it sure seems to me that people might have a vested interest in talking shit about QV... and the hate has just recently cropped up... when making my decision to go w/QV, i read pretty much nothing but good reviews... now i hear a lot of shit talking from people who don't have a lot of posts (not that post count is indicative of knowledge)... but some "respected" people have had some not-so-good things to say about QV as well... but i like the shit... and i am running ONLY QV test enan... nothing else