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Tren/winny Log

seandh07

seandh07

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So I finally have all my stuff to start a quick 6 week tren/winny log. The tren is Ace obviously and ill be injecting that. The tren will be starting at 50eod and work up to 50ed. Winny will be 50 everyday. I have n2gaurd HCGenerate and prami. Currently 5'5" 175 12% hoping to stay between 165-170 @ 7% the diet I will include will not change, except for 1-2 cheat meals a week. While at the gym my workouts always change (just how I like it and it works for me) yes I wake up at 2am because I have to be at work by 4 (military) as you can see its relatively high carb, high protein, low fat diet. Extremely low sodium and virtually no sugar (except for the grapefruit) I had my first pin last night as well as first app of winny. I got really itchy from the winny and I couldn't drink enough water it seemed, I took prami last night to which knocked me the fuck out! Ill hit the gym around 530 today, enjoy!!

Wake up and drink 16 oz water and take all vitamins…to include: Multi, B-complex, L-Carnitine or dose of fat burner, Calcium, fish oil, BCAA’s and C.

Meal 1: 2:00
7 egg whites and 2 whole eggs, 15 almonds and 1 cup oatmeal or 2 slices Ezekial toast.
Or skip the oats and mix the eggs with ½ cup cream of wheat and cinnamon and make pancakes.

Meal 2 4:30 -
1.5 scoop whey isolate protein shake with water and 2-3 plain lightly salted rice cakes

Meal 3 7:00
7 oz ground turkey, 1 cup brown rice and 1 cup diced peppers red, green or yellow, and 15 almonds

Meal 4 9:30
5 oz tuna, ½ cup banana pepper rings, 8 oz sweet potato

Meal 5 12:30
4 oz flank steak with 3 oz chicken and 12 asparagus.

2:00 - 1 whole grapefruit and 20 almonds

Lift & Cardio -35 minutes 6 days a week—Keep cardio low intensity for now- elliptical, treadmill at 3.4, or bike.

Meal 6 4:00
7oz chicken 12 asparagus and 1 cup white rice or 8 oz white potato - on lifting days add 2 large rice cakes or a slice of P28 bread with a tbsp honey (any flavor rice cakes)
Also have B-complex, glutamine and 1,000 mg vitamin C

Meal 7 6:30 6 egg whites and a spinach salad and other added green veggies with balsamic vinegar or red wine vinegar. 1 large rice cake with 1 tbsp sugar free jelly

7:00 at bed time
1.5 scoop Casein Protein Shake

Bed by 7-get 7 hours.

Minimum 2 Gallons of water

So my workout was pretty intense, right now I'm going med weight high rep

Incline dumbbell press
55x15
65x15
70x12
70x12

Incline dumbbell fly (could have gone heavier
30x15
40x15
40x12

Flat dumbbell press
65x15
70x15
75x12
75x12

Flat dumbbell fly (again could have gone heavier)
35x15
45x15
45x12

Seated dumbbell overhead ext
80x15
90x15
100x12
110x12

Cable rope tri ext
70x15
80x15
90x15

Cable reverse tri ext
80x15
90x15
100x15

Then abs and about 15 min cardio.

I've noticed I'm thirsty as hell all the time and the gym had me winded, and sweating like a pig!! Do you tren users pin at night or morning, I've been doing nightly injections
 
Today was back. I've noticed vascular had increased slightly, guessing this is the winny. I have a slight increase in aggression but get winded after about 13 reps. Nothing to extraordinary to report.

Pull ups
Body weight x 15 x 4

Close grip lat pull down
140x15
160x15
180x15

Barbell wide grip row
135x15
155x15
175x12
185x12

Seated close row (uses actually weights)
70 (per side)x15
80 (per side)x15
90 (per side)x12

Wide grip standing barbell curl
40x15
50x15
60x15

Preacher curl
45x15
55x15
65x12

Standing high cable curl (arms straight out like a cross pulling in towards head)
30x15x3

Did some forearm work now I'm doing cardio.
 
Ok so a little update, I think I've been taking to much prami, I've only taken it twice at .25 eod I'm thinking about going e3d. I woke up last night feeling sick as hell, and even almost Puked this morning. Insomnia hit me pretty good, got to bed around 8 but fell asleep around 11 (I wake up at 2am for work) i sweat all night last night to, and its 32 outside abd im burning the fuck up! I will update later after gym (if its open, really bad snowstorm right now) I have legs/shoulders. That will be fun with my legs still sore somewhat from injections.
 
