What is the Best cutting product out there

[Extremelean]

Im looking to shred alot of bf and was wondering what is the best thing i could take...

Im 26, 239lbs and have been lifting on and off for about 7 years...i recently cleaned my diet up and im jumping back in the game 100% and ready to get things rollin

 

[chembeaker]

legal: clenbuterol, cytomel t3, human growth hormone, synephrine, caffeine in that order in my opinion

prescription: didrex (discontinued), phentermine, diethylpropion, phendimetrazine

illegal: amphetamines, aminorex derivitives both powerful discontinued dangerous prescription medications which have become illicit drugs, obviously not recommended

clenbuterol or t3 are probably your most affordable and healthy choices. hgh is great if you can afford it, a peptide releasing fragment may be an alternative but i've not had any experience looking at them.

 

[Artigo]

Clen + keto diet = shredded

 

[Extremelean]

Ok...i have 2bottles of clen on hand just was checkin to see i there was anything new out there...thanks

 

[Arabian]

personly testosterone/trenbelone stack burn more bodyfat for me then any clen/t3 combo or other drugs

not saying to go use these steroids, im just sharing wat i find works very well

but to be honst although clen and t3 work, there not miracle workers nor that effective, they work but there results arent wat i would call dramatic, and those who do get results from the drugs are dieting strict anyways so there weight loss cant really be attributed to the drugs

IMO if your just getting back into the game then ur going to drop fat very fast anyways so i personly wouldnt waste my money on and fat loss drugs until uve lost some fat and get down to a bodyfat where u find it hard to get rid of the stubborn fat, maybe then u coudl introduce some drugs to get rid of the stubborn fat

most people ive seen once they clean up there diet drop fat pretty dramaticaly anyways, so i say save ur money

the only thing i think u MIGHT benefit from is maybe a light appetite supresent drug if you find cutting calories hard

but even then some steamed vegies can help fill you up anyways

i also think you shoudl research into carb cycling so u dont hit any weight loss or fat loss platues n keep getting the results ur looking for as people usualy tend to turn to drugs wen there weight loss stalls, wen really all that is needed is some clever dieting to get fat loss moving along again

just my thoughts but im sure this week ull notice some dramtic weight loss with ur cleaner diet and probably lean towards my opinion

and of course i wish you the best with ur training and diet n hope u get the results ur looking for

Bloke is dead on. For cutting and lean muscle mass, a Test / Tren cycle is the only way to go IMO. The sides from the Tren can be a bit much for some to handle however I myself have never had any sides from that cycle. If you want a full overview of a Test ./Tren cycle, Stevesmi posted a complete log on his transformation on one on the board. I would find Steves log and read it from day one to the end. He made great gains on it and he never suffered any sides as well. Good luck

 

[BEEFCAKEZ]

Dnp

 

[Nelson Montana]

Keeping the fork out of your face.

 

[Extremelean]

Been keeping the fork out of my mouth....lol...but thanks for the info guys and i will read his log and go from here

 

[goin on 4T]

I wouldn't ever recomend test/tren to someone I hadn't even asked if they had ever run a cycle.
How about your diet and do some cardio?

 

[squatzilla]

I'm a big fan of early morn fasted cardio. Also eat whole foods + fresh fruits & veggies.

 

[C.K.]

mhn was great for recomping every fat lb lost i gained in lean muscle

 

[Extremelean]

My diet is great...im going slow with the cardio due to getting over my acl surgery...but im hoping my cycle will help with getting my quad strenght back to 100%

 

[Chopzilla]

mhn was great for recomping every fat lb lost i gained in lean muscle

Really hate to ask but what is mhn?

 

[bgbay]

diet

 

[Power36]

Ive heard a lot of folks complain about clen on here and other boards, that its not all it seems to be cracked up to be, with shitty sides for some...just curious as I know guys a long long time ago in college took it, but that was for football and they quit saying they though they were going to stroke out during hard sprint workouts mid summer...as for T3, for those of us already on thyroid (Im on Armor 1 grain a day of T3/T4), would spiking T3 work just the same or screw things up?

