves to die a slow, painful death.
 
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75th said:
Wow. Ignorance really is bliss.

You should really read up on such segments of history you claim to know so well.

From BBC:


I know youre too "proud" to ever admit it, but your boy Mandela is a piece of shit who deserves to die a slow, painful death.

Please give a url to the source
 
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gjohnson5 said:
Please give a url to the source
I posted that on another board, and apparently the original link has expired.

Luckily, WorldNetDaily has archives.

I know its a bitch for you to admit that you are wrong, especially about someone with whom you share the same ethnicity, but history is history.
 
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75th said:
Wow. Ignorance really is bliss.

You should really read up on such segments of history you claim to know so well.

From BBC:


I know youre too "proud" to ever admit it, but your boy Mandela is a piece of shit who deserves to die a slow, painful death.


Everyone with dark skin needs to die a slow painful death by your accounts of history...

This same BBC has a much different take on the situation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1454208.stm
 
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gjohnson5 said:
Everyone with dark skin needs to die a slow painful death by your accounts of history...

This same BBC has a much different take on the situation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1454208.stm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nice try, but a little P.R. piece doesnt change history.

Youre wrong. Just admit it and walk away with some dignity.
 
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gjohnson5 said:
You have pointed out something I need to research , I'll grant you that

You can research it all you want.

But in the end, facts are facts.
 
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75th said:
Well, lets look at the most prominent example, which would probably be Japan. After all, we proceeded to occupy their land (much like modern Iraq) after we were done firebombing and nuking the shit out of them.

Although the occupation was technically an "allied" adventure, theres no arguing that the United States played the biggest role. In 1947 they held their first democratic elections. Also in that year, a land reform that ended the prehistoric "feudal system" and basic redistribution of land that they had going on for hundreds of years. Add on to that our hand in ensuring equality for women.

This leads to the Japan we know and love today. How again did we ruin it?



hmmm ?


I am still not following you....

Why are they so much better after the U.S influence ?
 
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gjohnson5 said:
your definition of fact , if I remember correctly , included statistics with great bias applied to them

You need to look up that word fact yourself

God youre retarded.

It happened. No matter how much you want to deny it just based on the color of the man's skin and how many ignorant folk love the guy and think he can do no wrong.

Its written and documented by thousands of separate sources. Which, in short, makes it a fact.
 
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2ez said:
hmmm ?


I am still not following you....

Why are they so much better after the U.S influence ?
Read about Japan pre WWII and compare with with Japan we know today.

Easy answer.
 
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75th said:
Read about Japan pre WWII and compare with with Japan we know today.

Easy answer.


NOt that easy of an answer...


I will be reading with an Americanize point of view. Who am I to say what is best for them.
 
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2ez said:
NOt that easy of an answer...


I will be reading with an Americanize point of view. Who am I to say what is best for them.

Destruction of ancient feudal system.

Equality for women.

Whats not to like? They seem to be happy.
 
Why is it a nonsense theread? Why is that if a woman wants to join the pga it is sexiest and unconstitutional if they say no and point to the fact that it is a club for men to compete against other men.

Or that places such as the Citadel is forced to accept women into their ranks altering a long standing tradition.

Or better yet!

We have the BET (black entertainment channel), there is black history month, Martin Luther King Holiday, United Negro Fund, NAACP, and a lot more that I can't think of right now.

White if we had a WET, NAAWP, white history month, brought back President Washingtons birthday,

I'll bet the whole freaking black caucus would have a major brain anurisms, etc over that and us white people would be sued, labeled racist etc. Very much a double standard in this country and it does nothing to promote unity and a cohesive peoples that are independend but all working toward a common goal of having the greatest country in the history of the world.
 
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75th said:
Destruction of ancient feudal system.

Equality for women.

Whats not to like? They seem to be happy.

2ez made the comment that america made asia hell...wtf? he should be accountable to back this statement up, he's a cut and paste bitch. before american intervention with japan they were raping, slaying, and pillaging villages across the chinese countryside...
 
