Var - primo-depot cycle

[havenlock]

I've a bunch of searching and I wanted to get some opinions for everybody here about this cycle.

My main goal is to keep side effects minimal and retain muscle while losing fat.

I thinking of runnin' var for 8 weeks at 40mg ED and stack it with Primo Depot at 200 mg (weekly).

What are your thoughts? Anybody have good experience with this. This is more of a starter cycle for me.

Stats are 27y/o, 6'0, 200lbs, about 18%bf

Thanks everyone

 

[havenlock]

Well, I did some more research on this and other forums and it looks like everybody pretty much rolls there eyes at a cycle like this.

I just want something that will help me gain a few lbs while I'm trying to lean out a bit. I've read that a test only cycle is a good first cycle but I'm not aiming for size right now.

I've also read that a lot of the primo is faked as is the var. So I guess we'll see.

 

[cydex01]

Test only for you first cycle will be great. How you eat and how you train (weight and cardio) determines whether your put on muscle or burn off fat. Test will be plenty to hold on to your current muscle will you diet down.

cydex01

 

[havenlock]

Cydex- thanks for the response. I think I'm going to run the tes prop @ 50 ED for 8 weeks and run var for 12 weeks at 40mg ED.

As for PCT, Nolvadex @ 20mg ED and Clomid therapy beginning at week 3.

How does that sound?

H

 

[jokerswild]

Cydex- thanks for the response. I think I'm going to run the tes prop @ 50 ED for 8 weeks and run var for 12 weeks at 40mg ED.

As for PCT, Nolvadex @ 20mg ED and Clomid therapy beginning at week 3.

How does that sound?

H

You won't make it the whole cycle shooting Prop everyday, the pain will get the best of you before you make 60 shots in a row.....

 

[cydex01]

If you can handle shooting the prop ED, sounds like you have a solid cycle to hold on to some muscle while you diet and cardio down.

I don't quite understand what you mean when you say you'll begin your PCT "at week 3." A nolva only PCT will probably be fine for this cycle, but you need to start it on the 3rd day after your last anavar dosage.

cydex01

 

[havenlock]

I was thinking of running Test Prop at 100mg EOD.

Nolva is definitely in there. Plan to follow the clomid therapy schedule for test prop (3 days after adminstering for 3 weeks).

Thoughts?

Thanks everyone

 

[damachine]

I was thinking of running Test Prop at 100mg EOD.

Nolva is definitely in there. Plan to follow the clomid therapy schedule for test prop (3 days after adminstering for 3 weeks).

Thoughts?

Thanks everyone

prop works really well @ 100mg eod i did that my last cycle and made really good gains. you may want to think of throwing tbol in there in place of the var.

 

[havenlock]

That's funny that you would say that because I was going to do that. I've heard of some sides from running T-bol for a full 10-12 weeks so I was thinking of running it 6. Should I do that during the first or last 6?

Thoughts?

Thanks again

 

[nsashbl01]

Bro, I would really not start your first cycle with that much fat. I have seen too many guys start gear when they were thick, and never got lean for the long run. The gear will make you much thicker when you add the needed calories to let it do it's job. Learn to stay no more than 10 - 14% bf without drugs. Then you will get more and keep more.

Take it for what it's worth, Just my .02

 

[havenlock]

Thanks for the advice nsash...

I was actually high on my originally estimate. It's close to 13. I'm going to get it down closer to 11 and then do a straight test cycle.

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.