when they killed Zarqawi

[gotmojo]

dullboy says don't forget that they send us all those wonderful comedians.

That's right!

Dance showbiz monkey Dance!

Dance for the awful Americans!

 

[Phenom78]

They had his house surrounded with special forces, then the F-16's dropped 2 bombs and killed everyone inside the house, including a child.......

my question is, why did they have to kill the child with the bomb ? couldnt the commando's just go inside and kill him and the people that needed to be killed ? or why not capture his ass and find out information from him ?

messed up

Do you think the woman and child would have felt better about the experience if they had been killed with bullets and mortars instead of bombs?

Just for the purposes of edification it should be pointed out that their "safe house" wasn't some shack in an Iraqi village but an actual heavily built structure designed for the precise purpose of giving them some shielding in the event of an attack.

Assuming of course they wouldnt have opened the front door and surrendered to US forces some fire fight would have likely ensued, risking not only the lives of our forces but presumably putting anyone in the immediate area in jeopardy as well. I somehow doubt the terrorists would have agreed to a ceasefire long enough for us to clear the area of all civilians to avoid collateral damage.

Perhaps they understand some things you're missing.

 

[seizer]

Hey guy's for a second put the fucking politics down, put down your facts and stats, and all that other shit you've heard on the news or in the books. Think P-E-O-P-L-E. People. Would you want another country in your country? Seriously, dont look at what THEY need. Fuck their problems. As an american, right now, would you want another country to just waltz and say, "hello, see my nice gun? Yeah, I run things around here"?

 

[gotmojo]

Hey guy's for a second put the fucking politics down, put down your facts and stats, and all that other shit you've heard on the news or in the books. Think P-E-O-P-L-E. People. Would you want another country in your country? Seriously, dont look at what THEY need. Fuck their problems. As an american, right now, would you want another country to just waltz and say, "hello, see my nice gun, I run things around here"?

Go to East L.A., it's already happened there.

 

[Phenom78]

Hey guy's for a second put the fucking politics down, put down your facts and stats, and all that other shit you've heard on the news or in the books. Think P-E-O-P-L-E. People. Would you want another country in your country? Seriously, dont look at what THEY need. Fuck their problems. As an american, right now, would you want another country to just waltz and say, "hello, see my nice gun? Yeah, I run things around here"?

Here I thought we were fostering an independent Iraqi government, elected by the citizenry with a constitution approved by same.

Hey we did do that.

But to answer your question I would imagine that would depend on what the situation was when we entered. I don't imagine very many people complain when the person saving their lives is someone who wasn't supposed to be there to begin with. If a police officer showed up to save your life during an armed robbery would you tell him to give the criminals back their guns and leave if you noticed he was out of his jurisdiction?

The point I'm making is that your example fails to reflect any realistic assessment of actual conditions on the ground in Iraq at the time of the invasion. You fail to appreciate the nature of a people being held hostage by a homicidal thug in their own country and instead portray it as just some silly people who have made errant life choices.

 

[bluepeter]

Here I thought we were fostering an independent Iraqi government, elected by the citizenry with a constitution approved by same.

Hey we did do that.

But to answer your question I would imagine that would depend on what the situation was when we entered. I don't imagine very many people complain when the person saving their lives is someone who wasn't supposed to be there to begin with. If a police officer showed up to save your life during an armed robbery would you tell him to give the criminals back their guns and leave if you noticed he was out of his jurisdiction?

The point I'm making is that your example fails to reflect any realistic assessment of actual conditions on the ground in Iraq at the time of the invasion. You fail to appreciate the nature of a people being held hostage by a homicidal thug in their own country and instead portray it as just some silly people who have made errant life choices.

Good job trying to play on the emotions of 'saving the Iraqi people'.

 

[Phenom78]

Good job trying to play on the emotions of 'saving the Iraqi people'.

Yes blue

They are so besides the point after all.

 

[bluepeter]

Yes blue

They are so besides the point after all.

Indeed they are. I throw up in my mouth every time I read someone saying this is all about 'saving the Iraqis'. Oh, look at the chivalrous Americans rushing to their rescue. What a crock.

 

[big4life]

Yes, it sucks that a child was in the house, but if you can take out a target without putting your people at further risk you take it out. They knew where he was, but they didn't know if the house or people in it were rigged with explosives.

And no, these deaths don't really change anything, especially since some of the information on his location came from members of his own group. It almost sounds like a mob war, and the US was used as the hitmen.

 

[WODIN]

Just keep an eye on your border, OK hippie?

I wouldn't trade the freedom my brothers/forefathers have fought for.

You shit on the country to your South, but are blanketed by it';s protection because the U.S. WILL act when the time comes.

If generations of Americans had your "draft-dodging" attitude, neither of us would be here.

Come out from the "left" for a minute and "thank" the people who have lost their lives so you can post on EF in relative safety, under a blanket of protection that was GIVEN to you.

You're Welcome.

Uh....thanks for blowing up all those innocent civilians and children.