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seandh07 said:
Ok so a little update, I think I've been taking to much prami, I've only taken it twice at .25 eod I'm thinking about going e3d. I woke up last night feeling sick as hell, and even almost Puked this morning. Insomnia hit me pretty good, got to bed around 8 but fell asleep around 11 (I wake up at 2am for work) will update later after gym (if its open, really bad snowstorm right now) I have legs/shoulders. That will be fun with my legs still sore somewhat from injections.
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I find that training the site I just injected helped it recover.. have you tried getting your hands on caber.. I have no experience with either but from what I've read caber is the better of the 2

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Yea I haven't found any caber in months, since I'm stacking with winny ill just keep the prami at .25 e3d which should be sufficient as far as prolactin goes.
 
seandh07 said:
Ok so a little update, I think I've been taking to much prami, I've only taken it twice at .25 eod I'm thinking about going e3d. I woke up last night feeling sick as hell, and even almost Puked this morning. Insomnia hit me pretty good, got to bed around 8 but fell asleep around 11 (I wake up at 2am for work) i sweat all night last night to, and its 32 outside abd im burning the fuck up! I will update later after gym (if its open, really bad snowstorm right now) I have legs/shoulders. That will be fun with my legs still sore somewhat from injections.
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it could be the prami which is why i tell guys to try it out before running tren as a test and see how you react to it.

however more likely it is the tren causing this. 2 things.. you are gonna have to drink A LOT more especially before bed. and you are also gonna have to up your calories/carbs during the day (yea i know your goals are to cut hard and go low carb/cal but not gonna survive long on tren doing that)

also before bed i would drink some apple juice and some glucose tabs. then during the night take 3 more tabs and drink more apple juice to keep your blood sugar stable. when it drops thats when you are gonna sweat and get insomnia

google a list of low blood sugar symptoms and you will notice you are getting a bunch of those because of your diet you are running here. which is why i tell guys tren is a bad idea for the diet you chose. primo, eq are far better choices if you want to kill your sugars, cals, carbs on a cycle. tren nutrition partitions, so if your body runs out of glycogen guess what happens? your body rebels
 
Ok, I can tweak a few things to better suit. Lmao I have an emergency bag of M&Ms that I keep stored in my lunch box.
 
So your not using test with tren? Really that's a recipe for disaster. What about a Ai? Tren does not act as a test
 
JTIC said:
So your not using test with tren? Really that's a recipe for disaster. What about a Ai? Tren does not act as a test
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Plenty of people have run tren only cycles with no problem.. if you control prolactin your dick won't be affected..

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An Ai will control estrogen which controls prolactin production. And just because people have " done " it doesn't make it ok. It's best to run a small
Amount of test with Any cycle to keep the body functioning normally even if at a trt dose.
 
JTIC said:
An Ai will control estrogen which controls prolactin production. And just because people have " done " it doesn't make it ok. It's best to run a small
Amount of test with Any cycle to keep the body functioning normally even if at a trt dose.
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So if I run a test/tren cycle and just control estrogen then I won't have a problem with progesterone/prolactin?

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JTIC said:
An Ai will control estrogen which controls prolactin production. And just because people have " done " it doesn't make it ok. It's best to run a small
Amount of test with Any cycle to keep the body functioning normally even if at a trt dose.
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dude please just stop typing.. you are have no clue what you are talking about.

you do realize that test aromatizes to estrogen right? and test doesn't block prolactin right? RIGHT? so your post makes zero sense.
prolactin and progesterone are not the same thing. I'm not gonna sit here and try and explain the difference, go do some more homework before giving advice.
 
I'm waiting to see his explanation..

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JTIC said:
So your not using test with tren? Really that's a recipe for disaster. What about a Ai? Tren does not act as a test
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Bro educate yourself, you don't need test with tren if you know what your doing. Keep prolactin under control and your all good. Test can have a more effect on sides. Tren solo is a great cycle especially for the first time tren user. Tren doesn't aromatize so no need for an AI. Caber/prami n2gaurd and hcgenerate And your set for tren solo. N2slin helps as well.
 
