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TWO WEEK CYCLES are the safest!

Primo Only for 2 weeks?

Dial-Tone.... When you say you'd like to try Primo, do you mean PRIMO ONLY for a two weeker? I am about to start my first cycle (Primo Only).....just looking for some suggestions......been training 15 years.... 5'9" 197 just looking to harden up.
 
i came back from turkey with the following gear:

sustanons
primobolans
anadrol
clomid
proviron

i was thinking of 1000mg sustanon on day 1 and another 1000mg on day 5, while taking 50mg anadrol throughtout the 3 weeks with clomid to follow from weeks 4 to 6.

another option is 200mg primobolan every day for teh first week while taking 50mg anadrol throughout the entire 3 wees and clomid to follow from weeks 4 to 6.

any opinions on these?
 
Realgains said:


Always take 20 of nolva during any cycle with aromatizing roids....and no it will nto cut into your gains.

RG
:)
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You previously stated that you thought that estrogen was quite anabolic and that you thought that by using ancillary drugs to avoid gyno you in fact hindered your gains... YOu put arimidex as an example...
What do you mean now? That by taking arimidex you will hinder your gains but not by taking nolvadex??
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satch,
have you punched those doses into the roid calculator? I think you've got the right idea on how to run it for a short cycle but have you considered prop or shorter acting test? keep us posted on what you decide.
 
Well Damn! I really like this 2 week on 4 week off idea because i'm not trying to get freaky in a short time, but should be getting sust and deca really soon. SO, now I just my only option is to do the 10 weeker that I already had planned.

Know how I could pull off a 2, 3, or 4 weeker with sust and deca? Too bad I couldn't have read this post before I ordered.
 
babbabuee said:
satch,
have you punched those doses into the roid calculator? I think you've got the right idea on how to run it for a short cycle but have you considered prop or shorter acting test? keep us posted on what you decide.
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boy that post was old....

actually, i'm not a subscriber to the 'short cycle' theory.

i like my cycles long and juicy. 12-20 weeks.
gives the body enough time to adapt to the extra mass.

lots of luck for whoever tries a 2 weeker.. just dont come back crying that, after 4 weeks, you lost all your gains.
 
Re: I think the idea has merit, but I'm not covinced.

Silent Method said:
I don't like the idea of begining to shut down my own test production only to have supraphsiological levels of steroid hormones for two weeks - not even enough time for your body to kick into accelerated growth.
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The accelerated growth begins the moment the juice circulates in the bloodstream, and the ester is broken down.
 
satchboogie said:


boy that post was old....

actually, i'm not a subscriber to the 'short cycle' theory.

i like my cycles long and juicy. 12-20 weeks.
gives the body enough time to adapt to the extra mass.

lots of luck for whoever tries a 2 weeker.. just dont come back crying that, after 4 weeks, you lost all your gains.
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I kept gains from a 3 weeker than a 2 weeker several months later. I like short cycles.
 
ok , what about 10-15 fina pellets oral daily , for 2 weeks?? and i don't want all the "it doesn't woork" bullshit cause it does, no its not as effective but , i have the money and i don't care, and i have tried it orally b4 and it does work, just lots of cranberry and water?????????????
 
Coming off the end of my 2nd 2 weeker.
Good results and no sides.
As I'm a Doc I will be getting my blood work done.
 
I agree with Lumberg, I did one 3 weeker and kept everything. I then decided to do a long cycle and got bombarded with sides. I'm staying natural for a while now, but when I start using gear again I think I'm going to stick with 3 weekers.

VONN, 15 pellets is probably overkill, but then again it depends on what your goals are. People seem to get good results from 8-10 pellets. I don't know how well tren works with short cycles since it shuts you down hard pretty quickly.
 
i'll be doing a 3-weeker starting in about 10 days. it will consist of Prop, Primo and Var with a d-bol kickstart 1st week, based on Nelson Montana's "The Perfect Cycle" in BLB.

i'll post up the exact dosages, my stats, etc. before i start and i'll post results after i finish. i'm recovering from a broken ankle so it might be more than 10 days from now but it will be close.

i'm doing it because i'm a newbie (only one cycle so far) and because i'm 34 and don't want to struggle with PCT for weeks and weeks.

Nadr
 
What an awesome thread!! Realgain you have me convinced. The cycle after my next will be a two weeker. I'm thinking test/prop and var (not looking to gain anymore weight.) Thanks for the time on this one, very informative. Karma to ya.
 
^
 
I've always done medium cycles, 8-10 weeks. For 2004 I'm going to do two long ones of 12-16 weeks then I hope to spend 2005 doing 3 weeks on/6 weeks off the entire year.
 
hey rg if i go on a 2weeker the first day i shoud inj 3 amps of tren 300 than 100 a day for 14 days and the same day 50mg dianabol and 300mg of test prop all in the first day? than go on from there?
 