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Gambino said:
2ez made the comment that america made asia hell...wtf? he should be accountable to back this statement up, he's a cut and paste bitch. before american intervention with japan they were raping, slaying, and pillaging villages across the chinese countryside...

Im not used to seeing posts with common sense on this page (aside from my own, of course).

Thanks for the breath of fresh air Gambino.
 
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75th said:
Im not used to seeing posts with common sense on this page (aside from my own, of course).

Thanks for the breath of fresh air Gambino.


This would also include you own , especially the one where U use the word fact and don't even know what the word means
 
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Gambino said:
2ez made the comment that america made asia hell...wtf? he should be accountable to back this statement up, he's a cut and paste bitch. before american intervention with japan they were raping, slaying, and pillaging villages across the chinese countryside...


I gonna find someone who's Japanese and point him to these words... let's see what they say
 
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Gambino said:
2ez made the comment that america made asia hell...wtf? he should be accountable to back this statement up, he's a cut and paste bitch. before american intervention with japan they were raping, slaying, and pillaging villages across the chinese countryside...


Noooooo !

***Speaking in 3rd Party****


2ez should be accountable for what he says and not the thoughts and ideas of another poster. Please read the post again. I said taken from another board and I thought it was interesting to see such words coming from someone that is not African American.

Not sure why the "bitch" comment...when in all actuality your the one crying like a 5yr old.

Your apology is accepted.



Here is a comment from another person:



This IS a white country.
That is the reality. In order to suceed, one has to assimilate (to a certain degree). Emulating minority groups (black people) with insanely high crime rates and who overall have a very bad image is flat-out dumb. Best to emulate white people. More acceptance is gained.
 
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chesty said:
Why is it a nonsense theread? Why is that if a woman wants to join the pga it is sexiest and unconstitutional if they say no and point to the fact that it is a club for men to compete against other men.

Or that places such as the Citadel is forced to accept women into their ranks altering a long standing tradition.

Or better yet!

We have the BET (black entertainment channel), there is black history month, Martin Luther King Holiday, United Negro Fund, NAACP, and a lot more that I can't think of right now.

White if we had a WET, NAAWP, white history month, brought back President Washingtons birthday,

I'll bet the whole freaking black caucus would have a major brain anurisms, etc over that and us white people would be sued, labeled racist etc. Very much a double standard in this country and it does nothing to promote unity and a cohesive peoples that are independend but all working toward a common goal of having the greatest country in the history of the world.


What is a double standard ?


There is a WET......but the letters: ABC, NBC and CBS are used instead of WET.

Out of curiosity........What do you and your family do during Black History Month ?

Arguably there are organizations similar to NAAWP.
 
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2ez said:
Noooooo !

***Speaking in 3rd Party****


2ez should be accountable for what he says and not the thoughts and ideas of another poster. Please read the post again. I said taken from another board and I thought it was interesting to see such words coming from someone that is not African American.

Not sure why the "bitch" comment...when in all actuality your the one crying like a 5yr old. Your apology is accepted.


Here is a comment from another person:



This IS a white country.
That is the reality. In order to suceed, one has to assimilate (to a certain degree). Emulating minority groups (black people) with insanely high crime rates and who overall have a very bad image is flat-out dumb. Best to emulate white people. More acceptance is gained.

crying? doode you are the one who is crying about everything not being fair, every post on this thread of yours is crying about shit to some degree...since you posted that about Asia, i think it is only fair to back it up somehow, i call bullshit on that statement...don't cop out, you quoted the phrase. let's hear how america made asia hell.
 
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gjohnson5 said:
I gonna find someone who's Japanese and point him to these words... let's see what they say

well, it is true...japanese imperial ambitions were curbed by the allied powers after the war, esp the USA...history books often gloss over this aspect of the war. Japan invaded China and was more than brutal with the population...google nanking (sp?) massacare and comfort women. Allied presence in japan had a huge impact in the area
 
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gjohnson5 said:
This would also include you own , especially the one where U use the word fact and don't even know what the word means
Nice try. Keep thinking that Mandela is a positive influence. Also, Im sure you believe MLK didnt sleep around on his wife, either.

