TWO WEEK CYCLES are the safest!

[Realgains]

Realgains I need some advice, I did my first 2 weeker about 4 weeks ago now and it consisted of tren/prop/winny/ and var. I got and extreme about of bloat from the test. I was also running arimidex at .05mg a day. Now should i up my dose of arimidex to 1mg a day and use proviron? Also how long before you frontload the test should i start the arimidex? does it make a diffrence?
last cycle i frontloaded 300mg and ran 100 EOD for 8 days then stoped because i was so bloated. I also have some tren left from valopharm, and i just held it up to some light and it looked to be dirty, with some particals inside, almost looks like cotton, or glue wierd. Anyway i am not going to use it until i can fliter it, and have no idea where i can get a filter here in asia. Would appreciate your input.

Strange that you got so bloated so soon...but everyone is a little different.

Run 1mg for a couple day BEFORE you start the cycle and then 1mg per day while on.

Some people really react to test but don't as much to d-bol as far as bloat is concerned. You MAY wish to run a tren/d-bol/winny for 2-3 weeks next time, with little arimidex.

The problem with estrogen inhibitors is that if used correctly they prevent a great deal of estrogen from forming and this has some negative impact on gains. It does seem that estrogen helps with gains to some degree and this probably has to do with IGF-1 stimulation.

 

[browncloud]

RG thanks for the reply, I will use the arimidex at 1 mg a day before and on through the cycle. What about adding proviron too. Also should i run the arimdex until day 14 or longer?

 

[jboy]

My last eight week cycle of tren took over a month to recover from (using my sex drive as a gauge). I find it very hard to keep any of my gains because of the long recovery times, so I decided to try a short cycle. I finished a two week tren cycle about a month ago. My sex drive started to drop off during the last couple of days of the cycle, and about one week after my last shot my drive was way down. It took over three weeks for my sex drive to return to near normal.

Maybe it's just the way tren effects me, but my system seemed to shut down almost as hard from a two week cycle as it does on an eight week cycle. I love the aesthetic effect tren has on my body, I just wish I could keep more of the gains! I still have yet to find a way to speed up recovery. Maybe I'm just getting too old for gear?

 

[Realgains]

RG thanks for the reply, I will use the arimidex at 1 mg a day before and on through the cycle. What about adding proviron too. Also should i run the arimdex until day 14 or longer?

Through day 14 is good enough due to its half life.

Proviron?....not for estrogen inhibition as it isn't needed with the arimidex....BUT>>>>Proviron is a good thing to add to almost any stack as it strongly binds to steroid hormone binding proteins and this leaves more of the anabolic hormones unbound and this is good for anabolism.
Proviron after a cycle...NO...it is an androgen and will hinder hPTA recovery.

RG

 

[browncloud]

RG,

Thanks for the reply, I started the arimidex at 1 mg a day and will be front loading prop tommorow @ 300mg. I will keep you posted on what happens.
I am saving the tren i have for my next two weeker, because i need to filter it before i can use it. I live in Thailand so you can't get tren here very easy. Also I am going to have a buddie of mine ship me out a fiter from the states. Then I will be doing the tren/dbol/winny cycle.

 

[arigold]

UP!UP!UP!

 

[gunner44]

IMHO you can use a long acting ester BUT it will be less effective since blood levels will not be great all the way through.

If you used a gram of test enanthate on day one then after a week you would have about 500mg circulatinga nd after two weeks you would still have 250 and thats still enough to inhibit...it would take another week for the test to clear enough to HPTA recovery to even start to decide to begin.

SO...yes you could use a gram but the cycle would be 3 weeks long.

500 would be better for a two weeker.

Best not to use two aromatizable hormones at one time ...try test and tren oR tren and d-bol.
IF you have nolva on hand(20mg per day) then you will not get gyno as long as you take the stuff as soon as you sence sore nipples while rubbing them with soap in the shower each day as a test.

Pretty much impossible to get gyno with nolva use IF it hasn't already started.

Some say that tren causes gyno but I do not believe this.

You must be one of the luck ones. Tren can cause gyno especially when estrogen levels get out of hand.

If you are not sure how prone you are to gyno...then you need to do one steroid at a time to evaluate your tollerance level.

I would never recommend a newbie use tren with d-bol , test. or any other estrogenic AAS until they have done a tren only cycle.

You need to look at your own natural breast development before you go out and enhance it with steroids.

Yes, all men have some amount of breast tissue hiding under there.

Tren is not a newbie drug to be stacked recklessly until you are famaliar with it. Same goes for high doses of test.

As far as doing BOTH on a beginner cycle...well I am not in favor of that AT ALL. Gotta be safe people.

 

[82Bruiser]

Gunner,

can gyno be a problem with 2 week cycles? 75mg tren ed for 15 days followed by clomid? Would D-bol ed add to this problem even though its only for 2 weeks?

 

[gunner44]

I started to experience sore nips after 8 days, so I tihnk gyno can occur very rapidly. Even on 2 week cycles.

I was on Tren 75mg ED,Prop 100 mg Ed and D-bol 30,ED
with nolvadex and Liquidex daily as well to controll estrogen.

I dropped the D-bol and Prop IMMEDIATLY and switched to WInstrol for the last 6 days of my 2 weeker.

Soreness went away in about 2 days.

Dont use my dosage to guage your cycle. It was harsh, even for me, and iam 225ish and 8-9%.

Never got any sides frm over 1.5 grams of test in the past.
So i blame it on the prolactin/estrogen combination.

Next couple of cycles will be tren and winnie. Not that i believe that winnie will stop prolactin sides, just that it is short acting and does not aromatize.

If my DURABOLIN gets here soon , I might play with that. I want to see if it is really as progestinic as the tren.

 

[jh1]

Realgains -

Speaking of this subject of short cycles -

I know you recommend 2 weeks on 2 weeks off -or- 2 weeks on 4 weeks off for year 'round cycles

What do you recommend for 3 week Montana Cycles?

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!