I saw something on another website where the guy advocated high doses for 30 days then 14-20 days off. I'll steal part of his post here:

Well again the theory behind it is all the gear leaves your system within a couple of days. You then are off with a clear system for 2-3 weeks tops. When you hit a normal 10 week cycle with longer acting gear it can stay active for another 2-4 weeks. Plus you need to go through PCT for another 2-3. So really you are only off for 3. Alot of people that I know that do SHIC don't really even need PCT. Some do. It's not for everyone but I thought I'd share it with everyone to show a different way of doing things.
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i did a tren and winny cycle and gained about 14lbs then most went post cycle as i fcuked up pct and ate little and didnt train. I was in Thailand tho so i was still happy :)
 
Realgains. What do you think of the cycle 10mg d-boll taken at the morning for 4-8weeks VS a cycle of test/d-boll for 2on 4 off etc etc...? What is the best choice if you want most muscels?

My english in not so god but i hope you understand what i mean :worried:

Best regards Kalloy!
 
I dont think Realgains is around anymore mate!

This post has been going on for 2-years. No one has yet posted any results on their 2-weekers. WHY?
 
i was thinkin of doing a dbol cycle for 3 weeks at 30mg/ed.
 
British Bulldog said:
I dont think Realgains is around anymore mate!

This post has been going on for 2-years. No one has yet posted any results on their 2-weekers. WHY?
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ohh, thats bad... I have not either read any results on te 2w...

thanks for letting me know bro :)
 
on my m1t 2 week cycles i gained lot of stregth after cycles as well as during those 2 weeks.

I dont know if it's a coincidence or what but I liked it.
 
Ditto to Lift Cheif
I have a script for Cyp. as my natural test levels are 27. Yes 27. I have been going as high as 600 mg of cyp ans as low as 200mg for a year and a half. I just went off for 8 weeks and started up again today at 500 mgs. I don't get blood work done or take any anti-E's. No sides so far. But after a while I stop seeing results. I'm 210lb, 6'2" 7%bf. and do a lot of biking as well. Good diet and all. What would you suggest I could do? any help would be great.
 
Realgains said:
Sounds good ......do the tren at 75-100 after a 150-200 front load bro.....Knowing you I am sure you know all this already.....this is more for the inexperienced bro.

RG:)
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im not the smartest when it comes to tren, but what tren do you guys most commonly choose? i know there are several kinds but which one is most effective. ive heard acetate is. and do they all have short half lifes? excuse my ignorance on this subject.
 
I have posted some in another thread. I've gained a total of 8 kg off 3 x 2 weekers and a 3 weeker. And very mild doses.

It works, I'm not sur ehow it messes with hormones though, and all that pct...

I'm going the 10 week cycle twice a year for now, see how my bloods come out...

2 weekers work, they just not as fun...

British Bulldog said:
I dont think Realgains is around anymore mate!

This post has been going on for 2-years. No one has yet posted any results on their 2-weekers. WHY?
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Realgains said:
My test level was very low at day 14 and then after a week it was very good and it then dropped back down to my usual norm after week three weeks off. If HPTA has not recovered then test levels would not come back like that even on clomid. All clomid does is block estrogen receptors at the hyprothalamus and pituitary as this stimulates GnRH and LH release. Once this has happened and the testes are back to normal then HPTA recovery is complete.

RG
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ive read your post and im very interested in trying your theory out... ive got one ques though... 2on/4off, for 20years..?? youve been juicing for 20years, are you still able to have children dude, i know the 2on approch is good for lipid profiles and doesnt shut you down like a 8plus cycle would, but if you ran it all year like that, for years, would it mess with sperm production???? is 4weeks enough time to get your testes making new again...? i would like to have a family one day, and want to be safe but want to be big.. any info on this topic RG?????????????????
 
Dont think RG is around anymore. He might be on Cuttingedgemuscle.

But you won't get answers from him. No studies have been done on this, nor is everyone the same.

I think you are fairly safe with 2 on 5 off though tbh. Similar with mild 2 x 10 weekers per year, if you have good bloodwork, good pct and hcg if necessary, for a couple of years you should be fine. Anyway, I think after 6-7 long cycles you should be pretty much at genetic limit, imho.
 
TWO WEEK CYCLES report

new to the board and to steroids, only one cycle before ( 8 weeks of susta+deca+dianabol one year ago) just finished my third 3 week cycle ( 3 on and 4 off ) after the first I gained 3 kg, second 4 kg and third 2 kg.

I used test prop and anadrol 50 during my first two and only tren during my last. used nolva during cycle one and two and clomid during the 4 weeks off.

anyone else with some feedback on their short cycles?
 
Re: Real Gains...

Richard Simmons said:
would your cycle plan work well for a football player using test suspension...the reason i ask is because suspension has a short half life and is undetectable...what kinda gains could i expect from 2 weeks of suspension and 4 weeks off using clomid??
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the clomid is dectable, and the test is dectable unless you stop 3 days before a test
 
Looks like you wrote this a long time ago, do you still think 2 weeks on, 4 weeks off is the best method to see gains?

