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what happens if u dont eat carbs post workout?

carbs post workout are responsible of an insulin spike
it will allow amino acids to be synthetised as muscles
 
I used to have no carbs preworkout
then carbs and whey post

I switched to carbs preworkout and just whey post.

Works better much better I believe. If you ingest some carbs right before you should still be riding an insulin high when you return to ingest protein.
 
Dextrose purpose is for the insulin spike and replenishing muscle glycogen. If you don't consume it the whey will be used for this, and a lot of it wasted.
 
by not consuming carbs post workout you are extending the period of time until glycogen stores are replenished. and the added benefits of the insulin spike which forces nutrients into the muscles.
 
are there any food carbs that are recommened in place of dextrose, just for the time being till i get a hold of some dextrose.

thanks
 
You're inhibiting recovery by prolonging the time it takes to replenish muscle glycogen and strart protein synthesis.
 
I agree... why would you want to slow down the time it takes to replenish your muscles, especially after a workout where you're most catabolic?
 
what do you guys take pre-workout ?

i know your supposed to take carbs/protein but from what sources, dextrose and whey? i know post workout dextrose and whey is great.
 
choice 1: I eat something solid, high in carbs and moderate protein, 1 hour before.

option 2 is milk w/ cassein and flax half hour before.
 
Ingesting carbohydrates after a workout is essential. If you're not, your body will be forced to utilize muscle as a source of fuel.
Ingesting high glycemic carbohydrates post workout will allow you to jump start glycogen synthesis, restoring the glycogen that's been drained from your workout. Along with that, the high blood-glucose level will allow for an insulin release, acting as a nutrient shuttler to your muscle cells.
Ingesting protein workout is just as important, or else you won't begin protein synthesis, and recovery will be a slow process.
That post workout shake or meal is essential to recovery and growth!!!!
 
I like ANthrax's comments

They reason to carbs post workout is to spike insulin, but it depends on your goals. You trying to cut up, grow mass, what? Your DIET is the KEY!
 
well wut if cutting and eating low carbs every day? what is better to have ,,oatmealw/ whey... sugar> or just whey? well i know people that are cutting and say it is necessary to have dextrose after weights if your dont want to lose muscle do to the low carbs your are currently consuming..
 
Low carbs after you workout

Well I would stay away from oatmeal and sugar in the morning, stay LOW if cutting...just whey or a Meal replacement. After the workout is key to have carbs, you have to get the insilin up. I would take your highest amount of carbs after your workout, but break it up say 25-50-25 (immediatley-1hour after-3hours after) or something like that. Carbs at bedtime are a NO NO!
 
so i mean eat just oatmeal after weights w/whey or whey w/dextrose....im eating fairly low carbs but what about fat intake while low carbing..increase it/?
 
Your fat intake should be the same as your carb intake roughly. Say you weigh 150lbs well if your cutting I would teast your BF and find your lean muscle % then take that amount and time it by .3 or .35 and youd get you carba nd fat intake on your maintance days, when training bump you carbs to times .5 and leave the fat the same. That's what I do..and like I said before more carbs after workout and less/non B4 bed.
 
carbs are stored as glycogen in two places in the body.
1.in muscle for quick anerobic fuel source
2. 85% of glycogen is stored in the liver

if your stores of glycogen are compeletly gone...you die. your brain and nervous system run on carbs. The only way to burn stored carbs as energy is through glycolosis- anerobic exercise. When you jog on a tredmil-the first 2 minutes relies on carbs as fuel source. After that you start to shift into fat metabolism. This is one of the biggest misconceptions of this board. Your body doesn't function on carbs and when it runs out starts on fat. This is a myth. to tell if you are doing anerobic or aerobic activity...this depends on how much oxyegen you are using effectivly. There is something called a rq level (respiratory quoteint)- normally as we are walking around at rest it is at .70-indicating fat as the major fuel source- when we are sprinting it may go up to 1.0 and that will indicate carbs as a primary fuel source.
-exercise physiology, Illinois state university

i would love to argue this point further if someone wants to
 
Eating carbs after workout is ideal- carbs are muscle sparing, afterexercise you are more depleted than at rest(not fully depleted) it makes sense to injest carbs after exercise.
 
im cutting and eat only oatmeal as my carb in the morning..thats 20 grams...after weights can i have 30 grams of carbs like sweettarts and whey 20grams? and still lose fat?
 
not only are you hampering you bodys ability to replenish glycogen stores but a diet that low in carbs in just plan unhealthy.
 