I wonder what its like living in a world where truth is irrelevant.
 
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75th said:
Nice try. Keep thinking that Mandela is a positive influence. Also, Im sure you believe MLK didnt sleep around on his wife, either.

I wonder what its like living in a world where truth is irrelevant.

I'm starting to understand this thread more and more...

This thread is all about attacks races that you and other conservatives don't understand. let's forget about the accomplishments , inspiration , and changes and let's focus in on personal attaks.

This is the only truth I see in this nonsense
 
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gjohnson5 said:
I'm starting to understand this thread more and more...

This thread is all about attacks races that you and other conservatives don't understand. let's forget about the accomplishments , inspiration , and changes and let's focus in on personal attaks.

This is the only truth I see in this nonsense

In other words, you dont even want to know the truth because you have some retarded dedication to a certain skin color rather than to the truth.

And I cant help but laugh at how you equate murder, rape, and torture to a simple "personal attack." :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:

Youre pathetic, and now everyone here has seen it.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 
And its obvious that YOU are the one who doesnt understand this time around.

Im sorry to burst your bubble, but murder, rape, and torture cant stand, especially in a person so many dumb, ignorant shits idolize, like Nelson Mandela.
 
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75th said:
In other words, you dont even want to know the truth because you have some retarded dedication to a certain skin color rather than to the truth.

And I cant help but laugh at how you equate murder, rape, and torture to a simple "personal attack." :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:

Youre pathetic, and now everyone here has seen it.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

No in other words , I think your idea of truth is so screwed , miscontrewed and just plain fucked up that I don't even see how you passed 3rd grade...
 
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gjohnson5 said:
No in other words , I think your idea of truth is so screwed , miscontrewed and just plain fucked up that I don't even see how you passed 3rd grade...

Way to deny historical fact!

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 
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gjohnson5 said:
No in other words , I think your idea of truth is so screwed , miscontrewed and just plain fucked up that I don't even see how you passed 3rd grade...

HOW TO BE A GOOD COMMUNIST
by
Nelson Mandela

INTRODUCTION

A Communist is a member of the Communist Party who understands and accepts the theory and practice of Marxism-Leninism as explained by Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin , and who subjects himself to the discipline of the Party. (See notes 1, 2, 3 & 4)

The goal of Communism is a classless society based on the principle: from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs. The aim is to change the present world into a Communist world where there will be no exploiters and no exploited, no oppressor and oppressed, no rich and no poor. Communists fight for a world where there will be no unemployment, no poverty and starvation, disease and ignorance. In such a world there will be no capitalists, no imperialists, no fascists. There will be neither colonies nor wars.

In our own country, the struggles of the oppressed people are guided by the South African Communist Party and inspired by its policies. The aim of the S.A.C.P. is to defeat the Nationalist government and to free the people of South Africa from the evils of racial discrimination and exploitation and to build a classless or socialist society in which the land, the mines, the mills, our . . . . . . . (unreadable)

Under a Communist Party Government South Africa will become a land of milk and honey. Political, economic and social rights will cease to be enjoyed by Whites only. They will be shared equally by Whites and Non-Whites. There will be enough land and houses for all. There will be no unemployment, starvation and disease.

Workers will earn decent wages; transport will be cheap and education free. There will be no pass laws, no influx control, no Police raids for passes and poll tax, and Africans, Europeans, Coloureds and Indians will live in racial peace and perfect equality.

The victory of Socialism in the U.S.S.R., in the Peoples Republic of China, in Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Rumania, where the living conditions of the people were in many respects similar and even worse than ours, proves that we too can achieve this important goal.

Communists everywhere fight to destroy capitalist society and to replace it with Socialism, where the masses of the common people, irrespective of race or colour, will live in complete equality, freedom and happiness. They seek to revolutionise society and are thus called revolutionaries. Those who support capitalism with its class divisions and other evils and who oppose our just struggles to end oppression are called counter revolutionaries.

