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TREN E suggestions?

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east coast

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the cycle ive chosen to do is as follows
200 mg tren e wice weekly
100 mg test prop ed
300 mg deca twice weekly
week 2 im going to mix in 250 test e
week 4 im switching from the prop to 250 mg test e three times weekly
week 8 dropping the tren
week 10 starting hcg
week 12 pct
thoughts? suggestions? what results have people had with tren e vs ace?
 
And my diet is gonna more or less consist of cottage cheese veggies and steak. mmmmm. i mean like three tubs of cottage cheese a day. seriously.
 
east coast said:
the cycle ive chosen to do is as follows
200 mg tren e wice weekly
100 mg test prop ed
300 mg deca twice weekly
week 2 im going to mix in 250 test e
week 4 im switching from the prop to 250 mg test e three times weekly
week 8 dropping the tren
week 10 starting hcg
week 12 pct
thoughts? suggestions? what results have people had with tren e vs ace?
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400-500mg per wk of TREN ENAN should work real well for you.
 
I'm running almost the exact same cycle except my doses are higher. test/tren/deca is an excellent combo.

But why are you using test p when you can use test c or e and pin every 4th day instead of ed?
 
im just runnin the prop as a starter so i dont got that lag of the blast off of test e, im about to skrew that sh!t tho because it hurts. i cant sit on my right cheek right now not enjoyin it. never run prop before and never will again unless someone can clue me into how to use this crap without the pain. plus you think i should dose a little higher? i am no beginner to aas and dont want to cheat myself and do too little
 
prop is a good idea with tren enthanate...i have always ran Ace but i like shirt esters especially if i was running deca...
 
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why do you say that i mean i purchased it your sayin i should just throw it out or use this 10ml and switch to test e cuz i cant put hands on cyp
 
good cycle but start the test e and prop same day..dont wait or you will have dip in levels once prop is out

750 test
600 deca
500 tren
thast some decent doses there...im basically doing the same but im doing eq also and lower test (all the test i had)
 
If you want a good jumpstart you should frontload your compounds. I'd rather do that then stick myself with prop ed.
 
im 225 but its not how big i am its my history ive done ovr ten cycles and already had my receptors shut down once on my strongest cycle i was doin about 1500 ew of test e 1200 ew of deca now since my receptors shut down i gave them a good break and now i want to start out not too strong not too weak. hell im happy my balls still work. i found its just like drinking when your 15 5 beers get you hammered when your 25 it takes 20.
 
Receptor saturation is a myth man

Edit: with AAS at least, not stimulants and such.
 
east coast said:
im 225 but its not how big i am its my history ive done ovr ten cycles and already had my receptors shut down once on my strongest cycle i was doin about 1500 ew of test e 1200 ew of deca now since my receptors shut down i gave them a good break and now i want to start out not too strong not too weak. hell im happy my balls still work. i found its just like drinking when your 15 5 beers get you hammered when your 25 it takes 20.
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That's retarded......what next 2000/ew? Are you sure you're gear is legit? Holy fuck them are big doses I'm not giving any advice in this thread no more lol
 
your cycle is fine. 750mg of test e/400mg of tren/600mg of deca. start the test e the same time as the prop. run the prop for 4-5 weeks to let the test enanthate build up. no need to shoot 3 times a week. shoot test e/tren e/deca in the same syringe either every 4th day or twice a week like monday and thursday. you should run the tren enanthate for 10 weeks, tren ace cycles are usually around 8 weeks, so i think yoll be selling yourself short doing only 8 weeks of tren e since you start feeling the effects and results at the 4-5 week mark just like test e.
 
it might have been in my head then or gotten a under dosed bottle but this was before i joined elite fitness so i had no one o ask is this true not true you know so ijust jumped into pct. everyone said oh your receptors shut down i started losing weight on test e so i was like wtf and feared for my natural test production and those stupid high doses were when i didnt know anything bout juice and was gettin it dirt cheap and had a great go big or go home attitude. glad my natural production came back after those thats why i get spooked so easily
 
thanks nomak666 for the advice, the only thing in the cycle thats new to me here is the tren and im askin you guys to fill me in on how the stack looks suggestions and so forth, not that you all have not been very helpful you have. ive been using aas for the better part of a decade and have learned little about because iive been keeping it a secret and the only person who new was who i got it from and we know what there agenda is
 
east coast said:
thanks nomak666 for the advice, the only thing in the cycle thats new to me here is the tren and im askin you guys to fill me in on how the stack looks suggestions and so forth, not that you all have not been very helpful you have. ive been using aas for the better part of a decade and have learned little about because iive been keeping it a secret and the only person who new was who i got it from and we know what there agenda is
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Many people suggest tren ace for first time users because if sides are too much, then you can just drop it. the first time i used tren, i used enanthate. most begginners arent gonna want to inject every other day with tren ace, thats one of the main reasons why alot of first time tren users, use enanthate. tren ace is also stronger from what ive read, mg for mg and also the sides. many people reported less sides from enanthate, no tren cough, minimal cardio suppression, no night sweats and minor insomnia if any. id say, since your running test enanthate and deca anyways, you may as well use tren enanthate and not tren ace so you can save yourself the eod pins. if you do get sides from tren enanthate, just drop it, itll take a few weeks to get out of your system but i think youll be fine.
 
