TREN E suggestions?

[east coast]

nice and its my first time with the prop too always used dbol to kick off my t cycles if anything and not really liking it. im literally sitting on my left ass cheek only right now. you know of a wa to do prop where it hurts less? if not this is my last time with the prop i have no problem with ed injections, im used to it but not pain like this i though ti caught staff again at first

 

[gautho]

absolutely foolish to do tren and deca together! Hope you don't have a girlfriend?

 

[Nomak666]

nice and its my first time with the prop too always used dbol to kick off my t cycles if anything and not really liking it. im literally sitting on my left ass cheek only right now. you know of a wa to do prop where it hurts less? if not this is my last time with the prop i have no problem with ed injections, im used to it but not pain like this i though ti caught staff again at first

buy some ethyl oleate and cut the prop with a 1:1 mixture or a .5:1 mixture. it took out alot of the pain. another way is to get prop that is made with a blend of oil and ethyl oleate instead of just oil. thats how i got rid of the pain.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

that's a lot of juice man......

I wouldnt use that much untill I was like almost national level competing.. maybe not even then..

maybe that's just me..

 

[ArmaniAK47]

also,

Estrogen will up regulate androgen receptors, do you use a lot of anti e's?

 

[Nomak666]

that's a lot of juice man......

I wouldnt use that much untill I was like almost national level competing.. maybe not even then..

maybe that's just me..

Depends how you look at it. An effective dose for tren e is 300-500mg every week, 400-600mg of deca, and test should be close to the dose of tren and deca put together so libido wont be an issue, so imo, its not a begginer cycle but its no where even close to what top ameteurs and pros use. im a firm believer in anti estrogen in every cycle. aromasin or letro at a low dose should keep most estro related sides away.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Depends how you look at it. An effective dose for tren e is 300-500mg every week, 400-600mg of deca, and test should be close to the dose of tren and deca put together so libido wont be an issue, so imo, its not a begginer cycle but its no where even close to what top ameteurs and pros use. im a firm believer in anti estrogen in every cycle. aromasin or letro at a low dose should keep most estro related sides away.

maybe your system and mine respond differently..

but I can gain on 300mgs of test and 20mg of dbol a day, at my biggest I only took anadrol 50mg/day by itself and I gained a lot.. my arms were 19.5 (albeit somewhat puffy) and I was benching 265 for sets, a personal best..

have you tried cycles without anti-e's ? Everything I've read says moderate estro helps with gains and receptors..

 

[Nomak666]

maybe your system and mine respond differently..

but I can gain on 300mgs of test and 20mg of dbol a day, at my biggest I only took anadrol 50mg/day by itself and I gained a lot.. my arms were 19.5 (albeit somewhat puffy) and I was benching 265 for sets, a personal best..

have you tried cycles without anti-e's ? Everything I've read says moderate estro helps with gains and receptors..

I can grow on 250mg of test as well. its all in the diet.

ive done cycles without any ai's. i get a small lump behind my nipple when i take test, so thats why i take ai's on cycle. ai's dont kill all the estrogen, but letro kills about 98% of it. thats wy i stick with a low dose because your body does need estrogen for normal functions.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I can grow on 250mg of test as well. its all in the diet.

ive done cycles without any ai's. i get a small lump behind my nipple when i take test, so thats why i take ai's on cycle. ai's dont kill all the estrogen, but letro kills about 98% of it. thats wy i stick with a low dose because your body does need estrogen for normal functions.

I see.
Sounds good to me. all in that balance..

 

[gautho]

2 harsh known 19 Nors on the libido just isn't necessary....at any level. But if you insist? I would at minimal double the test dose to tren dose! Consider dropping the deca(one 19 nor) and adding a C-17 alpha alkylated.