Jimbol, that is currently the stack I am in now. Initially I was gunna run them together, but instead, I started the Turinabol first and added Androhard in at week 4. Now I am done iwth week for and i am going to continue the Androhard for another three weeks with NeedtoSlin and Ancient Strength. I am going to be starting a log within the next couple of days. Needto was nioce enough to send me a bottle of Ancient Strength to log. That guy is awesome. I have been on boards for years, and I have never been picked to run something. Anyway, as I have stated before, the results from Turinabol are f-in amazing. I have used every Halodrol Clone out there, and used the original Gaspari Halodrol 50. This stuff wrecks them both. I am on a very lean diet, and in the four weeks of Using Turinabol I put on 5 to 6 pounds, but my vascularity is insane, I have veins on top of veins, LOL. Best Halodrol 50 Clone BAR NONE. I will be posting the log in a few days. Feel free to follow it for the three weeks left of Androhard and my four weeks of PCT. Take care..