Whey versus Milk Protein Powder

[jay_the_man]

This may be an old debate and if the search engine worked I would have used it.

My question is based off this old article I read and I am sure most of you have:
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/leaneating_1.htm


I quote:
Demling et al (2000) compared two groups on a 2100 to 2300kcal diet containing 143gP (26%), 286gC (52%), and 49gF (20%). Both groups weight trained for twelve weeks but received 75g of their daily protein intake from either a whey-based drink or a milk-protein isolate drink (80% casein, 20% whey). At the end of the study, the milk-protein isolate group lost more fat (15.4lbs vs. 9.2lbs), gained more lean mass (9lbs vs. 4.4lbs), and gained more upper and lower body strength than the whey group. It appears that milk protein isolate ingestion, when on a training program, may be a better way to enhance fat loss and muscle gain.


My Question:
I have been using IsoPure Whey Protein, but seeing the above statement which is in the article is leads me to want to get a milk based protein drink as my primary "protein" shake mix drink. I will of course have a little of all proteins throughout the day as the article suggested.

Should stick with a 100% whey or go to the milk based?

 

[Senior Woonaki]

it would not hurt to try and then get back to us... I currently only take my whey post workout with Maltodextrin... I take casein protein at all other times... I think the casein just burns slower and gives you a more constant stream of nutrients - whey burns much quicker....

 

[Euphanasia]

what are some milk based proteins?

 

[Senior Woonaki]

check out proteinfactory.com or proteincustomizer.com....

i am a big fan of the factory!!!

 

[javaguru]

I love milk protein isolate, it's cheaper than the whey isolates and since I'm slightly lactose intolerant so concentrates make me "explosive." I use hydrolized whey during and post workout but otherwise it's milk isolate. Another advantage of milk isolate is that it retains the mineral content of milk so you get plenty of calcium and other minerals(calcium has been shown to help in losing body fat).

 

[jay_the_man]

damn.. problem is finding a decent product that contains 80% casein and 20% whey and doesn't cost so much per pd.

Here is what I found:
http://www.biotestdirect.com/biotlowcargr.html


if anyone can suggest another product for a better $$ please reply.

 

[javaguru]

http://www.proteinfactory.com

http://www.proteincustomizer.com

Any 100% milk protein isolate product will be 80%/20% by definition.

 

[SeymourCuts]

The only times you can much benefit from the quick digesting properties of Whey protein is first thing in the morning to halt the catabolic state of sleep, pre/during workout to prevent a negative nitrogen balance, and immediately post-workout to help restore a positive nitrogen balance. I like the proteinfactory myself.

 

[roadrunner]

protein factory

How does the milk protein isolate from protein factory mix/taste?

 

[macDbol]

crazy idea, but what if you mix whey powder in real milk?

 

[jay_the_man]

i think the problem with real milk is the amount of sugar..

 

[Senior Woonaki]

there is a ton of sugar and fat in whole milk - lots of sugar in regular milk.... I love drinking milk but i have to save it for postworkout or on cheat days....

proteinfactory bannana is very good.. chocolate is also good, i always request splenda as a sweetener and have never had a problem

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

i mix my whey with cottage cheese,
the cottage cheese has carbs though (the whole tub has 8gms of carbs but it's not too bad as i keep count of it and it's so damn cheap!!)

i mixed my whey with very low fat cream cheese once (10g fat per tub with 6g carbs)
tasted awesome but had a very bad stomach ache after

 

[young guns]

there is a ton of sugar and fat in whole milk - lots of sugar in regular milk.... I love drinking milk but i have to save it for postworkout or on cheat days....

proteinfactory bannana is very good.. chocolate is also good, i always request splenda as a sweetener and have never had a problem

both the CFM whey isolate and milk isolate i got from there were chocolate flavored with splenda and tasted like complete shit.

the first blend i got was decent though: 50 milk isolate, 30 cfm whey isolate, 20 egg - flavored chocolate with splenda

 

[satchboogie]

comparing whey protein to milk/egg protein is like comapring the ferrari to the suburban.

both are vehicles of transportation, but different in their operation.

cfm whey - undefeated for pre and post workouts.

egg/milk/cassein - an excellent choice for any other times.

 

[Senior Woonaki]

satch summed it up nice...

also add a little maltoxextrin and ala/r-ala to that whey - NOW YOUR POST WORKOUT SHAKE IS COOKIN WITH GAS!!!!!