Thanks for your time.
 
krishna said:
Long cycles kick ass! Eq is one of my favorites...gotta run it for 15 weeks.
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I have had best luck with this: 4 weeks on, then 2 with weeks off with pct. Then 4 weeks on, with another 2 weeks off.

After the 3rd 4 week "on" cycle, then take a 4 week break with pct. Then start all over again.

Minimum damage to liver,gyno etc. and max time "on" over a year. Maximum gain retention.

Try it. You will like it!!
 
krishna said:
Long cycles kick ass! Eq is one of my favorites...gotta run it for 15 weeks.
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I have had best luck with this: 4 weeks on, then 2 with weeks off with pct. Then 4 weeks on, with another 2 weeks off.

After the 3rd 4 week "on" cycle, then take a 4 week break with pct. Then start all over again.

Minimum damage to liver,gyno etc. and max time "on" over a year. Maximum gain retention.

Try it. You will like it!!
Note: This method is best accomplished with FAST acting gear so your pct can act immediately upon cessation of each cycle.
 
Originally, this was Bill Roberts' idea. It's really not panned out for too many people in real life, though it looks good to some people on paper. Coincidentally, I believe this cycle was "optimal" - according to Bill, with certain steroids only....but certainly with Mag-10 and another Biotest product (I forget the name)...this is, by the way, the company who owns/runs the website that this article/idea was originally posted on.

I believe Bill also recently earned his PhD, if anyone's interested.
 
anthony roberts said:
Originally, this was Bill Roberts' idea. It's really not panned out for too many people in real life, though it looks good to some people on paper. Coincidentally, I believe this cycle was "optimal" - according to Bill, with certain steroids only....but certainly with Mag-10 and another Biotest product (I forget the name)...this is, by the way, the company who owns/runs the website that this article/idea was originally posted on.

I believe Bill also recently earned his PhD, if anyone's interested.
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The only person I know for sure (besides myself) that this has panned out for in real life is a certain former Mr. Austrailia who I got this system from.
 
bosundave said:
I have had best luck with this: 4 weeks on, then 2 with weeks off with pct. Then 4 weeks on, with another 2 weeks off.

After the 3rd 4 week "on" cycle, then take a 4 week break with pct. Then start all over again.

Minimum damage to liver,gyno etc. and max time "on" over a year. Maximum gain retention.

Try it. You will like it!!
Note: This method is best accomplished with FAST acting gear so your pct can act immediately upon cessation of each cycle.
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This seems like it would cause my levels to fluctuate with the use of long esters. Pct also seems futile at best with the use of long esters. How can one expect to recover with high doses of anabolics still present in the body after two weeks off? I'm having understanding the logic behing cycling this way.
 
krishna said:
This seems like it would cause my levels to fluctuate with the use of long esters. Pct also seems futile at best with the use of long esters. How can one expect to recover with high doses of anabolics still present in the body after two weeks off? I'm having understanding the logic behing cycling this way.
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This system will not work with long esters. Perhaps only using them for the first week. Like i said in my first post, this system is best used with short acting only. If you like using long acting esters, then there are plenty other methods/cycles available.
Since I happen to like short acting esters, I have been very happy with the 4 on 2 off system. It works great. Bad sides seem to be kept to a minimum. Hey, its just one way out of many. Try it, you may like it.
 
Hi, bros! I've been off for over 18 months now... I'm in my 40's and i'm not sure if it were roids or if i freaked out, but i've had serious problems with getting wood and i'm still scared about how to get back on anabolics without messing out completely...

After this year and a half of abstinence a short cycle is becoming tempting...so I thought i would ask a few questions. Starting with the cycle itself: i've got Sust250 (i know it is a long acting roid, but i am posting what i've still got left "in stock") and Primo aplenty (the real thing; bought at the pharmacist). Also a few (about 150) 2mg tablets of Winny. Proviron and HCG.

I think i read quite some time ago a post by Nelson with a 3 week cycle that was something like 250-500mg of Sustanon on week one; 100mg of Primo ew on weeks 1-3; and some anavar or winny along the way. What do you think?

I'm not a pro...just after the looks. So 3-5 pounds of lbm would be my goal this time. And my main scare is fiddling with my dick again!! Other stats: 6' 3" and 190 pounds. I know I am far from my theoretical maximum, but try to gain mass at 42 without "help"...
 
Two weeks is a good warm up, for one of my 10 month cycles,

Sorry it isn’t that complicated, I seem to gain muscle constantly on gear, and feel great too, thin, muscular and healthy.



I guess I am following the time on time off recommendation.


Did my first cycle when I was about 47,

so I was off for 47 years,

I guess I should be on the next 47 years

I hear primo is free in Heaven
 
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