Trying to put on mass

[velvett]

I'm sorry if this comes out rude but your training and diet (they're horrid) are specifically the items that are holding you back.

You're not eating enough and pastry is simply not a meal - so lose that.

You need at least 4-6 meals - the size is dependant on the amount of meals.
You need some protein - regardless of the source - animal flesh, beans, legumes something whatever you can eat.

Your training - Qt already said it - it has a lot of holes and I take a wild guess that your not doing enough of what you are doing and you're training with too little weight.

Read through the stickies at the top of this forum, read through some of the girls training logs and get an idea of what they are doing, then come back and post up your stats and goals.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Like QT and Vel said, there is room for HUGE improvement. PLEASE check out the stickies at the top. ESPECIALLY the one entitled "links to top threads". This will give you TONS of reading on sample diets and training programs - as well as the reasoning behind WHY you should/should not do certain things.

 

[scorpiogirl]

I don't do chest because I have implants!

I also have implants. Training chest will not cause a problem with them providing you've had them long enough to be able to do normal daily activity. Usually you can start moving your arms above your head around 3 weeks. If you've had them for 3 - 4 months or longer and don't have any complications because of them - you should be able to train chest with no problem.

I would suggest doing a search on different kinds of training for each muscle group. Change up excercises on muscle groups. Training exaclty the same EVERY time will not provide the best benefit.

Do searches....that's your best bet. Also, be aware that what may work for someone else may not work for you. You have to customize your macros and workouts to your specific needs.....but the searches and advice here are an excellent place to start until you can tweek your program.

You probably will not gain muscle with the diet you are on. It consists of mostly carbs which WILL cause you to gain fat. If you don't like meat - try something like a soy version of meat. Morningstar has some awesome veggie burgers and other meals. They may not be totally "clean" meals, but you will be getting some additional protien.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Oh, and to gain muscle, typically your caloric intake should be about 12-15 x body weight.

Try www.fitday.com to see your current intake. I am thinking it is WAY low and the macronutrient breakdown is WAY off. Youd diet is 100% the issue. Even if you don't change your training at all (although it stands to be changed) and just fix your diet, you will start to see results.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Oh, and to gain muscle, typically your caloric intake should be about 12-15 x body weight.

Try www.fitday.com to see your current intake. I am thinking it is WAY low and the macronutrient breakdown is WAY off. Youd diet is 100% the issue. Even if you don't change your training at all (although it stands to be changed) and just fix your diet, you will start to see results.

I highlighted what needs repeating what you put in your mouth is about 80% of your battle.

 

[SANST00]

Got it!! I'm on my way to knowledge and go read the other post for info!
Thanks for your support!
I'm gonna clean out my diet!!
I DO train shoulders but forgot to mention it!

 

[Sassy69]

The discussion of whether or not to train chest w/ implants - some will say no, some will say yes -- I forget what was the situation for one person who said they don't. However I do. I've had implants for 5 yrs and actually started training for my first BB competition 4 months after the surgery, competing 7 months later. No problems (and I have unders). Took those 4 months to get my full motion back, heal, etc. Initially the muscles were really tight, but that worked itself w/ movement. I'll note that I haven't spent a lot of time working chest REALLY heavy simply because I have a lot of muscle mass as a result of several years of training already under my belt. For my most recent competition I was trainign more to shape what i had as opposed to bulid more.

BTW, you aren't vegetarian right? Just don't like meat? I'd suggest doing wht the girls have mentioned above and also peruse the Recipe sticky at the top of the board for recipes that will change your thoughts about meat. It is literally 80% diet to achieve your goals. All the training in the world is useless if you don't fuel your body for what you are asking it to do.

 

[Gymgurl]

All great info...now for pyrimiding...why is that a bad idea?

 

[Sassy69]

W/ this pyramid scheme, that's a total of 48 reps for one muscle group. It doesn't really give you any ability take advantage of "heavy lifting" - too many total reps. If the goal is to build muscle, that's a lot of reps to be able to go heavy.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

W/ this pyramid scheme, that's a total of 48 reps for one muscle group. It doesn't really give you any ability take advantage of "heavy lifting" - too many total reps. If the goal is to build muscle, that's a lot of reps to be able to go heavy.

And that is assuming also she is only doing ONE exercise per body part. If you pyramid like that for EACH exercise for a body part (i.e., doing DB chest press, DB chest flies, and BB incline press for chest) , you are doing HUNDREDS of reps for each body part.

This is NOT a way to gain muscle.

THEN add in a shitty diet, with minimal protein and crappy carbs - and you have a serious recipe for muscle catabolism and gettting NO results.