Vote: My Deads single or triple what shall i do?

[ExtraMile]

So heres whats happening.

3 weeks ago pulled 292 x 4 form was off and lower back a bit rounded
2 weeks ago dropped it back to 286 x 3 and was gonna go from there as I could keep the good form
1 week ago tryed for 292 x 3 again looking to pull it with good form. Managed it but 3rd rep was like a max rep form was off only just managed to lock it out

So as you can probably tell this is converted from KG which is what the weights are here, and 140kg is 3 plates, 292lbs is 132.5kg. So yes Im very close to 3 plates over here.

Now originally I was gonna just keep adding 2.5kg (5lbs) untill I got up to 3 plates which should be the end of october or the 3rd week of october. By then strength will have probably continued to drop and I will only pull 308 for 1 or 2 reps.

So who thinks I should carry on like this and try to get to 3 plates but form will be probably suffering.

Other option would be this tuesday just say fuck it put my belt on and load up 3 plates and try and get the fucker up. Then drop it back and go back to sets of 6 reps with better form. Deadlifting 3 plates (140kg) is a priority right now

Btw, I tryed to pull 3plates back in July and got it up to like 3 inch below the knee. I went onto the 5x5 spreadhseet and it calculated my 1rm to be 141kg if I could put 292 x 3.

What are you all thinking? Please dont say deload now

 

[joe d]

So heres whats happening.

3 weeks ago pulled 292 x 4 form was off and lower back a bit rounded
2 weeks ago dropped it back to 286 x 3 and was gonna go from there as I could keep the good form
1 week ago tryed for 292 x 3 again looking to pull it with good form. Managed it but 3rd rep was like a max rep form was off only just managed to lock it out

So as you can probably tell this is converted from KG which is what the weights are here, and 140kg is 3 plates, 292lbs is 132.5kg. So yes Im very close to 3 plates over here.

Now originally I was gonna just keep adding 2.5kg (5lbs) untill I got up to 3 plates which should be the end of october or the 3rd week of october. By then strength will have probably continued to drop and I will only pull 308 for 1 or 2 reps.

So who thinks I should carry on like this and try to get to 3 plates but form will be probably suffering.

Other option would be this tuesday just say fuck it put my belt on and load up 3 plates and try and get the fucker up. Then drop it back and go back to sets of 6 reps with better form. Deadlifting 3 plates (140kg) is a priority right now

Btw, I tryed to pull 3plates back in July and got it up to like 3 inch below the knee. I went onto the 5x5 spreadhseet and it calculated my 1rm to be 141kg if I could put 292 x 3.

What are you all thinking? Please dont say deload now

i say quit trying to max

or if your going to do it then walk in the gym and quickly build up to it work your way up with 3 build up sets of 2 reps each. then hit the 3 plates

 

[SaiBoT]

I say work it for singles now leave the other reps in the tank.

 

[ExtraMile]

i say quit trying to max

or if your going to do it then walk in the gym and quickly build up to it work your way up with 3 build up sets of 2 reps each. then hit the 3 plates

yes after this Im not maxing, without even realised I have been maxing for a few months now every week, just the poundages caught up on me. What would be an example of building up to 308? Somthing like
132 x 2
190 x 2
250 x 2
308 x 1

????

 

[joe d]

yes after this Im not maxing, without even realised I have been maxing for a few months now every week, just the poundages caught up on me. What would be an example of building up to 308? Somthing like
132 x 2
190 x 2
250 x 2
308 x 1

????

that looks good

 

[ExtraMile]

I say work it for singles now leave the other reps in the tank.

so still progress with 5lbs at a time but just for a single?

this week - 297 x 1
next week - 303 x 1
2 weeks - 308 x 1

that will be my progression if I do that

 

[SouthernLord]

so still progress with 5lbs at a time but just for a single?

this week - 297 x 1
next week - 303 x 1
2 weeks - 308 x 1

that will be my progression if I do that

Just go in and fucking pull that shit.

132x5
190x1
250x1
308x1

 

[SaiBoT]

Honestly i want you to kill that shit, but if you fail don't bring your journal down with tears lol.

