Ttokkyo fakes are out!!!

[J.Summers]

Hey,

My name is Jeff and I noticed you flamed me pretty good on the elite fitness board the other day. It's cool in all you’re entitled to not like someone and your opinions. I was just wondering if you would give me the opportunity to prove to you that there is some fake ttokkyo stuff currently in circulation, certainly not an abundance. Tell you what if you can give me a few weeks to get back to my buddies Vet shop in TJ he’s been holding a few boxes of fake STANOL for me. I don’t know if you have a special interest in ttokkyo labs and it’s none of my business. I’m not looking for a pissing contest. I’m just giving you heads up. I’ve attached photos of two boxes of Kettamina, which are like for sure being faked.

P.S. On a side note the STANOL fakes have round holograms not square w/rounded corners and the holograms watermarks are distinctly different. Not trying to be a smart ass in any way but I was just curious why do you think ttokkyo changed their caps from blue to white and added the ttokkyo logo?

If I come threw I’m not looking for a public apology in any way just requesting a mutual respect. Would that be fair?

Thanks in advance.

Jeff Summers

By the way I just turned 30 and thanks yes I often get you look young thing!

 

[J.Summers]

Fake

 

[vanillagorilla]

anabolics.com still sucks

 

[Too Huge]

Hey Jeff,

I never said anything about not liking you, hell I don't even know you! You could be a great guy. My problem is with people who call themselves gurus. I guess maybe you have been around a little longer than I thought but with all of the shit I hear from people who claim to be experts it just makes me question peoples knowledge. I have been around the sport about 17 years and know most of the pros out there really well (actually you probably would know my name too) so I know a thing or two about our medicine and it just makes me laugh sometimes when I hear what some of these guys are telling people. I have read your flier and some of the stuff was pretty interesting but I can't say I agree with everything but thats cool. Sorry if I came off so strong but I just get fed up sometimes. Reading some of the posts on this forum really gets to me sometimes. There is alot of bad info going around!!!

 

[J.Summers]

Too Huge,

I can respect the guru comment. In no way am I saying I’m the man, the RoidGuru thing started back in early 90’s when I moved to Denver from San Diego and was networked pretty well with some guys at powerhouse gym. I was designing a few 12-16 week pre contest cycles for a few young NPC guys and they started calling me guru and things like Duchaine Jr. as you know Dan was very popular to back then. This was quite the complement to me because I spent hours and hours training and studying about every bodybuilding drug I could find. In no way have I ever compared myself to Dan, I value his efforts and work very much. Honestly, I don’t consider myself a guru or expert, those titles I have never requested. Guys like you have 7 years on me so it would be highly pompous of me to not have an open mind and learn from everyone’s experiences. I’m just looking to create some contacts here and there. Hopefully I’ll run into a few of you at shows and maybe learn something over a conversation; maybe I have something to offer maybe I don’t. I assume we have never met but I’ll be at the Olympia watching models handing out Anabolic Insider newsletters all day. If you walk by please say hello. Thanks for the thoughtful post and I give you my word I will do everything in my power to be ethical and valued in the industry. BTW I agree with you about the misinformation floating around.

Ignorance is bliss until you have the correct information then your obligated to do something about it. Steve Zigman Olympic World Champion Weightlifter

Regards

Jeff Summers

 

[1Mistake]

What are the #'s on the K??? They look EXACTLY like those that are all over the US...and are 100% real

J

 

[gotmilk]

I don't care about the box...I want to see the vial..both front and back.

To me..it looks like someone cut the dog out of a Nandrolone box and pasted it over a Ketamine box. Photoshop can do that.

 

[gotmilk]

Ok Jeff,
I give....let's see the fake Stanol tabs. I have a friend who works at IDEXX Laboratories up in Maine and he tests our stuff for us when he has the time.

You say you have fakes....lets see them. In the original package with the shrink wrap still on the packages. Stanol tabs...Nandrolone?

I know you make some serious cash so don't claim that you can't afford it. Let's see the stuff.

I'll photo it and paste copies on both Elite and Anabolex.com. I'll even go as far as apologizing and will publicly state that you, Jeff Summers, was the person who discovered this.

There will be fake Ttokkyo gear someday..but I'll have to call BullShit until I see real gear in it's real packaging that is bogus. No package and no shrink wrap..No deal.

What do you think?

 

[Fat Bastard]

fake ttokkyo pics??

found some supposedly fake pics at ausvet.com .
Anybody else seen these?

 

[gotmilk]

Hey Fat Bastard....and who is TTokkyo's biggest competitor in Mexico?