Comrade Liu Hao Schi, member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, says:

we Communist Party members are the most advanced revolutionaries in modern history and are the contemporary fighting and driving force in changing society and the world. Revolutionaries exist because counter-revolutionaries still exist. Therefore, to conduct a ceaseless struggle against the counter-revolutionaries constitutes an essential condition for the existence and development of revolutionaries. If they fail to carry on such a struggle, they cannot be called revolutionaries and still less can they advance and develop. It is in the course of this … [that] ... members change society, change the world and at the same time change themselves.

To succeed in conducting a ceaseless struggle against the counter-revolutionaries, and to be able to play the vital role of being the most advanced revolutionary and driving force in changing society and the world, one must put all else aside and seriously and faithfully undertake self-cultivation.


I've really been avoiding this subject , but you need to read the parts in bold before marking Nelson Mandela as an evil man. The goals are anything but evil and once again. The man wanted a soclailist govt so there will be no
1. racism
2. explotation
3. oppression

Freedom doesn't come at no cost... But I think the word Socialist would be a more American accepted word... All countries don't want Democracy / Capitalism and I think those countries should have the gov't of thier choosing...

There's the truth from his own document
 
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gjohnson5 said:
HOW TO BE A GOOD COMMUNIST
by
Nelson Mandela

INTRODUCTION

A Communist is a member of the Communist Party who understands and accepts the theory and practice of Marxism-Leninism as explained by Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin , and who subjects himself to the discipline of the Party. (See notes 1, 2, 3 & 4)

The goal of Communism is a classless society based on the principle: from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs. The aim is to change the present world into a Communist world where there will be no exploiters and no exploited, no oppressor and oppressed, no rich and no poor. Communists fight for a world where there will be no unemployment, no poverty and starvation, disease and ignorance. In such a world there will be no capitalists, no imperialists, no fascists. There will be neither colonies nor wars.

In our own country, the struggles of the oppressed people are guided by the South African Communist Party and inspired by its policies. The aim of the S.A.C.P. is to defeat the Nationalist government and to free the people of South Africa from the evils of racial discrimination and exploitation and to build a classless or socialist society in which the land, the mines, the mills, our . . . . . . . (unreadable)

Under a Communist Party Government South Africa will become a land of milk and honey. Political, economic and social rights will cease to be enjoyed by Whites only. They will be shared equally by Whites and Non-Whites. There will be enough land and houses for all. There will be no unemployment, starvation and disease.

Workers will earn decent wages; transport will be cheap and education free. There will be no pass laws, no influx control, no Police raids for passes and poll tax, and Africans, Europeans, Coloureds and Indians will live in racial peace and perfect equality.

The victory of Socialism in the U.S.S.R., in the Peoples Republic of China, in Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Rumania, where the living conditions of the people were in many respects similar and even worse than ours, proves that we too can achieve this important goal.

Communists everywhere fight to destroy capitalist society and to replace it with Socialism, where the masses of the common people, irrespective of race or colour, will live in complete equality, freedom and happiness. They seek to revolutionise society and are thus called revolutionaries. Those who support capitalism with its class divisions and other evils and who oppose our just struggles to end oppression are called counter revolutionaries.

Comrade Liu Hao Schi, member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, says:

we Communist Party members are the most advanced revolutionaries in modern history and are the contemporary fighting and driving force in changing society and the world. Revolutionaries exist because counter-revolutionaries still exist. Therefore, to conduct a ceaseless struggle against the counter-revolutionaries constitutes an essential condition for the existence and development of revolutionaries. If they fail to carry on such a struggle, they cannot be called revolutionaries and still less can they advance and develop. It is in the course of this … [that] ... members change society, change the world and at the same time change themselves.

To succeed in conducting a ceaseless struggle against the counter-revolutionaries, and to be able to play the vital role of being the most advanced revolutionary and driving force in changing society and the world, one must put all else aside and seriously and faithfully undertake self-cultivation.


I've really been avoiding this subject , but you need to read the parts in bold before marking Nelson Mandela as an evil man. The goals are anything but evil and once again. The man wanted a soclailist govt so there will be no
1. racism
2. explotation
3. oppression

Freedom doesn't come at no cost... But I think the word Socialist would be a more American accepted word... All countries don't want Democracy / Capitalism and I think those countries should have the gov't of thier choosing...

