Var & my wife

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Great thread and good advice here. I just today got some Var for my wife also.

BW1 you mention that 15mgs/ED seemed to have best effect. That's interesting as I was going to start her also on 5mgs/ED but knowing that will make the jump up easier if needed.

 

[bw1]

Great thread and good advice here. I just today got some Var for my wife also.

BW1 you mention that 15mgs/ED seemed to have best effect. That's interesting as I was going to start her also on 5mgs/ED but knowing that will make the jump up easier if needed.

Sounds good, although i'd be willing to bet she ends up bumping up the dose

 

[the_alcatraz]

This will probably get better reviews and answers here.

 

[ironwings]

Start with 5mg for 2 - 3 weeks then up to 10mg. I've done 5mg all the way up to 20mg. Everyone responds differently but for her first cycle 5 - 10 is more than plenty. 7 weeks is ok for her first cycle. I personally like to run 8 - 10 but again first cycle is always a little bit of a trial. I've run all the way up to 15 weeks but it was WAY too long and would never do it again. My hormones were raging and I was miserable when I went off.

Diet is key while on Var if you want all the benefits. Don't even put your body through it if your diet isn't 100%. Macro's should be just right to get the most of the aas. I'm sure you already have preached this. It IS MORE important than the Var itself.

No pct. I do always go through hormonal changes when I go off and they can be rough (on me and those around me) but that is mostly due to the mix of my birth control - which I am not willing to go off while on cycle. Her menstrual cycle will be a little crazy while on but at 14% bf she may not have one now - that is competition low. Most women do not stay at that % for very long - your organs need fat to sustain themselves.

We'd love to have her join and post up - give her my best.

 

[bblazer]

Start with 5mg for 2 - 3 weeks then up to 10mg. I've done 5mg all the way up to 20mg. Everyone responds differently but for her first cycle 5 - 10 is more than plenty. 7 weeks is ok for her first cycle. I personally like to run 8 - 10 but again first cycle is always a little bit of a trial. I've run all the way up to 15 weeks but it was WAY too long and would never do it again. My hormones were raging and I was miserable when I went off.

Diet is key while on Var if you want all the benefits. Don't even put your body through it if your diet isn't 100%. Macro's should be just right to get the most of the aas. I'm sure you already have preached this. It IS MORE important than the Var itself.

No pct. I do always go through hormonal changes when I go off and they can be rough (on me and those around me) but that is mostly due to the mix of my birth control - which I am not willing to go off while on cycle. Her menstrual cycle will be a little crazy while on but at 14% bf she may not have one now - that is competition low. Most women do not stay at that % for very long - your organs need fat to sustain themselves.

We'd love to have her join and post up - give her my best.

Thanks for the response!

A few years ago she had a hysterectomy (total) and is on an HRT cocktail of estrogen, test, and progesterone. The only other drug she takes is 200 mcg of cytomel. What I have read is that Var will play with thyroid testing, but not much is said if it is actually the test that is skewed, or the thyroid levels themselves. We still need to research that.

14% bf is her average. Just a born athlete. Someday I would love to get her VO2 max tested. It has to be sky high.

Thanks again!

B-

 

[ironwings]

Thanks for the response!

A few years ago she had a hysterectomy (total) and is on an HRT cocktail of estrogen, test, and progesterone. The only other drug she takes is 200 mcg of cytomel. What I have read is that Var will play with thyroid testing, but not much is said if it is actually the test that is skewed, or the thyroid levels themselves. We still need to research that.

14% bf is her average. Just a born athlete. Someday I would love to get her VO2 max tested. It has to be sky high.

Thanks again!

B-

Tat - any thoughts?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

My wife is considering a trip to the dark side. She is 38, 6' 1" 155 lbs and 14% bf (DEXA scan). A former pro volleyball player she is no n00b in the gym, and probably puts is more time there than I do. Not BBing, but more "Body for Life" and pilates. A few years ago she had a hysterectomy and is on HRT that includes estrogen, test, and some progesterone. Her diet is not perfect, but significantly better than most Wisconsin wimmins.

Anyway, we have been doing some research and it looks like Var at 5mg/day for 7 weeks is the right option. She wants to lean out more, and develop more lean muscle and definition (her thighs are nearly as big as mine from all that volleyball).

One thing we don't see much of is info on PCT for women. Obviously there is little concern here to get natty test levels back to normal, and Var is even less of an issue in that regard. However, are there other PCT or even on cycle things that women should be concerned about. Obviously with the choice of Var, she is helping prevent virilization and other masculinizing effects. I haven't seen much in the literature to suggest it will play much if any havoc with her HRT, but I'm still not sold on that. She does take 200mcg Cytomel/day and we are aware Var will play with the testing of thyroid levels, but to what extent we haven't quite figured out yet.

If anyone could chime in here and fill in these last few gaps I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!

B-

5MG is a good dose to start at IMO but I prefer longer cycles closer to 12-16 weeks to see signifcant gains. As you guessed no PCT is required. Also if she is leaning out some diet changes will be needed to really get her to the next level. Sounds like she does have some genetic gifts in her favour which is good likely she can make gains and cut at the same time with a little help from the Var. In my experience I always gain LBM when I cut cause that is when I run cycles I haven`t taken anything in the offseason in a few years.

 

[Tatyana]

Drug interactions are complicated and I am not a pharmacist.

However, this is a basic physiology thing, the alpha chain of TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone), LH (lutenising hormone) and FSH (follicle stimulating hormone), which are released from the pituitary gland to trigger the release of the thyroid hormones and either to stimulate follicles and ovulation (LH/FSH) or trigger testosterone production in men (LH) and spermatogenesis (FSH).

As anavar is a male hormone, it's metabolites will feed back to the hypothalamus and say 'hey we have loads of testosterone, stop making it' which will stop the release of LH/FSH in men, and I would assume also suppress this in women.

As TSH/LH/FSH are structurally similar, there may be a bit of cross over which could reduce any natural thryoid release.

The same would apply to the thyroid hormones feeding back and saying 'don't release any more TSH', so she may be a bit slower to recover from a cycle of anavar if LH/FSH are slightly more suppressed from any possible feedback mechanism cross-over.

This is just postulation, I would have to do a bit more research to see if this actually happens, or if there have been any case studies of this happening in some individuals.

For some reason, I do have a vague memory of this.

I really do read far too many medical journals.

 

[heavy_duty]

Var = dbol = be very careful if gel caps.