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Free T3 230 (borderline according my docs nl levels)
TSH 2.0
I do hope that if it was/is from the competition diet that they will bounce back soon! It's been almost 3 months and it's making me a mental head case.
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Free T4 .5
Free T3 230 (borderline according my docs nl levels)
TSH 2.0
I do hope that if it was/is from the competition diet that they will bounce back soon! It's been almost 3 months and it's making me a mental head case.
I think you just described me! I feel like I walk into the gym and people look and think "whoa, what happened to her? She blew up like a whale!"
Did you taper off your t3? For men, it's not really much of an issue to taper, but for women it's a little different.
See - this is exactly my point! Why would people NEED to put themselves in a position with rebound and messed up electrolytes - when they can do it mainly with DIET?!?!? COFFEE! Dandelion root is EXTREMELY mild and a much better choice for some.
Great post! Thank you for making that point. It's what I was striving to do when I posted this thread!
Yes, I did taper on and off the t3
Tatyana
Elite Mentor
Ok, I need the units for the free T4 and T3 as the US doesn't use the international SI units.
Also, does it say free or total?
Your TSH will be 2.0 IU/L (I hope), which is fine.
Sorry,
Free T3 230 pg/dL (230-420 pg/dL normal range per dr)
Free T4 0.5 ng/dL (.8 - 1.8 ng/dL nl range per dr)
TSH - yes 2.0 IU/L
Tatyana
Elite Mentor
Both your free T4 and T3 are a wee bit on the low side, I would have them checked again in a month or two.
There is a huge amount of debate as which is the best measure of thyroid function, and most say the TSH is the most accurate measure, however in a much narrower range than a lot of labs cite, and yours is in that range.
When you were dieting were you dieting with low carbs?
Are you dieting with low carbs and/or low calories now?
Are you experiencing any symptoms?
If you are, it is possible to find a doctor who will treat you on both the low end of normal free T4 and T3 and the symptoms, however, you do have to remember that once you start, if you do think that you may not need thyroid med anymore, your thyroid will be suppressed (but it will recover).
When thyroxine is used as hormone replacement, it does mean that you will need several blood tests to get the levels right, the cost of the prescription, yearly or twice yearly blood tests as well as risks associated with taking too much thyroxine over a long period of time if your lower end of normal levels are just temporary.
Thyroxine overdose:
Anxiety
Confusion or disorientation
Feelings of a rapidly or forcefully beating heart (known as heart palpitations)
An irregular heart rhythm (arrhythmia)
High blood pressure (hypertension)
A rapid heart rate (tachycardia)
Seizures
Strokes
Coma
Death.
There is a huge amount of debate as which is the best measure of thyroid function, and most say the TSH is the most accurate measure, however in a much narrower range than a lot of labs cite, and yours is in that range.
When you were dieting were you dieting with low carbs?
Are you dieting with low carbs and/or low calories now?
Are you experiencing any symptoms?
If you are, it is possible to find a doctor who will treat you on both the low end of normal free T4 and T3 and the symptoms, however, you do have to remember that once you start, if you do think that you may not need thyroid med anymore, your thyroid will be suppressed (but it will recover).
When thyroxine is used as hormone replacement, it does mean that you will need several blood tests to get the levels right, the cost of the prescription, yearly or twice yearly blood tests as well as risks associated with taking too much thyroxine over a long period of time if your lower end of normal levels are just temporary.
Thyroxine overdose:
Anxiety
Confusion or disorientation
Feelings of a rapidly or forcefully beating heart (known as heart palpitations)
An irregular heart rhythm (arrhythmia)
High blood pressure (hypertension)
A rapid heart rate (tachycardia)
Seizures
Strokes
Coma
Death.
You might also try guggulsterone. Not for weight loss, but to stimulate your thyroid.
Guggulsterones - latest research by Nutriline.org
Guggulsterones
(Known as Commiphora Mukul, Gum Guggul, Guggulsterones)
*Hormone control
*Aids definition & fat loss
*Herbal
How does it work?
Guggulsterones are a mixture of several compounds isolated from the plant Commiphora Mukul (also called Gum Guggul). Carefully planned scientific studies show that guggulsterones reduce bodyweight, mostly due to their stimulating effect on the thyroid gland, which controls your metabolic rate.
Who is it used for?
Guggulsterones are useful for anyone who wants to lose weight, particularly for those who have been trying to lose weight for some time. Unlike supplements such as ephedrine, guggulsterones do not stimulate the nervous system, and are generally considered to be one of the safest supplements available.
How does it work?
Carefully planned scientific studies show that guggulsterones are highly effective at accelerating fat loss, mainly due to their stimulating effect on the thyroid gland. The thyroid hormones are among the most important hormones. They control your metabolic rate, which dictates how many calories you burn each day. When your metabolic rate slows down, which it does when you go on a diet, you automatically burn fewer calories each day. This means that the rate at which you lose weight slows down [5].
However, guggulsterones naturally stimulate the activity of the thyroid gland, returning your metabolic rate to where it should be. This means that weight loss becomes faster and easier, as your body naturally burns more calories each day. In one study carried in the journal Current Therapeutic Research, test subjects using a supplement containing guggulsterones lost fat three times faster compared to those using diet and exercise alone [1].
Following the six-week program, the group using the guggulsterone-based supplement lost 9.5 pounds of fat, compared to 3.1 pounds in those who just followed the diet and exercise programme. When the research team measured thyroid activity in three of the subjects, they found an 8-10% increase in thyroid hormone levels.
Guggulsterones are considered to be one of the safest supplements available, and do not stimulate the nervous system in the same way as products like ephedrine. They're also approved in India for lowering elevated cholesterol and triglyceride levels [2, 4]. Studies show that guggulsterones lower triglycerides and cholesterol as well as LDL and VLDL cholesterol (the "bad" cholesterol) [3]. At the same time, it raises levels of HDL cholesterol (the "good" cholesterol).