JTIC said:
An Ai will control estrogen which controls prolactin production. And just because people have " done " it doesn't make it ok. It's best to run a small
Amount of test with Any cycle to keep the body functioning normally even if at a trt dose.
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Well good you got something right, but test and estrogen have NOTHING to do with prolactin. Like I said, educate yourself before you come in my thread and criticize what I'm doing.
 
dude please run this cycle and kick ass and show these people that tren alone is fine to do. can't wait to see after pics.

i've posted logs with tren only with bloods and pics and these people still don't listen.. not sure what else needs to be done to stop these bro science myths
 
stevesmi said:
dude please run this cycle and kick ass and show these people that tren alone is fine to do. can't wait to see after pics.

i've posted logs with tren only with bloods and pics and these people still don't listen.. not sure what else needs to be done to stop these bro science myths
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Let the haters hate and complain about sides because they aren't educated enough to cycle properly.
 
Is this your 1st tren cycle.. I would love to try tren only for my 1st time

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Will keep my eye on this one for the future. Interested in seeing results. keep killing it man

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bonacris said:
Will keep my eye on this one for the future. Interested in seeing results. keep killing it man

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Thanks brother, today was pretty good in the gym, had legs shoulders abs cardio. While doing the sets I felt a good amount of aggression and pumped out 15 reps on All exercises.

Hack squat machine
135x15
225x15
275x15
315x15

Leg ext
70x15
90x15
110x15

Leg curl
100x15
120x15
140x15

Standing calf raise
135x15x4

Shoulder press
115x15
125x15
135x15

Front delt raise
50x15
60x15
70x15

Machine lateral raise
65x15
80x15
95x15

Rear delt bent over fly
25x15x3

Shrugs
135x15
185x15
235x16
275x16

Then abs and 20 min cardio
 
Yea the apple juice did wonders! Had a nice glass right before bed and slept pretty damn good. No night sweats, no insomnia, and no nauseousness. To top it off, I forgot how good that shit is! Even had a glass with breakfast this morning.
 
seandh07 said:
Yea the apple juice did wonders! Had a nice glass right before bed and slept pretty damn good. No night sweats, no insomnia, and no nauseousness. To top it off, I forgot how good that shit is! Even had a glass with breakfast this morning.
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I will definitely keep this in mind if I ever run it again, because the night sweats and sleeplessness and tren cough were the reasons I gave it up.
 
seandh07 said:
Yea the apple juice did wonders! Had a nice glass right before bed and slept pretty damn good. No night sweats, no insomnia, and no nauseousness. To top it off, I forgot how good that shit is! Even had a glass with breakfast this morning.
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yeah the only negative is it makes me piss more.

smart having it for breakfast.. when you wake up your blood sugar is very low due to fasting.. this is why you see runners eat bananas when they wake up early for their road races.

tren= drops blood sugar
low blood sugar= lots of sides.
boost blood sugar= less sides.

its a lot more simple than people think

ya ya ya i know people like to shred body fat on tren so consuming sugar will hurt their goals. if they want to go through hellish sides to accomplish their goals then thats their business. thats just a median you have to figure out .. how much sides do you want to suffer through to reach your goals. a good way to balance things out is to buy a blood sugar meter and have just enough sugar to keep your glucose at a healthy level but not so high that you are having too much sugar. if you can figure that out you can really comp hard on tren and avoid sides at the same time. me? i like to keep shit simple when i cycle. i prefer to use tren to bulk and get stronger and i eat like a horse on the stuff. and I will use primo or EQ to comp.

so its really up to you the way you use tren.
 
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^i think you could cut efficiently and still get carbs. just get complex carbs spread throughout the day in small portions rather than timing then for certain time periods.
smaller amounts of complex carbs, spread throughout the day that equal up to your carb total for the day.

i eat my sugars in the morning ala apple juice, 1/2 cup oatmeal at lunch, 1/2 cup before workout/or sweet potato, 35g waxy maize post workout and depending on how im feeling either brocolli or more carbs post workout
 
Ok doing an update while doing cardio. So my diet was pretty off today, wasn't able to get groceries so wasn't able to cook all my food, either way in the gym I feel invincible, In determined to hit 15 reps on everything and won't stop until I get 15. I feel alot of drive focus and aggression in the gym. So far no bedroom problems either, a simple touch and I'm ready for action! I've noticed a small amount of definition increase (only been 4 days so I'm not expecting miracles) vascularity has increased significantly but I also quit smoking (don't judge me! Lmao) at the start of the cycle.

