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Elite_Fry
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when training for more muscle/size... do you go 6-8 reps or 8-12??
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thanks
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Elite_Fry
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someone told me 6-8 is only good for gaining strength, but u wont gain much size...
not true?
not true?
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Elite_Fry
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i would have guessed it be easier to type the 4 or 5 characters to answer the question...
can anyone please give me a serious response
can anyone please give me a serious response
Peyote Killa
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I have researched this same question and found that your muscle response is very different when you cut chort at 6-8 reps.
From what I have read and studied, depending on how long it takes you to do one single rep, if you don't do more than 8 your muscles have not been stimulated long enough to release the agent or hormone it takes for gaining size. This is the principle on what olympic wreslters train on, so they can maintain there weight but still continue to gain strength.
Where as when you exeed your reps to 10 or 12 you begin to release more hormone and then your muscles are more prone to grow in size and strength.
Of Course this is only what I have learned in school, and read in various books, but that does not make it 100% true, you still need to experiment with your workouts and try different things, but this should start you off fairly well.
From what I have read and studied, depending on how long it takes you to do one single rep, if you don't do more than 8 your muscles have not been stimulated long enough to release the agent or hormone it takes for gaining size. This is the principle on what olympic wreslters train on, so they can maintain there weight but still continue to gain strength.
Where as when you exeed your reps to 10 or 12 you begin to release more hormone and then your muscles are more prone to grow in size and strength.
Of Course this is only what I have learned in school, and read in various books, but that does not make it 100% true, you still need to experiment with your workouts and try different things, but this should start you off fairly well.
Pk what most of the books don't go into is muscle contraction under the pressure of a given rep. Most assume someone does a rep in 2 - 3 seconds.
What I do is two sets of 15 - 20 reps for a warm up on a given body part, then everything after that is in the 6- 8 rep range with about a three seconds up phase and a nice five to seven second resistance phase.
Compare
Seconds Per Rep * Reps = Time under stress
3 - 4 * 12 = 36 - 48 seconds under stress
6 -8 * 8 = 48 - 64 seconds under stress.
After all it's the time spent under stress that causes the muscle to respond futher.
Just my thinking.
What I do is two sets of 15 - 20 reps for a warm up on a given body part, then everything after that is in the 6- 8 rep range with about a three seconds up phase and a nice five to seven second resistance phase.
Compare
Seconds Per Rep * Reps = Time under stress
3 - 4 * 12 = 36 - 48 seconds under stress
6 -8 * 8 = 48 - 64 seconds under stress.
After all it's the time spent under stress that causes the muscle to respond futher.
Just my thinking.
Peyote Killa
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WODIN said:
You are exactly right, and if you read my post again you will notice in my second sentence I stated that it all depends on how long it takes the individual to do one single rep. We are on the same page bro, that gives me more confidence. So thanks for the backing of my statement.
Solid shibby!!!Peyote Killa
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SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!
So there you have it Flubberboy, you got the same answer from old school and new school. You should be on your way to success, unless of course you talk to Havoc, you will have you all messed up.
Sorry Wodin about the old school thing but when you are as old as you (64) you are old school. I know you look like a 48 year old, but even 48 is up there.
You can fuck with me if you want, I'm sorry for calling out your true age, but remember that if you fuck with me, then you are fucking with a child, a child that will out run any old man.
Luv ya Wodin, you are soooooo coooooool!!!!!!!
So there you have it Flubberboy, you got the same answer from old school and new school. You should be on your way to success, unless of course you talk to Havoc, you will have you all messed up.
Sorry Wodin about the old school thing but when you are as old as you (64) you are old school. I know you look like a 48 year old, but even 48 is up there.
You can fuck with me if you want, I'm sorry for calling out your true age, but remember that if you fuck with me, then you are fucking with a child, a child that will out run any old man.
Luv ya Wodin, you are soooooo coooooool!!!!!!!
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Elite_Fry
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64 years old???? wow. is he the oldest on this board?
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and thanks a lot everyone for the responses
Peyote Killa
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flubberboy said:
No bro, he is not THAT old. I think he is in his early thirties, actually I'm not even sure, just someone I work with told me to hassle him about his age. He is one cool mofo.
And you are welcome for the info., now go try it out, and me what happens.
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1911
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Yup! Although there are too many variables to answer this question on a per individual basis the general answer is: Time under tension = growth.
Later,
WODIN (or anone else that can answer): question- if you extend the time under each rep (3 sec up, 5 down) how do you maintain fast twitch muscles, or explosivness?
i know its only the positive part of the lift that matters, but if that is 3 seconds will that still promote fast twitch muscle?
i know its only the positive part of the lift that matters, but if that is 3 seconds will that still promote fast twitch muscle?
MrMuscle said:
i remember you saying a higher rep range may make muscles appear less full.
wahh!
i remember peope saying in the past power = 1-4, size = 5-8 stamina/endurance/toning = 8-12 or morewhile i dont always adhere to this (as i generally goes with what works for me and the equipment i got) i always thought this was true
if your going to failure does it matter all that much
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