Whats better: Inj. 1-AD or 4-AD?

[MIKERAZ]

animals a dumb f*ck who plays chemist.

but tne in oil does work very very well so why wouldnt 4ad in oil work well unless the pro-hormoen itself sucked

 

[Fonz]

You are a waste of time. No wonder you got your ass banned on Animals board.


Hear Ye, Hear Ye: If you all want to look like Ronnie Coleman listen to limp dick, I mean Mikeraz because he will put you on the path to success. Since he couldn't/wouldn't listen to vet lifters on Animals board he can help you here. I vote he be made a MOD.... no wonder I hate visiting this lame ass board.. FUCK OFF DICK WEED and continue to be small, both physically and mentally!

No offense, but animal bans anybody who DARES to tell
him he's wromg.

IN FACT, he got BANNED from AF for this same reason.

Animal a mod here? Yeah right. There would be a civil war
between the moderators.

Actually, why don't you tell animal to get over here and explain
the 4-AD controversy to us........since he's so smart.

Fonz

 

[Pityocamptes]

Where did I say Animal become a MOD? Christ, not only are some of the people narrow minded but appearently they can't read either! As far as the 4AD controversy, please, you or Mikeraz explain why you haven't taken it to find out for yourself. Its a no brainer. The only way YOU will ever find out if something works is to try it. Please answer the one question on WHY you haven't taken it, I'd like to know. NO more smart ass remarks either Mikeraz. As far as disagreeing with Animal I have and so have others. We just haven't been so dense as to take it to the nth level to warrant a ban/flame.

 

[MIKERAZ]

People bash hmb ,vandyl sulfate why dont you take that then to see for yourself? i havent taken it the same reason why i never took vanadyl sulfate,hmb because i havent heard feedback that i like. And you were the one who started the smart ass/cursing remarks not me. Since day one ALL i have been trying to find out if 4ad is a mass builder and due to people posting very very vague or poor or sketchy posts on 4ad. Im not saying 4ad wont make ya stronger or endurance im asking for MASS! And anyway it looks like animals buisness might be over anyway rumor has it some hobby chemists got a visit from the DEA and there watching finaplix orders and animal also posted it recently so the kit buisness will probably be obsolite soon. but back to this argument animal will never come here and discuss it because he will never enter a argument he cant win on any other board but his(so he can delete,change things etc) in reality javaguru has the best proof but its one persons testimony.

 

[javaguru]

Here is the url to a meso article explaining esters and why a TNE solution sucks....

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/anabolic-steroid-esters.htm

Now, making a good suspension would require access to a laboratory. It's much more difficult than throwing some powder in a vial of sterile water or oil(solution/suspension). You would at least need a surfacant and you wouldn't be able to guarantee uniform particle size and dispersion. Likewise, what do you think would happen to the suspended material when you ran it through a .22um filter to sterilize?

 

[MIKERAZ]

but animal claims his oil kits suspend the hormone , i m still skeptical

 

[javaguru]

You certainly could create a suspension in oil but every pharmaceutical test suspension I've ever heard about is a water suspension. Since all steroids are by definition soluble in oil I would be concerned that an unknown amount of the drug would actually be in solution and the rest suspended. Likewise, the size of the steroid crystals is a prime factor in half-life. If the crystals are not uniform then your blood levels of the drug would be very erratic and it would be difficult to come up with an appropriate dosing schedule. Unless you have an even dispersion of crystals within the suspension you don't know exactly how much you are injecting which makes dosing problematic. Esters just make developing a consistent injection/dosing schedule easier as compared to a crude suspension, not to mention increasing solubility allowing for larger mg/ml solutions. I'm not saying a crude suspension wouldn't give results but the pharmacokinetics suck compared to an esterised product.

 

[MIKERAZ]

But you proving my point. aniimals oil suspensionm kits do suspend but peopel dont seem to be makign gains off it

 

[javaguru]

I wasn't defending his kits just stating some reasons why I consider them inferior to esterized products. I think there are way too many problems Vs benefits to make them worthwhile when you have access to an ester.

 

[MIKERAZ]

So java whens ur next 4ad cycle?