Incline bb press
115x15
145x15
155x15
175x15

Flat bb press
135x15
165x15
175x15
205x15

Cable decline fly
60x15x3

Cable flat fly
50x15x3

Cable incline fly
40x15x3

Dips
BWx15x3

Skull crushers
60x15
70x15
80x15

Dumbbell kickbacks
20x15
25x15
30x15

Cable reverse single tri ext
50x15
60x15
70x15
 
Good info in this thread. Thanks!
 
Holy shit, slept like ass last night, couldn't get comfortable, woke up and my head was POUNDING!! Washing sheets as I type this because of sweat. Once I got some food in though I'm good, my appetite is growing as well.
 
seandh07 said:
Holy shit, slept like ass last night, couldn't get comfortable, woke up and my head was POUNDING!! Washing sheets as I type this because of sweat. Once I got some food in though I'm good, my appetite is growing as well.
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eat a nice meal before bed bro.. do not go to bed on an empty stomach or you will be in deep shit.

scrambled eggs, brown rice, with a nice glass of apple juice is a great meal 30 minutes before bed. yeah i dont recommend eating that late but that tren is sucking out every piece of nutrient out of your body and if you don't put it back in you are gonna be in trouble.. or consider getting up at night and eating a protein bar or something with sugar that can get sucked up

on the other hand if you want to struggle like this and can handle sleep deprival then ignore what i wrote and you will shred up bigtime. gotta find your median here

can't wait to see your before and after pics here.. following like a hawk. make sure you get a nice tan and oil up before final pics. with your base and dedication you are gonna look solid after this. don't be scared to go 8 weeks instead of 6 weeks because around week 4 is when things really go nuts. you ain't seen nothing yet
 
stevesmi said:
eat a nice meal before bed bro.. do not go to bed on an empty stomach or you will be in deep shit.

scrambled eggs, brown rice, with a nice glass of apple juice is a great meal 30 minutes before bed. yeah i dont recommend eating that late but that tren is sucking out every piece of nutrient out of your body and if you don't put it back in you are gonna be in trouble
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Yea that was my immediate thought when I woke up. I'm going to have to more than 'tweak' my diet for this to work. Still trying to cut but I don't want to feel like death all the time. Besides if I eat clean enough ill still cut.
 
ya you can always up your cardio in order to eat more.
just try to get up to 1.5 hours a day, go 45 min in the AM and 45 post workout. Stairmaster preferably.

that will take any fat off like it was running from the Popo. and you will be deathly hungry too!

i would say just try to get those complex carbs before bed like steve said. i would be hesitant with the apple juice because it is all fructose, so i would get brown rice
and if you wake up with the sweats or something, then go for the apple juice.

what are you carbs at now?
 
well you probably are getting a lot of burned calories at work tho
do some ab holds at work. just be flexing them for 5 mins off, 5 mins on.....i like this a lot, feels like it helps at least.
 
Why can't there be a female friendly compound like tren, one that sucks everything out of you but doesn't turn us into the hulk? Ugh. Always jealous when I read tren logs :(
 
^have you looked into Stenbolone Acetate, MHN....
i mean i have heard that winny and var do that pretty well in females. primo as well.
not sure if EQ can be used by females tho.....
 
ballslee said:
ya you can always up your cardio in order to eat more.
just try to get up to 1.5 hours a day, go 45 min in the AM and 45 post workout. Stairmaster preferably.

that will take any fat off like it was running from the Popo. and you will be deathly hungry too!

i would say just try to get those complex carbs before bed like steve said. i would be hesitant with the apple juice because it is all fructose, so i would get brown rice
and if you wake up with the sweats or something, then go for the apple juice.

what are you carbs at now?
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if he can get away with the brown rice strategy then that is a good route. what freaked me out on my last tren run was the two times i woke up shivering and in a sweat and I couldn't move. then my hands felt like they were getting picked at. i was going into a low glucose shock, i managed to get out of bed and run to my glucose tabs and take 3 along with apple juice and jumped into the shower. when i got out i felt better like nothing happened.

also i have no idea why but it seemed like if i ate non complex carbs my glucose actually dropped. it was only when i ate complex carbs like sweet potato/brown rice did it work in my favor. almost like dirty carbs like pizza the tren chooses not to partition into the muscles, only the complex carbs.. really really weird that this compound actually is smart lol.. tren really is the king of AAS. although its not for everyone and for every situation. its nice to be off of it and actually be able to go for a 10 mile bicycle ride without obsessing about carrying around tabs like a diabetic
 
Man I've had a slight headache all day! Not sure if I'm getting sick of Judy not eating enough carbs (and I've ate like a mad man today)