Another thing that cautious me on clen, Ive had adrenal issues/fatigue in the past which led to a crash of all my hormones...and if clen would ramp up anything it shouldnt Id have to stay away...but I am curious.

Ive leaned out before on low carb or keto, and 2-3 days a week dedicated to hard interval training, tabatas, sled drags, tire flips, sprints/agility drills, and 4 full body workouts a week starting on the platform with olympic lifts and then moving into the rack for power/structural strength lifts....but Ive never really tried to get super "shredded" and am starting to be tempted to try it for fun

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

When cutting, Tren/Test/Primo/Mast/Winny/Anavar are the more pupoluar. Thats how i would rate AAS anyways. You talking OC or IM?

Tren/test is perfectly fine for someone who has never cycled. I wouldnt recommened .75 mg of tren and 150 mg of test EOD and orals (although i did use), but put your tren at about .4-.5 cc EOD and your test double on your tren, and youll be ok. Asses your tolerance and go from there. I personally was at 235 about 30% body fat before i ever started dieting.

With strict diet and cardio for 45 mins a day, 6 days a week and working out 6 days a week, i lost 22 lbs taking in 5 months at 250 grams of carbs and 350 grams of protein cutting out everything i could manage without going insane.
tren/test cycle with 6 weeks of dbol to start and winny for the last 6 weeks, and 30 mins of cardio a day 5 days a week, and i lost more weight in the 8 weeks on tren then the 5 of good diet and cardio with the same diet. Tren incenerates fat!

I will def. Agree with bloke! I personally wouldnt mess with your T3, granted because you need stack it with other hormones to take full advantage. I personally believe T4 should always be taken with T3. T4 Speeds up the usage of T3 in the body and acts kind of as a support for the T3. The use of other gear along with these 2 hormones will greatly increase their effects as well.

To anwser your question, the best cutting product out there is diet and a journal to write down your progress and calorie, carb, fats, sugars and protein intake for everyday. The numbers will surprise you on how much less your actually eating of one and how much more your really eating of another! Cutters harden muscle bro, they dont make u lose weight! Diet and cardio makes you lose weight!

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Hey power, whats your dose of your T3/T4? If your allready getting perscribed it, why dont u speak with the physician who perscribed it to you and ask him to up your dose. BTW, i personally would never use clen! Dont really care for it!

2 a day cardio sessions are the best. 5-6 amid say take 8-10 grams of protein and drink it and run bro or gym it for an hour. Then again after your workout. Hit cardio after your body has been in fat burning mode! thats what way to do it!

 

[stevesmi]

run a catabolic diet and do cardio and you will lose weight.

it really isn't hard to do but people just aren't willing to do it.

 

[Power36]

I could ramp up my T3/T4, I have plenty of extra and my doc did ramp it up at one point to 7 grains, out of curiousity because I wasnt feeling it...we went from 1 grain to 7 grains, and I couldnt tell shit a difference...7 grains is a MEGA DOSE, and it didnt phase me....think it had something to do with my adrenal fatigue and other factors not being in order for the thyroid to be taking effect...Im on one grain now, dont know how else to tell you the dose thats what the dose comes in "Grains" ....

Im venturing a guess since Ive already had hormone issues and am doing pretty well now, I shouldnt screw with anymore thyroid hah....if it was a cut and dry issue and ramping up the dose would shred me up Id do it, but Ive been on a high dose and it didnt shred me up and make me feel anything, and the doc says normally folks find their level by feeling great, and when they go over they feel like they are having panic/anxiety attacks, so know to back off the dose

 

[hurricane]

test prop/var/t3

proper diet and exercise..

 

[hurricane]

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[canadianhitman]

I like the combination of a low dose of test (250mg of cyp weekly), 2iu of GH daily, 12.5mcg of T3 daily, and a low-carb diet personally. Throwing in a run of var at 40mg per day is a nice addition also.