nice and its my first time with the prop too always used dbol to kick off my t cycles if anything and not really liking it. im literally sitting on my left ass cheek only right now. you know of a wa to do prop where it hurts less? if not this is my last time with the prop i have no problem with ed injections, im used to it but not pain like this i though ti caught staff again at first
 
east coast said:
nice and its my first time with the prop too always used dbol to kick off my t cycles if anything and not really liking it. im literally sitting on my left ass cheek only right now. you know of a wa to do prop where it hurts less? if not this is my last time with the prop i have no problem with ed injections, im used to it but not pain like this i though ti caught staff again at first
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buy some ethyl oleate and cut the prop with a 1:1 mixture or a .5:1 mixture. it took out alot of the pain. another way is to get prop that is made with a blend of oil and ethyl oleate instead of just oil. thats how i got rid of the pain.
 
that's a lot of juice man......

I wouldnt use that much untill I was like almost national level competing.. maybe not even then..

maybe that's just me..
 
ArmaniAK47 said:
that's a lot of juice man......

I wouldnt use that much untill I was like almost national level competing.. maybe not even then..

maybe that's just me..
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Depends how you look at it. An effective dose for tren e is 300-500mg every week, 400-600mg of deca, and test should be close to the dose of tren and deca put together so libido wont be an issue, so imo, its not a begginer cycle but its no where even close to what top ameteurs and pros use. im a firm believer in anti estrogen in every cycle. aromasin or letro at a low dose should keep most estro related sides away.
 
Nomak666 said:
Depends how you look at it. An effective dose for tren e is 300-500mg every week, 400-600mg of deca, and test should be close to the dose of tren and deca put together so libido wont be an issue, so imo, its not a begginer cycle but its no where even close to what top ameteurs and pros use. im a firm believer in anti estrogen in every cycle. aromasin or letro at a low dose should keep most estro related sides away.
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maybe your system and mine respond differently..

but I can gain on 300mgs of test and 20mg of dbol a day, at my biggest I only took anadrol 50mg/day by itself and I gained a lot.. my arms were 19.5 (albeit somewhat puffy) and I was benching 265 for sets, a personal best..

have you tried cycles without anti-e's ? Everything I've read says moderate estro helps with gains and receptors..
 
ArmaniAK47 said:
maybe your system and mine respond differently..

but I can gain on 300mgs of test and 20mg of dbol a day, at my biggest I only took anadrol 50mg/day by itself and I gained a lot.. my arms were 19.5 (albeit somewhat puffy) and I was benching 265 for sets, a personal best..

have you tried cycles without anti-e's ? Everything I've read says moderate estro helps with gains and receptors..
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I can grow on 250mg of test as well. its all in the diet.

ive done cycles without any ai's. i get a small lump behind my nipple when i take test, so thats why i take ai's on cycle. ai's dont kill all the estrogen, but letro kills about 98% of it. thats wy i stick with a low dose because your body does need estrogen for normal functions.
 
Nomak666 said:
I can grow on 250mg of test as well. its all in the diet.

ive done cycles without any ai's. i get a small lump behind my nipple when i take test, so thats why i take ai's on cycle. ai's dont kill all the estrogen, but letro kills about 98% of it. thats wy i stick with a low dose because your body does need estrogen for normal functions.
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I see.
Sounds good to me. all in that balance.. :)
 
2 harsh known 19 Nors on the libido just isn't necessary....at any level. But if you insist? I would at minimal double the test dose to tren dose! Consider dropping the deca(one 19 nor) and adding a C-17 alpha alkylated.
 
I have to say that I prefer tren-E much more than Tren-a. The results are the same, just less pinning and no tren cough. Sides seem to be a bit less except for aggression. Sweats and sleelessness are still there just not quite as bad. The aggression is very intense though. Sometimes I feel a little nuts and I've been getting very jealous about shit my gf tells me and I usually don't give a fuck. I'm pretty good at keeping my cool though even though. I'm just glad people don't know what I really feel like. lol
 
IMO that's too much juice.
98% of the gains are in the diet not how much gear you take. Eat eat eat and train low reps super heavy

This is more like what I would do:
400mg tren ace EW
400mg prop EW
300mg cyp EW
 
i am gonna go with you sugg heyez thankyou. but i thing im gonna go with one G of test e weekly and phase out the prop slow enough i dont have dips, 2.5 weeks in and im showing gains put up 405 on flat yesterday from my 385 weeks before. i think im going to just do slow rep sets with 315 for bench and heavy dumbells and brake out with 450 or more on flat come week 6 or 7. and other exercises im doing the weights seem lighter than they used to but im not going to go super heavy on them until around the end of my cycle to see the progress i made (i like my joints)
 
and yeah my agression is through the roof i trie3d to fight a bunch of 21 or 22 year olds because they were being very disrespectful to an elderly friend of mine at the bar (i wasnt drinking there just hanging out) never felt rage like this on any aas before i could do 1.5 g a week of test and still be happy go lucky
 
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