Hey P, take tren but just go low dose 25/day or 50eod. I'm only doing 50eod right now actually, running it like this for two weeks then going up to 50/day if I feel it's necessary
 
ballslee said:
^have you looked into Stenbolone Acetate, MHN....
i mean i have heard that winny and var do that pretty well in females. primo as well.
not sure if EQ can be used by females tho.....
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EQ is fine for women, as is primo...primo is my 2nd fav inject next to masteron

Never tried MHN. Winny and var do cut me up but I gain muscle retardedly easily.
 
seandh07 said:
Man I've had a slight headache all day! Not sure if I'm getting sick of Judy not eating enough carbs (and I've ate like a mad man today)

Hey P, take tren but just go low dose 25/day or 50eod. I'm only doing 50eod right now actually, running it like this for two weeks then going up to 50/day if I feel it's necessary
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If I became an evil bitch on NPP, I can't imagine how I'd be on tren...too afraid lol but mainly too afraid of too much growth.
 
psizzle_8 said:
If I became an evil bitch on NPP, I can't imagine how I'd be on tren...too afraid lol but mainly too afraid of too much growth.
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You got it so hard don't you, to much growth, you on the right boards captain insaneo?! Haha I've been in a pretty shitty mood today, not good for ppl around me. I might loose my mind today at the gym if I hear 'yea man 2 more sets' and they do 2.1 more sets!
 
stevesmi said:
if he can get away with the brown rice strategy then that is a good route. what freaked me out on my last tren run was the two times i woke up shivering and in a sweat and I couldn't move. then my hands felt like they were getting picked at. i was going into a low glucose shock, i managed to get out of bed and run to my glucose tabs and take 3 along with apple juice and jumped into the shower. when i got out i felt better like nothing happened.

also i have no idea why but it seemed like if i ate non complex carbs my glucose actually dropped. it was only when i ate complex carbs like sweet potato/brown rice did it work in my favor. almost like dirty carbs like pizza the tren chooses not to partition into the muscles, only the complex carbs.. really really weird that this compound actually is smart lol.. tren really is the king of AAS. although its not for everyone and for every situation. its nice to be off of it and actually be able to go for a 10 mile bicycle ride without obsessing about carrying around tabs like a diabetic
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damn that sounds terrible. i had something like that at the gym the other day. I did real real heavy bench, then did real real heavy incline dumbells. felt like i was going to die. shivering, couldn't breath, etc. took some glucose tabs and BAM ten million times better i felt. then i went and grabbed a gatorade before i hit up cardio. it is definitely the reason you feel like shit on tren. GW has helped with cardio, but I ran out and it felt off a cliff. started cramping on my inner quad teardrop yesterday.....weirdest feeling ever
 
Lolol you've seen how big I can get. I'm not going for a lot of size right now or else I'll be too big for physique
 
So yesterday I was saying I had a terrible headache, kind of like a hangover headache. That pounding pressure type that makes you want to die (funny thing is the gf had the exact same headache) so it finally went away in the gym, felt really good focus and aggression but steay getting steamed out easier. Sweat is increasing as well, I can feel my body temp is higher than normal, that thermogenic feeling. After the gym I felt terribly catabolic so I went and got a wawa sub sand which (I'm allowed a cheat every now and again) instantly felt better and slept amazing. Ill be going from 50eod to 50ed with the tren starting tomorrow.

Wide grip lat pull
140x15
160x15
180x15
200x15

Close grip high lat pull
180x15
230x14
270x13
270x12

Close grip low row
180x15
230x14
270x13
270x12

Reverse grip bb row
135x15
175x15
205x12
225x10

Bb curl
60x15
70x15
80x15

Concentration curl
25x15x3

Cable curl
20x15
30x15
40x15

Then of course forearm work (I pride my massive forearms)
Light abs and light cardio.
 
stevesmi said:
you said you were stacking winny too.. the ONLY time in recent memory i have had headache issues was when i stacked tren and winny together. i ended up dropping the winny to 25mg ED and my headaches went away. 50mg ED headaches got really bad.
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Ill monitor that and drop it if I need to. I had planned on running the tren alone but I threw in the winny because it has anti prolactin effects which means I can take a lower dose of prami (and I wanted to see what the hype is with these new transdermals) they seem legit, more aggression, more vascularity. Funny thing is when I started Sunday I weighed right at 174, I stepped on the scale today at 176, but definition has increased slightly (well pretty good for just a week in) I feel slightly bigger. My overall well being is still the same though (going through divorce, dealing with custody battle blah blah blah) but all things considered I'm good, feel really confident with my body though so that's good enough for me.
 