There's the truth from his own document


LOL "from his own document!"

Havent you ever heard the phrase "actions speak louder than words?"

Im sure you also believe Scott Peterson didnt kill his wife because he said so!

LOL!

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 
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milo hobgoblin said:
The road to hell........ blah blah blah.
This guy is a real piece of work, isnt he?

Ive met a lot of ignorant people over the years, but come on....
 
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75th said:
Wow. Ignorance really is bliss.

You should really read up on such segments of history you claim to know so well.

From BBC:


I know youre too "proud" to ever admit it, but your boy Mandela is a piece of shit who deserves to die a slow, painful death.

Getting back to this , I haven't started looking for the japanese person yet ,but I wonder what they think of Americans dropping the abomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

I'm sure it will sound similar to the above
Would you like me to post some Tribal nation Anti-American sentiment on thier genocide??

I'm sure it will sound similar to what you've posted. You know war is a terrible thing is it not? If you choose to throw some facts out and leave others in then I'd say your "history" is more like "his story" and needs work as well.

Your idea of
1. fact
2. truth
3. history
ALL need work, so start with websters dictionary , lol
 
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NAACP objects to Campfield's "comments comparing the Legislative Black Caucus to the Ku Klux Klan."

i agree that "reverse racism" is everywhere. and that the naacp throws some low blows.

but comparing them to the klan... thats silly.

buring white churches or hanging white people from trees is not exactly what the naacp is up too. they are a political group that make political moves just like the fagget democrats and the lunitic republicans.

im not surprised at any of this... its a great example of how our scoiety has become a bunch of mud slinging, sue happy, over sensitive, trash.

anyway, everyone knows black people have bigger caucuses!

BO-DEN
 
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gjohnson5 said:
Getting back to this , I haven't started looking for the japanese person yet ,but I wonder what they think of Americans dropping the abomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

I'm sure it will sound similar to the above
Would you like me to post some Tribal nation Anti-American sentiment on thier genocide by whites??

I'm sure it will sound similar to what you've posted. You know war is a terrible thing is it now. If you choose to throw the facts out and leave others in then I'd say your "history" is more like "his story" and needs work as well.

Way to try and dodge the issue.

So, youre saying that because a few ignorant people around the world look up to Mandela that we should just forget about the fact that he was responsible for the murder, rape, and torture of thousands of people? That he gave the order to place a bomb near a church and a school at times that it would maximize the amount of casualties? Yeah, he was awarded a Nobel Peace prize, but so was Yasser Arafat...and if you need me to tell you why THAT is a laugh then your problems are worse than I thought.

Youre pathetic. You would honestly preserve what little dignity you have (if any) if you just admit that you are wrong and let it go.
 
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BO-DEN said:
anyway, everyone knows black people have bigger caucuses!

ZING!
 
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75th said:
Way to try and dodge the issue.

So, youre saying that because a few ignorant people around the world look up to Mandela that we should just forget about the fact that he was responsible for the murder, rape, and torture of thousands of people? That he gave the order to place a bomb near a church and a school at times that it would maximize the amount of casualties? Yeah, he was awarded a Nobel Peace prize, but so was Yasser Arafat...and if you need me to tell you why THAT is a laugh then your problems are worse than I thought.

Youre pathetic. You would honestly preserve what little dignity you have (if any) if you just admit that you are wrong and let it go.

There is no direct evidence linking Mandela to any specific action. This is just what YOU created. There is no evidence he "ordered" people raped. You are sensationalizing like "his storian" you are. War is terrible. War is all about death. What do you expect War to be like?

No you are pathetic for trying to create "facts". You opinion is definitly not wanted or desired... The facts only... OOh I forgot , You don't know the meaning of the word
:rolleyes:
So I'll have to filter you as best as I can
 
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gjohnson5 said:
There is no direct evidence linking Mandela to any specific action. This is just what YOU created.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
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Gambino said:
crying? doode you are the one who is crying about everything not being fair, every post on this thread of yours is crying about shit to some degree...since you posted that about Asia, i think it is only fair to back it up somehow, i call bullshit on that statement...don't cop out, you quoted the phrase. let's hear how america made asia hell.


