Tren went cloudy?

[Mh48500]

I appreciate all the input. I have made a lot of fina conversions and always done it without the BB, always held fine. SInce this was my first tren conversion from powder I was a little thrown when it went cloudy after a day. I personally have never seen tren crash, test yes a ton of times, so I wasnt sure if it would crystallize like test. Anyways I did refilter, although I added 3% bb....i know I should have refiltered and then if it didnt hold..add BB.

Anyways, I am going to remix another 2 grams(20ml) and see how it goes. I will prbably prefilter with a .45, then the .2. I knw a lot of people say it is not necessary but Whatman have a prefilter in their gdx/pvdf and I accidentally order what I thought were WHatmans and they were not...Believe it or not I cannot find syringe filters in this country. When I remix I will post and hopefully it was just a bad filter and not the base powder. I think the powder is good since I have been runiing this since I mixed it and feels good.

 

[goin on 4T]

I appreciate all the input. I have made a lot of fina conversions and always done it without the BB, always held fine. SInce this was my first tren conversion from powder I was a little thrown when it went cloudy after a day. I personally have never seen tren crash, test yes a ton of times, so I wasnt sure if it would crystallize like test. Anyways I did refilter, although I added 3% bb....i know I should have refiltered and then if it didnt hold..add BB.

Anyways, I am going to remix another 2 grams(20ml) and see how it goes. I will prbably prefilter with a .45, then the .2. I knw a lot of people say it is not necessary but Whatman have a prefilter in their gdx/pvdf and I accidentally order what I thought were WHatmans and they were not...Believe it or not I cannot find syringe filters in this country. When I remix I will post and hopefully it was just a bad filter and not the base powder. I think the powder is good since I have been runiing this since I mixed it and feels good.

I didn't mean the powder was bad as in its no good. What I meant was the powder has more impurities than it should. (The term is Assey % it was probably in the low 90% range. It still good and works fine even dirty, the dirty are agents that the chemist uses due to conditions beyond their control to bind the ester to the tren. This is an ASSumption on my part.)

 

[Mh48500]

I didn't mean the powder was bad as in its no good. What I meant was the powder has more impurities than it should. (The term is Assey % it was probably in the low 90% range. It still good and works fine even dirty, the dirty are agents that the chemist uses due to conditions beyond their control to bind the ester to the tren. This is an ASSumption on my part.)

It sounds like a very good assumption, thanks....especially since I believe your opinions are based on experience and knowledge.

So a question...even with a .2 filter I will miss some stuff? I think you also suggested filtering at room temp instead of warming it up? I will give it a go. Like I said I have been using for over a week and feels good, strong. Again Bro, thanks for the input!

 

[semper03]

It sounds like a very good assumption, thanks....especially since I believe your opinions are based on experience and knowledge.

So a question...even with a .2 filter I will miss some stuff? I think you also suggested filtering at room temp instead of warming it up? I will give it a go. Like I said I have been using for over a week and feels good, strong. Again Bro, thanks for the input!

I always use .45 um and have never missed anything so far. When I didn't have a syringe filter I used a micro-perforated coffee filter to remove the binders from the pellets.

 

[goin on 4T]

It sounds like a very good assumption, thanks....especially since I believe your opinions are based on experience and knowledge.

So a question...even with a .2 filter I will miss some stuff? I think you also suggested filtering at room temp instead of warming it up? I will give it a go. Like I said I have been using for over a week and feels good, strong. Again Bro, thanks for the input!

Filtering cold was the only way to get the damn stuff clear and the filter was a Whatman Polycap 75mm AS, for those of you not too familiar with that filter its pretty amazing. It does easily 6 Liters in 1 hour. So it is pretty good.
I don't know it all, I just know what has had to happen so that it will work the simplest for easy replication. There is no inventing going on that is for sure.

 

[Mh48500]

I always use .45 um and have never missed anything so far. When I didn't have a syringe filter I used a micro-perforated coffee filter to remove the binders from the pellets.

The only difference here is that it is powder, not pellets so I am probably worrying too much. At least with the pellets there is a comfort level of knowing 100% that it is tren, or methyl cellulose. Not that I overly doubt my powder supplier, he has been good so far, but I was throwing it out there to be a little more sure.

 

[goin on 4T]

What doesn't make sense?

I make mine in batches of 20 or 50ml dosed at 100mg/ml.

When making 20ml of tren use 2G of powder and 2% BA.
For 50ml use 5G of powder and 5% BA (2.5ml).

It holds wonderfully and goes in smooth. I've even used 6ml of BA for 20ml and it was great just had a little burn when I started injecting.

What doesn't make sense is why you would double the % of BA used.
So if you made a 1,000ml than you would use about 50% BA?
There is no reason to increase BA%

20ml @ 2% = .4ml
50ml @ 2% = 1ml
1,000ml @ 2% = 20ml

The percentage should stay the same and the amount increases perportionaltly to the final ml...

 

[goin on 4T]

I always use .45 um and have never missed anything so far. When I didn't have a syringe filter I used a micro-perforated coffee filter to remove the binders from the pellets.

You don't know if you have missed anything using a .45 filter. The difference is significant. I am glad you have not gotten an infection, but please don't have others thinking that .45 is good enough. Its not good enough. This isn't a game of darts or handgernades. Its either sterile or it isn't.

PLEASE DON'T POST THAT .45 IS GOOD ENOUGH AGAIN. ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

 

[Mh48500]

Filtering cold was the only way to get the damn stuff clear and the filter was a Whatman Polycap 75mm AS, for those of you not too familiar with that filter its pretty amazing. It does easily 6 Liters in 1 hour. So it is pretty good.
I don't know it all, I just know what has had to happen so that it will work the simplest for easy replication. There is no inventing going on that is for sure.

Sweet, I hadnt seen that before...it even goes down to 0.1um, and has a gmf prefilter. Dude I cant get a normal Whatman in Mexico...I am guessing that even more out of the question, hahahha!

 

[semper03]

What doesn't make sense is why you would double the % of BA used.
So if you made a 1,000ml than you would use about 50% BA?
There is no reason to increase BA%

20ml @ 2% = .4ml
50ml @ 2% = 1ml
1,000ml @ 2% = 20ml

The percentage should stay the same and the amount increases perportionaltly to the final ml...

1ml per 5g of tren powder is not going to dissolve, at best you'll have glue. Not to mention the added heat. 2.5 works great. There is no harm in adding a little more.