So I hit the gym early this morning, today I'm also starting 50ed. I noticed pinning in the morning gave me a good energy boost (might be why I slept like shit the days I pinned right before bed) felt pretty good at the gym, busted out legs shoulders and cardio relatively quickly. I noticed the trans winny can leave your skin dry so ill be picking up some lotion to fix that. Tomorrow is rest day (dreading that!) so no update tomorrow.

Leg press
400x15
500x15
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700x15

Leg curl
105x15
125x13
145x11

Leg abducter/addiction (superset)
90x15
110x13
130x11

Leg extension
130x15
150x13
170x11

Seated calf raise
90x15x4

Seated shoulder press
115x15
135x15
135x12
135x10

Front delt raise
20x15
25x15
30x12

Horizontal delt raise
25x15
30x15
35x12

Rear delt raise
30x15
35x15
40x12

Upright rows
95x15
115x15
135x12
 
So weekly recap (this will be a normal thing every week) so this week I have been doing injections eod at night, I also took .25ml prami some time as injection. I noticed doing this caused sleeping issues, especially if I didn't intake enough carbs throughout the day. The trans winny which I have been applying to inner bicep and chest leaves the skin really dry. Despite training to tone/shape muscles and cut fat, I have gained 6lbs. Muscles seem to have better shape and definition has increased slightly as well as better vascularity. This week ill be applying 1.2ml of the winny to inner thigh each morning (as oppose to 1ml every night) I will also be upping the tren from 50eod to 50ed taking in the morning. I am upping hcgenerate from 5caps/day to 6 (3/am 3/pm) as well as n2gaurd from 7caps/day to 8 (4/am 4/pm) I will be changing my diet a little and going with the same amount of food but less meals (going from 9 meals a day to 7 meals a day) I will also be cutting out more fats and adding more proteins, ill keep the carbs the same unless I need them. I have glucose tabs on have as well as some yogurt that I can sprinkle some M&Ms in to help regulate blood sugar (and cause it taste good!!!!) stay tuned later for my gym update!
 
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm m&ms.

Chocolate = my weakness. Def the one thing I miss right now!
 
keep up the good posts bro!
 
Update for chest day. Slept pretty well and overall well being is pretty good despite the crap life has thrown at me lately. I'm feeling more and more aggression by the day so we will see how that goes. In the gym I felt unstoppable, even if I couldn't finish a rep I would just do a negative rep with it. Hitting some new records already after just a week.

Incline dumbbell press
60x15
70x15
75x12
75x11(11was a negative)

Incline dumbbell fly
30x15
35x15
40x15

Flat dumbbell press
60x15
70x15
75x12
80x12

Flat dumbbell fly
35x15
40x15
45x15

Seated dumbbell overhead tri press
80x15
95x15
110x14

Cable rope tri ext
80x15
90x15
100x15

Reverse cable tri ext
70x15
90x15
110x15
 
solid workout man. I'm curious what's your workout split for any given week?
 
Monday-chest/tri
Tuesday-back/bi
Wednesday-legs/shoulders
Thursday-chest/tri
Friday-back/bi
Saturday-legs/shoulders
Sunday-off
 
So each group two times a week. That's how Arnold did it, I've been thinking about switching to that but I haven't done it yet
 
Yea I just started this one about 4 weeks ago. But Monday has a different workout than Thursday and that's the sane with everything.
 
You feel like its workin well for you? Like recovery is still adequate for each group?
 
Yea plenty of time for recovery. I have noticed I have a better shape, but ill credit the food, intense training, and obviously the AAS for that. I'm sure it doesn't really matter what split you do as long as your switching up every so often, I switch every 8-10 weeks or so.
 
Could you give me a break down of shoulder/legs day.. I train legs twice a week but one day is all quad orientated while the other is strictly for hams.. just seeing how other people do it

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bonacris said:
Could you give me a break down of shoulder/legs day.. I train legs twice a week but one day is all quad orientated while the other is strictly for hams.. just seeing how other people do it

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I'm currently cutting/shaping so here is legs:

Wed;
Hack squat 4x15
Leg ext 4x15
Leg curl 4x15
Standing calf raise 4x15
Seated Dumbbell shoulder press 4x15
Front shoulder db raise 4x15
Side shoulder db raise 4x15
Rear delt db raise 4x15
Dumbbell shrugs 4x15

Sat;
Leg press 4x15
Abductor 4x15
Adductor 4x15
Seated calf raise 4x15
Seated bb shoulder press 4x15
Front bb shoulder raise
Side shoulder raise 4x15 (isolation machine)
Rear delt fly 4x15
Bb shrug 4x15


Doesn't look like much but legs are pumped out in about 35 minutes. Real intense 15-30 sec rest break. While workout is less than 1.5 hrs to include cardio.
 
