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what's the point of bulking for gaining muscle?

Jkurz, great post man...

right now im at 40% protein 35% Fat 25 % Carbs.

Its hard pinpointing the exact macros for the day, but i do try to get as close as possible.

Yeah, i know what you mean, im probably aT 12-13% BF right now, i guess thats why im advocating the low carbs.......When i was at 8% getting larger, i used to eat those hungry man TV dinners (1000+ Cals) to get needed ratios in. (they had a rotisire chicken with about 52g protein in one)

Great post tho, i see where you are coming from, im with that totally, ESP if you dont plan on going over 12%
 
which part?

DO YOU CHANGE MACROS FOR OFF DAYS?

PM cardio?


mm107 said:
Jkurz, great post man...

right now im at 40% protein 35% Fat 25 % Carbs.

Its hard pinpointing the exact macros for the day, but i do try to get as close as possible.

Yeah, i know what you mean, im probably aT 12-13% BF right now, i guess thats why im advocating the low carbs.......When i was at 8% getting larger, i used to eat those hungry man TV dinners (1000+ Cals) to get needed ratios in. (they had a rotisire chicken with about 52g protein in one)

Great post tho, i see where you are coming from, im with that totally, ESP if you dont plan on going over 12%
 
Dude its annoying when you ask for help and you get it and really you dont listen or if you do you seem to know better or have a answer as to why the info you have been given is wrong or you answer with just plain sarcasm. It comes across as disrepectfull to the people who have taken the time to type all this stuff on here trying to help you. This is why you are getting peoples backs up.
 
isn't the point of a forum to argue views and methods; of course if it makes sense? i was trying to get the final truth to what bulking really is when you are a natural and really what happens with all the extra calories that you get in. Im new to bodybuilding but not new to research and scientific facts. If you proved your point to me then i will shutup and say thank you. But the point is still to be fouund. Each person to his own.
 
You need to research more!! What works for one person will not always work for somebody else.If you have really done some real world research and not just reading things from a book you would have an idea already on what you need to do. Don't get me wrong we all started off needing help but asking for help when you need it and then argueing about how the advice given will not work is preatty damn retarded!!!! Maybe instead of all us experienced lifters having to prove something to you maybe you can explain why the advice given to you is wrong.
 
I dont know what point you want people to make. Getting bigger requires more cals, they will contribute to building muscle and also putting on some fat. You bulk till you are at your goal weight and then change your diet to a cutting diet to strip away the excess fat you put during the bulk. If you want to keep fat increase to a minimum make sure you diet is in check.

Find the calorie intake you need by getting a rough idea (there is a bulking calc in one of the top stickies) run with that, if you dont see a increase add 100-200 more cals for the next couple of weeks until you see a increase on the scales. Run this will a 5 X 5 routine from the weight training section of the forum and see yourself grow and get stronger. Why make this more complicated than it needs to be.
 
"Find the calorie intake you need by getting a rough idea (there is a bulking calc in one of the top stickies) run with that, if you dont see a increase add 100-200 more cals for the next couple of weeks until you see a increase on the scales. Run this will a 5 X 5 routine from the weight training section of the forum and see yourself grow and get stronger. Why make this more complicated than it needs to be."

word. good advice. Except one thing, well for at least my body, "Eat clean, time your meals, and limit carbs before bad to minimize fat gains." Because i still believe that calories in vs out is not completely true because there must be a difference on receptiveness of fat gain between a 600 calorie cheesesteak and a 600 calorie meal of chicken and yams or brown rice. Also, Right now im at 12-13% bf (started at 10%BF) but still look very small. So cutting for me is kind of stupid.
 
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