FitnessFrk said:
not only are you hampering you bodys ability to replenish glycogen stores but a diet that low in carbs in just plan unhealthy.

WHAT?

Do read any medical studies out there? Do some research when on your on the Inet next time! "God must love stupid people cuz he sure made a lot of you!"

Missyd143, I wouldn't hardley any carbs exect after workouts. When you work out (morning, noon, night)??? I would do this eat like 3 grams of carbs until you workout per meal, then eat quad that right after a workout, then 1 hour later double that, and about 2.5 hours later bring it down to you post workout carb hit. Try staying away from carbs before bed again.
 
Well not only do I have a degree in Kinesiology but I regularly attend seminars on sports nutrition and human performance.

You are a complete jackass if you think eating 20 grams of carbs a day is healthy. If you follow the same diet, have fun getting sick all the time !
 
FitnessFrk said:
Well not only do I have a degree in Kinesiology but I regularly attend seminars on sports nutrition and human performance.

You are a complete jackass if you think eating 20 grams of carbs a day is healthy. If you follow the same diet, have fun getting sick all the time !

I would never say eat 20 carbs a day, my post never mentions that! It's all proportional to your Lean Muscle Mass. Nor would I recommend ANYONE low carbing longer than 4/6 weeks. Cutting is valuable phass and when you lower your carbs you have intake more protein and fat, but I am sure you knew that since you have a degree in Kinesiology right ;-)

I trust none of clinical studies have no bases then...interesting. I guess the whole world of bodybuilding is wrong, go figure huh!

WHATEVER! If one chooses to not educate himself then it is no concern of mine. I am only giving advice, not laying out nutrtion programs.
 
If you look at the question that missy posted she states that she only eats 20 grams of carbs a day and is wondering if an additional 30 post workout will hamper fat loss. Of course it won't, no matter how much lean muscle mass a person has. 30 grams of simple carbs is a minute amount unless you are 1 foot tall and weigh 20 lbs. Those 30 grams of simple carbohydrates will be used to replenish glycogen, end of story.

There is no reason for carb intake to be so low. There is no reason to deprive the body of such an essential nutrient such as carbohydrates. Homeostasis CAN NOT be maintained on such a low intake of carbohydrates, especially for someone who participates in a strenuous athletic event like weight training.

It is plain and simple, such extreme diet practices are unhealthy and unnecessary. If you actually knew anything about sports nutrition and human performance you would know that a balanced diet of protein, complex low GI/GR carbs and good fats is the healthiest method for CONTINUED positive athletic performance and fat loss.

You can lose body fat using a 30/50/20 if the majority (85%) of carbs are complex low GI/GR. You can train the body to use less glycogen during exercise and a higher percentage of body fat.

Your ignorant comment regarding the world of bodybuilding being wrong is to funny. Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows there are a plethora of unhealthy dieting practices in the world of bodybuilding. Why follow them if you are not a competitor, will never set foot on a stage and have nothing to gain financially by putting undue stress on your body.

For the majority of us, the point of weight training and eating healthy is to improve the quality of life, not to torture oneself to lose a little more body fat a little faster.

Get my drift...
 
I understand better what you mean, however I you can can do it on a say 60/20/20 or variation of it. The undo torture is not longer term, just a short 4 weeks to "cut" Then you go back to feeding the muscle. I hear your point...and if one had the right metabolism maybe your program would work. I disagree with it and I will leave it at that....anyone on the board can follow whatever diet they want...it's there choice, there body.
 
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