Def feel on, gym is fkn intense and I want to slaughter weights. I get winded extremely easy so ill be working towards better cardiovascular endurance, or try to. I'm trying to hold aggression in but yesterday one if my marines pissed me off and I literally threw a chair at him. I feel fuller bigger vascular and defined. I love tren!

Pull ups
BWx15x4

Wide grip tbar row
45x15
65x15
80x11
90x12

Close grip lat pull
120x15
140x15
160x12
180x12

Seated mid row
90x15
130x15
160x12
180x12

Wide grip bb curl
40x15
50x15
60x12
70x12

Close grip preacher curl
55x15
65x15
75x12
75x12

Forearm work/cardio
 
Last night was, well, wet. I sweat so much last night, I actually changed the sheets and took a shower in the middle of the night. Seeing results daily. I noticed today my calves have increased a good amount, shoulders are rounder and have better caps, triceps exploded. Chest looks tighter, back wider and overall definition and vascularity had increased significantly. No appetitie change and the small tweaks I did seem to help with the low sugar/carb issues that are associated with tren. I'm thirsty as hell though, already 2 gallons deep!!! Sex drive is through the fkn roof to! If my woman so much as touches a hip and ready for action, guessing that's prami doing its job.

Hack squat
90x15
180x15
270x12
360x12

Leg ext
90x15
110x15
130x12

Leg curl
100x15
115x15
130x12

Standing calf raise
90x15
90x15
140x15
140x15

Bb shoulder press
70x15
90x15
110x15
120x15

Straight bar front delt raise
60x15
70x13
80x11

Side lateral raise (machine)
65x15
80x13
95x11

Rear delt raise
25x15
35x13
45x11

Bb shrugs
135x15
225x15
275x12
275x12
 
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Today was a terrible day. Had my first run in with the 'Tren Monster' today. I went to go buy a hitch for my truck because I needed to tow my bike to the repair shop (spilled it and finally have money to repair it) So I go buy what I need and go out to put it in the receiver, well the guy I bought the truck off of decided to leave the pin lock in and I dont have the key. Fucking pissed me off. So then I had to go to uhaul and get a truck/motorcycle trailer, come home and attempt to load the bike. bike fell over as its going up but no worries since it was getting repaired anyways, THEN it falls over on the other side and smashes an air cleaner that I had put on maybe 3 months ago, Mind you this is a 2012 Harley, parts arent cheap. Anyways get everything loaded up finally and off I go. Get to the shop and theyre CLOSED!! ugh pissed the fuck off. As I'm driving off I see him pull up and I dropped the bike off. So by this times I have already missed two meals, I say fuck it and head towards buffalo wild wings (ultimate cheat meal) ate 18 wings (60cent wing day) and head to the gym 45 min later. Felt tired and sloppy at the gym so wasnt to great although still hit new weights. I decided to look up the caloric value of my feast, came out to 2400 cals, 108g fat, 252 carbs, and 90g protein. The sodium was over 8000mg (no i really meant 8 THOUSAND) i felt like having a heartattack when I saw that number. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have a better day

smith incline press
135x15
165x15
185x12
195x12

smith flat press
135x15
175x15
205x12
205x12

smith decline press
135x15
175x15
205x12
215x12

incline cable fly
30x15
40x15
50x15

flat cable fly
40x15
50x15
50x12

decline cable fly
40x15
50x15
60x12

overhead tri press
80x15
95x15
110x12

dips
BWx15x3

single arm cable reverse tri ext
50x15
60x15
70x15

then light abs and cardio
 
Lmao! Not that bad. BWW is amazing, I actually had 18 on my last cheat too lol
 
Ugh rage all day! I now know I'm on, doesn't take anything to flip the switch. Vascularity through the roof, definition improving, feel strong as hell. Loving cycle so far!