How do I use it?
A common intake of guggulsterones is 25 milligrams three times per day, in the form of Guggul extract standardised to 10% guggulsterones.
What results can I expect?
The effect of guggulsterones on weight loss usually becomes noticeable after 10-14 days. When guggulsterones are combined with other compounds (see below), you can expect to reach your weight loss goals a lot more quickly.
What can it be combined with?
Some experts recommend that guggulsterones be combined with Forskolin, a plant extract taken from the roots of the Coleus Forskohlii plant. Both of these compounds work in a slightly different way, and will make weight loss faster and easier when combined with a controlled-calorie diet and programme of regular exercise.
1. Antonio, J., Colker, C.M., Torina, G.C., & Shi, Q., Brink, W.D., & Kalman, D. (1999). Effects of a standardized guggulsterone phosphate supplement on body composition in overweight adults: A pilot study. Current Therapeutic Research Clinical and Experimental, 60, 220-227
2. Satyavati GV.(1988). Gum guggul (Commiphora mukul)-The success of an ancient insight leading to a modern discovery. Indian Journal of Medicine, 87, 327-335
3. Nityanand S, Kapoor NK. (1971). Hypocholesterolemic effect of Commiphora mukul resin (Guggal). Indian Journal of Experimental Biology, 9, 367-77
4. Singh K, Chander R, Kapoor NK. (1997). Guggulsterone, a potent hypolipidaemic, prevents oxidation of low density lipoprotein. Phytotherapy Research, 11, 291-294
5. Rosenbaum, M., Hirsch, J., & Leibel, R.L. (2000). Effects of changes in body weight on carbohydrate metabolism, catecholamine excretion, and thyroid function. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 71, 1421-1432
Guggulsterones - latest research by Nutriline.org
Guggulsterones
(Known as Commiphora Mukul, Gum Guggul, Guggulsterones)
*Hormone control
*Aids definition & fat loss
*Herbal
How does it work?
Guggulsterones are a mixture of several compounds isolated from the plant Commiphora Mukul (also called Gum Guggul). Carefully planned scientific studies show that guggulsterones reduce bodyweight, mostly due to their stimulating effect on the thyroid gland, which controls your metabolic rate.
Who is it used for?
Guggulsterones are useful for anyone who wants to lose weight, particularly for those who have been trying to lose weight for some time. Unlike supplements such as ephedrine, guggulsterones do not stimulate the nervous system, and are generally considered to be one of the safest supplements available.
How does it work?
Carefully planned scientific studies show that guggulsterones are highly effective at accelerating fat loss, mainly due to their stimulating effect on the thyroid gland. The thyroid hormones are among the most important hormones. They control your metabolic rate, which dictates how many calories you burn each day. When your metabolic rate slows down, which it does when you go on a diet, you automatically burn fewer calories each day. This means that the rate at which you lose weight slows down [5].
However, guggulsterones naturally stimulate the activity of the thyroid gland, returning your metabolic rate to where it should be. This means that weight loss becomes faster and easier, as your body naturally burns more calories each day. In one study carried in the journal Current Therapeutic Research, test subjects using a supplement containing guggulsterones lost fat three times faster compared to those using diet and exercise alone [1].
Following the six-week program, the group using the guggulsterone-based supplement lost 9.5 pounds of fat, compared to 3.1 pounds in those who just followed the diet and exercise programme. When the research team measured thyroid activity in three of the subjects, they found an 8-10% increase in thyroid hormone levels.
Guggulsterones are considered to be one of the safest supplements available, and do not stimulate the nervous system in the same way as products like ephedrine. They're also approved in India for lowering elevated cholesterol and triglyceride levels [2, 4]. Studies show that guggulsterones lower triglycerides and cholesterol as well as LDL and VLDL cholesterol (the "bad" cholesterol) [3]. At the same time, it raises levels of HDL cholesterol (the "good" cholesterol).
How do I use it?
A common intake of guggulsterones is 25 milligrams three times per day, in the form of Guggul extract standardised to 10% guggulsterones.
What results can I expect?
The effect of guggulsterones on weight loss usually becomes noticeable after 10-14 days. When guggulsterones are combined with other compounds (see below), you can expect to reach your weight loss goals a lot more quickly.
What can it be combined with?
Some experts recommend that guggulsterones be combined with Forskolin, a plant extract taken from the roots of the Coleus Forskohlii plant. Both of these compounds work in a slightly different way, and will make weight loss faster and easier when combined with a controlled-calorie diet and programme of regular exercise.
1. Antonio, J., Colker, C.M., Torina, G.C., & Shi, Q., Brink, W.D., & Kalman, D. (1999). Effects of a standardized guggulsterone phosphate supplement on body composition in overweight adults: A pilot study. Current Therapeutic Research Clinical and Experimental, 60, 220-227
2. Satyavati GV.(1988). Gum guggul (Commiphora mukul)-The success of an ancient insight leading to a modern discovery. Indian Journal of Medicine, 87, 327-335
3. Nityanand S, Kapoor NK. (1971). Hypocholesterolemic effect of Commiphora mukul resin (Guggal). Indian Journal of Experimental Biology, 9, 367-77
4. Singh K, Chander R, Kapoor NK. (1997). Guggulsterone, a potent hypolipidaemic, prevents oxidation of low density lipoprotein. Phytotherapy Research, 11, 291-294
5. Rosenbaum, M., Hirsch, J., & Leibel, R.L. (2000). Effects of changes in body weight on carbohydrate metabolism, catecholamine excretion, and thyroid function. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 71, 1421-1432
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