 

[artificialaspirations]

Just go in and fucking pull that shit.

132x5
190x1
250x1
308x1

I second this progression. 308 is in the bag. Just pull it, get it out of your system and go back to work.

 

[moya]

132x5
190x3
250x1
308x1

 

[skullcrushin22]

If 308 is bugging you that much then I would say just pull it and then get your form perfect. If there is an exercise you dont want to have bad form with I would say its the deadlift.

 

[ExtraMile]

Im beginning to think fuck maxing w/ 308. I know if I miss them Ill feel like shit, I may even skip back that day I dunno but Ill be pissed as hell.

And in the back of my mind Iv got a feeling I wont make it. Im loosing strength on deads every week, maybe if the week after I got 292 x 4 i had tryed for 308 then yes but its too late for that now. And even so 308 isnt my main goal, my main goal was 315...

If I drop it down in weight Ill probably go back up to 6 reps instead of 1-3...

 

[needtogetaas]

Honestly i want you to kill that shit, but if you fail don't bring your journal down with tears lol.

lmao ya

 

[seath242]

Instead of just doing normal deadlifts try switching it up ... do some rack pulls or some platform pulls .... those exercises will get you deadlifting some serious weight

 

[artificialaspirations]

I think your strength may be falling because you are doing a BB routine. Are you cutting cals? if you can do 292 three times, you can certainly lift 16 more for 1.

 

[moya]

I think your strength may be falling because you are doing a BB routine. Are you cutting cals? if you can do 292 three times, you can certainly lift 16 more for 1.

exactly... just eat a shitload of carbs the night before, and the day of your attempt...
and go for the 315... you WILL get it if you are carbed up and focused...

 

[ExtraMile]

I think your strength may be falling because you are doing a BB routine. Are you cutting cals? if you can do 292 three times, you can certainly lift 16 more for 1.

Not exactly cutting cals but controlling carbs and fat. Cardio 3-5 times a week. So far I have been setting PR's every workout though. My big 3 have had a history to do this, go up in weigth alot over a short amount of time, then I start to loose it for a while, then it hoveres around the same weight for a long time. This has happened twice before on each of the big 3.

I dont think I will go for the 308, depends how I feel on the day. Southern Lord suggested dropping to 265 x 5 then adding 10lbs each workout untill I cant, if I stall and only manage 3 one workout then add 5lbs each week and go from there. I think I will do this unless I feel strong tomorrow...

 

[b fold the truth]

If you want to pull 3 plates...then pull 3 plates.

But then...what are you doing to INCREASE your deadlift????????? Deadlifts???

When I want to pull a 1RM I'll pull:
1 plate x 1
3 plates x 1 x 2 sets
5 plates x 1
6 plates x 1
7 plates x 1
8 plates x 1

Of course this is usually after some light stretching, warm ups, and quite often after hard box squats too.

 

[the_alcatraz]

There are a few exercises in bodybuilding were form is very important and throwing form out the door can get your seriously hurt. Squats and Deads are on top of that list.

 

[b fold the truth]

There are a few exercises in bodybuilding were form is very important and throwing form out the door can get your seriously hurt. Squats and Deads are on top of that list.

Out of curiosity...how does it differ from a bodybuilder to a strength athlete?

Form is great...but isn't just the matter of "keeping form". I'd say that 95%+ of all "bodybuilders" fail to correctly assess their weaknesses. And I don't mean "weaknesses on stage" but 99%+ of the people who call themselves bodybuilders will never see a stage except in pictures...

I look better than a lot of actual bodybuilders in this country simply because they do not train heavy and hard with compound exercises. Truth is...they CAN'T because they haven't spent any time working on their core strength, rotators, erectors, abs, hips, and hamstrings properly.

And doing those exercises get them "out of proportion"? Unless small is a proportion, it isn't a problem.

 

[ExtraMile]

But then...what are you doing to INCREASE your deadlift????????? Deadlifts???