Mr Gambino,


Not sure what you mean by me crying. Moreover, as I have stated to Mr 75, it is a little arrogant and pompous for me to assume that Asia is any better off as a result of the globalization efforts from the US. Was this the only logical and productive way for change ? I can't answer this....but I will say that I wish efforts were as strong domestically, as they are internationally. My thinkings are from an Americanize point of view. Just because something is different does not imply that it is wrong.


This goes for the thinkings around here as well. Lot of negative jabs being thrown at each other around here. Not sure exactly why this is the case. I am not trying to change anyones thinkings...and I am old and set in my ways, so please do not try to change mine.

But I see no reason why the negativity has to be, when explaining my thoughts and ideas.



This is not directly aimed at you Mr Gambino...but to everyone posting in this thread. I was under the impression that we are all adults here from a civilized society.
 
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2ez said:
Mr Gambino,


Not sure what you mean by me crying. Moreover, as I have stated to Mr 75, it is a little arrogant and pompous for me to assume that Asia is any better off as a result of the globalization efforts from the US. Was this the only logical and productive way for change ? I can't answer this....but I will say that I wish efforts were as strong domestically, as they are internationally. My thinkings are from an Americanize point of view. Just because something is different does not imply that it is wrong.

Mr.2ez,
If it wasn't for American intervention in Asia, Japan would have stomped out china and korea...read my threads, hit google up for your own fact finding... check it out and get back to me
 
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Gambino said:
Mr.2ez,
If it wasn't for American intervention in Asia, Japan would have stomped out china and korea...read my threads, hit google up for your own fact finding... check it out and get back to me


I know the story Mr Gambino. But I am not only reading from an Americanize point of view.....but also the fact that I am a lover and not a fighter...hehehe i am one to believe that making ovetures in other areas are not always what is best for that receiving end. Was it necessary in this case....maybe so in some cases. But i also believe they lost something in the exchange as well. The fact that wether or not they are better off can be argued either way. I do not believe all is perfect.

I also learned a long time ago, that we are told little on what may be actual. So please understand my hesitation with tooting the U.S horn for intervention.
 
Hey gJohnson and 75th,


I love you guyz....hehehe


but in a 100% heterosexual kind of way of course.


just thought i would let you guyz know this. :-)
 
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2ez said:
I know the story Mr Gambino. But I am not only reading from an Americanize point of view.....but also the fact that I am a lover and not a fighter...hehehe i am one to believe that making ovetures in other areas are not always what is best for that receiving end. Was it necessary in this case....maybe so in some cases. But i also believe they lost something in the exchange as well. The fact that wether or not they are better off can be argued either way. I do not believe all is perfect.

I also learned a long time ago, that we are told little on what may be actual. So please understand my hesitation with tooting the U.S horn for intervention.


exactly what are you talking about? if you remember correctly japan attacked us pulling us in the far-east conflict...the exchange was liberty for china and korea...what exactly did they lose?
 
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Gambino said:
exactly what are you talking about? if you remember correctly japan attacked us pulling us in the far-east conflict...the exchange was liberty for china and korea...what exactly did they lose?


Who ?
 
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Gambino said:
wtf is this thread about? i forget
It began about some white guy and the 5 pages have been dedicated to me owning gjohnson regarding Nelson Mandela.
 
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gjohnson5 said:
failure , which is exactly how to describe you
So youve resorted to the "Im rubber, and youre glue" defense.

I dont see why its so hard to admit that you were desperately wrong. So very, very wrong. Im talking like Hitler deciding to invade Russia wrong.

Your boy Mandela is a piece of shit. Its so very sad that you continue to defend him just because of the color of his skin.

You are a waste of oxygen, and represent everything that is wrong with this country. When people refer to "dumb americans" they refer to folks like yourself...who have been proven wrong over and over yet continue to make feeble arguments attempting to support their point, or lack thereof.
 
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