Deads
135x15
225x15
275x15
315x8

Wide grip lat pull
120x15
140x15
160x15
180x15

Close grip tbar row
45x15
90x15
115x15
135x15

Wide grip lat push down
70x15
80x15
90x15
100x15

Seated db curl
20x15
25x15
30x15

Cable high curl
30x15
40x15
50x15

Standing bb curl
55x15x3

Forearm curls
45x15
55x15
60x15

And of course cardio
 
Great log bro keep it up!

You got me craving wings after that BWW post...

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Update for yesterday. Cycle feels really good, I've gained mass definition and vascularity everywhere. Aggression is through the roof and I need to get a handle on it (even though I sorta like it) ppl at my gym are noticing the huge increase in size and I'm pretty sure ppl are questioning whether I juice or not (only my source and gf know I'm on) strength is about the same but I can rep out more. I think I may be better off next time I use tren to use it for a bulk not a cut, which will be my next run. Thinking Tren E 12 wks, EQ 14 wks, Test E 16 wks, try and break that 200lb barrier (remember, I'm only 5'5") stepped on the scale this morning at 177.5 (was 173 at the start with intentions to cut) but noticeably leaner and more muscle so obviously no complaints. Loving how tren and winny work together, although the aggression gets a little rediculous sometimes. It takes nothing to make me rage, and rage hard. But then I calm down pretty quickly after I tell myself 'it's just the juice'.

Leg press
360x15
540x15
720x15
900x12

Thigh adductor
90x15
110x15
130x15
150x15

Thigh abducter
90x15
110x15
120x15
130x15

Smith Standing Calf Raises
135x15
165x15
195x15
225x15

Seated db press
50x15
60x15
65x15

Front side rear delt raise (giant set)
20x15
25x15
30x15

Upright row
55x15
85x15
115x12
 
Yeah I can't imagine how my bitch levels would be on tren lol

Jealous though that the boys have such a powerful compound. Maybe that's my calling...to formulate a compound that powerful for women
 
Weekly update. I think my body would react better to tren while bulking. I started two weeks ago at 173, 1 week in i was at 180, this week is same weight with more noticeable definition as well as a huge increase in mass. Vascularity is getting rediculous. Strength is showing decent improvement although I'm going more for reps (remember. I had planned to tone) I'm contemplating lowering reps for two weeks and see what kind of strength I can get. Everything this past week has exploded! Sex drive is incredible as well as 'hardness' feels like in a teenager again. GF is loving it (so far) Tren gives me night sweats on the regular but no other sides really. Winny leaves my head pounding when I wake up but once I get food in I'm good. Still dosing tren at .5ml/day and winny at 1.2ml/day. N2gaurd will be increased to 10caps/day and hcgenerate is going to 8caps/day. Ill be increasing prami to .5ml/e3d. I'm eating clean as a wistle, save for 2/3 cheat meals a week. This is seems to have become more of a lean bulk instead of a cut. I'm contemplating upping my food intake accordingly and just go lean bulk for the remaining 4 weeks. If so ill be attempting to achieve 190-195 post cycle weight. Ultimate goal for me is 200@15% (or less of course) by the time I turn 25 (about 11 months from now)
 
So this week I decided I'm going heavy. And I beat alot of old records. I've been going light for about 6 weeks now so I was actually impressed with what I pushed. Got called in to work so I couldn't hit abs or cardio. Pushed through this workout in about 50 minutes so it was rather intense.

Incline db press
60x8
70x8
80x8
95x6

Incline db fly
30x8
40x8
50x8

Flat db press
70x8
80x8
90x8
105x6 (my last record for this was 100x4, ill be going for 110 next week)

Flat db fly
40x8
50x8
60x8

Skull crushers
70x8
80x8
90x8

Tri rope ext
100x8
130x8
150x8

Close grip tri push down
150x8
180x8
200x8
 
I've run winny before.. didn't get headaches but joint pain was another issue.

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Jesus Christ I'm getting bad headaches on winny and just started...might quit
 
bonacris said:
I've run winny before.. didn't get headaches but joint pain was another issue.

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To be honest I haven't noticed any joint pain, using transdermal so I don't know how that would effect the joints (I would expect the exact same way)

On a good note, out of my 13 injections so far, not one time have I got tren cough.
 
seandh07 said:
To be honest I haven't noticed any joint pain, using transdermal so I don't know how that would effect the joints (I would expect the exact same way)

On a good note, out of my 13 injections so far, not one time have I got tren cough.
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Can that be avoided by avoiding pinning quads.. or can it happen anytime?

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