Im not sure what you mean here, if you mean what deadlift assistance exercises do I do then:
Romanian Deadlifts
Full Squats
Walking DB Lunges
Heavy Ass Dumbell Rows
Grip/Forearm Work
Ab Work

 

[ExtraMile]

I made the lift, chucked on my belt + chalk and ripped that shit up, check my log ill put it on there in a bit...

 

[the.gladiator1987]

dude i think u r doing too much assistance if your big 3 arent going up.

 

[ExtraMile]

dude i think u r doing too much assistance if your big 3 arent going up.

my big 3 are going up.

heres the exercises I do

Chest - flat BB, incline DB, cable cross
Back - deads, one arm row, chins
Legs - ATG squats, RDL, leg extensions, calves
Shoulders - seated press, laterals supersetted with front raises
Tri's - deep dips, overhead extensions supersetted with pushdowns
Bi's - chins, bb curl, machine preacher

sometimes after legs I will do 1 heavy set of walking db lunges round the gym.

hardly too much really? each exercise is 3 sets of each, with the exception being rows and dips. I do 5 sets of dips and 4 sets of rows.

 

[future]

How about changing the exercise for a few weeks like rack pulls/partials, romanian deads, dumbell deads, sumo deads or deads from a box?

 

[ExtraMile]

How about changing the exercise for a few weeks like rack pulls/partials, romanian deads, dumbell deads, sumo deads or deads from a box?

i already do RDL on leg day, but I have been thinking about doing rackpulls. Should i switch now? or wait till i cant progress?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Wait till you cant progress, I saw that u got 308 up. Good job.

And i thought I read that ur big 3 werent going up. Keep doing what ur doing then

 

[ExtraMile]

Wait till you cant progress, I saw that u got 308 up. Good job.

And i thought I read that ur big 3 werent going up. Keep doing what ur doing then

squats its hard to tell, I will find out this thursday.

bro for weeks now I have been setting PR's on almost every lift every workout.

Today I did back and forearms and set a PR on every lift I did, some lifts I set two pr's on lol.

Whens your next EF remix comin out?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

squats its hard to tell, I will find out this thursday.

bro for weeks now I have been setting PR's on almost every lift every workout.

Today I did back and forearms and set a PR on every lift I did, some lifts I set two pr's on lol.

Whens your next EF remix comin out?

Damn, good job! Well keep doin what ur doin, fuck u will be strong

Idk man i might make an EF remix to my remix and apologize to everyone, but thats boring and nice haha. BUt I seriously wanna get along with everyone over in chat.

 

[ExtraMile]

Damn, good job! Well keep doin what ur doin, fuck u will be strong

Idk man i might make an EF remix to my remix and apologize to everyone, but thats boring and nice haha. BUt I seriously wanna get along with everyone over in chat.

yeah i just saw latinos called u gay and u didnt say shit. Man it was funny I think you should carry on. And put me in the next song.

did u try farmers btw?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

yeah i just saw latinos called u gay and u didnt say shit. Man it was funny I think you should carry on. And put me in the next song.

did u try farmers btw?

Im trying farmers tmr for shoulder day. They look intense haha. HOw much do you use?

Yea well lart is a player so i might as well get advice from the guy instead of calling him gay (he is kind of a fag but he gets laid)

 

[ExtraMile]

Im trying farmers tmr for shoulder day. They look intense haha. HOw much do you use?

Yea well lart is a player so i might as well get advice from the guy instead of calling him gay (he is kind of a fag but he gets laid)

well he says he gets laid...

I did 88's for 3 lengths of my gym on friday. next time i do them Ill film it to show you roughly the distance. Big Bk does somewhere in the region of 315 in each hand for 50 feet. Check his log all his numbers are in there. but Big BK has a freaky grip...

 

[the.gladiator1987]

well he says he gets laid...

I did 88's for 3 lengths of my gym on friday. next time i do them Ill film it to show you roughly the distance. Big Bk does somewhere in the region of 315 in each hand for 50 feet. Check his log all his numbers are in there. but Big BK has a freaky grip...

Its possible to grip 315 in one hand? wtf?