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mesco said:
mc12 is more exclusive and rare

MC12 is a detuned Enzo. Same engine but they lowered the specs not to hurt the Enzo reputation. An Enzo will cost you more. Still I'd get a Veyron, street legal, AWD, all kind of goodies inside and most powerful beast on the roads.
 
first off i will tell you my friend is the largest fish distributor in the u.s. he has a better car collection than ralph lauren. he has one of five black gt carrera porsche's and an enzo. the gt carrera hits 50 just from letting off the fucking clutch it is insane. it will eat alive any of those beefed up cars so will the enzo. just they cost 600gs to a million. aside from that there is no car closer to a race car than the saleen S7. this comes from the mouth of jay leno, mario andretti a long list of car aficianodos
 
get a pinto damn it.

then again, please explain why you need anything over 100hp in a Country where you cannot legally use your car as it was meant to be?

final thought... all this talk about HP this and HP that, with no mention of TORQUE is useless... people BUY HP and ride Torque.... Torque is what makes a car exciting and fun to drive
 
very true. that is why the subaru sti is so awesome. 300 lbs of torque to the wheels. so much low end torque. it will eat cars alive that have 120 more horse
 
pintoca said:
get a pinto damn it.

then again, please explain why you need anything over 100hp in a Country where you cannot legally use your car as it was meant to be?

final thought... all this talk about HP this and HP that, with no mention of TORQUE is useless... people BUY HP and ride Torque.... Torque is what makes a car exciting and fun to drive


Viper: 8.3 liter V-10, 500 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 525 ft lb , 712 Nm @ 4,200 rpm. I think its torque is probably adequate.

You think someone who buys a car like this adheres rigidly to the posted speed limits??? :rolleyes: Please, you can do better than that stale, facile argument.
 
Mr. dB said:
Viper: 8.3 liter V-10, 500 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 525 ft lb , 712 Nm @ 4,200 rpm. I think its torque is probably adequate.

You think someone who buys a car like this adheres rigidly to the posted speed limits??? :rolleyes: Please, you can do better than that stale, facile argument.

712Nm @ 4200 is sure nice, how many RPM before redline? up to 7000? 8000?

is there a torque graph somewhere? how much of it is available in the low range? does it drop like a stone beyond 4500rpm?

I understand fines are hefty... what happens if you get too many? can they take your DL away?
 
WTF Pintoca, you drive a mini... STFU~! (yeah so what I drive a 7000lb diesel truck)

ever driven the European version of the diesel jetta? 150hp stock, compared to the 90-100 hp in the US.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
WTF Pintoca, you drive a mini... STFU~! (yeah so what I drive a 7000lb diesel truck)

ever driven the European version of the diesel jetta? 150hp stock, compared to the 90-100 hp in the US.

not anymore, I changed it about a month ago
 
bruce410 said:
first off i will tell you my friend is the largest fish distributor in the u.s. he has a better car collection than ralph lauren. he has one of five black gt carrera porsche's and an enzo. the gt carrera hits 50 just from letting off the fucking clutch it is insane. it will eat alive any of those beefed up cars so will the enzo. just they cost 600gs to a million. aside from that there is no car closer to a race car than the saleen S7. this comes from the mouth of jay leno, mario andretti a long list of car aficianodos

i dont mean to rain on your story but having a cgt and an enzo is shit compared to ralph laurens collection. dude, hes got 3 mclaren f1's including one of the 5 lm versions, a carrera gt, ferrari gto, 250 testarossa, bugatti type 57SC atlantic coupe, jaguar XKD, a porsche 550 spyder and a ton of other rare old race cars and modern day supercars.

also the cgt doesnt cost anywhere near 600k to a million, you could get one for around 350k now and even when they first came out they were not much over 400k. the enzo on the other hand, you can pick up a used one for between 900k-1.5 mill.
 
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