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I hope the 3D makes the CGI look less.....CGI.
I hope the 3D makes the CGI look less.....CGI.
Trailer for James Cameron's Avatar
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needtogetarmy
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I hate to say it but I am not impressed.
Now the question is...is it because it was built up too much?
I will admit that Cameron's epiphany of his liquid metal Terminator probably originated with ideas from The Abyss, and that Michael Biehn probably gave the performance of his life (I didn't even recognize it was him, much like not realizing Josh Brolin was Llewelyn Moss in Coen bros, No Country....).
needtogetarmy
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The Abyss was good.
I don't play into the hype all that much. There have been trailers that move me (like 300 made me want to go fight Persians the first time I saw it) but this one did nothing. When I saw the Avatar and the alien kissing in the end I was like its damn claymation, blah.
I won't cast judgment on the movie yet because I have seen shitty previews and the movies turned out good. I am not going to rush to the movie theater to see this one though.
I don't play into the hype all that much. There have been trailers that move me (like 300 made me want to go fight Persians the first time I saw it) but this one did nothing. When I saw the Avatar and the alien kissing in the end I was like its damn claymation, blah.
I won't cast judgment on the movie yet because I have seen shitty previews and the movies turned out good. I am not going to rush to the movie theater to see this one though.
Apparently the 3D, which is how youre supposed to watch it, is pretty revolutionary.
Cameron spent the past 5 years or so coming up with it.
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
We'll find out soon if he wasted 5 years of his life.
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
This movie is going to be his Titanic. lol
ha.
i thought that movie blew too. what the fuck do i know, it only grossed $600 million.
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
Are there pictures or vids out there?
True story. Glad to see you came around.
cryptosporidium
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hollywood bores the shit out of me.
it does though. and he was real gay.
This movie would not be possible without cgi. Lol I suppose that means he just should never have even bothered. I've never understood the automatic disdain for technical effects, especially when they're representing a setting and characters that are out of this world, so to speak. Hell damn near everybody loved Terminator 2 and that was obviously cgi, and in a real-world setting no less.
This will be the most pristine looking thing anyone has seen on a screen pre-12/18 and it's built around groundbreaking 3D tech to back it up. Expecting a Quicktime trailer to do this movie justice is like eating a frozen pizza expecting it to taste homemade.
This will be the most pristine looking thing anyone has seen on a screen pre-12/18 and it's built around groundbreaking 3D tech to back it up. Expecting a Quicktime trailer to do this movie justice is like eating a frozen pizza expecting it to taste homemade.
cryptosporidium
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eye candy is no substitute for good writing and a worthwhile plot.
How can anyone expect to assess good writing and a worthwhile plot from a trailer? There have been more times when a trailer was made to sound far better than the movie actually was. I think in this movie's case at least, it's primarily a matter of most adult minds becoming too cynical to accept much of anything off the beaten path.
cryptosporidium
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i cant imagine anything by cameron being that far off the beaten path.. and i cant remember the last hollywood blockbuster to do so either. is it really that hard to assess that steaming pile of a trailer.. or am i just that much of a high brow cinema snob?
if the latter, well thats just fine by me too
if the latter, well thats just fine by me too
Razorguns
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Yeah but it alays looks good on blu ray, surround sound and 62" hdtv. (Plus hollywood cgi flicks do HUGE business in foreign countries whose local film industry can't create stuff like that. Chinese don't lineup to watch there will be blood or juno).
No one buys schindler's list to show off the power of their entertainment setup.
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needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
The Japs eat this shit up like it is candy. My bet is Avatar does well overseas.
Who knows, all we have seen is the trailer.
cryptosporidium
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if yur talking about dollars., thats another thing.
and its not even subjective
and its not even subjective
LMAO! RG, it must make big bucks. Very big. The budget on that fucker probably exceeded the GNP of Sweden.
Razorguns
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Word. These movies have enormous budgets cuz they always make them back in dvd, toys, comic books, hotel ppv, video games, fast food partnerships and worldwide ticket sales. Movies like 17 again and funny people make squat in comparison.
Plus fx houses like ilm and digital domain don't do this shit for cheap
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Plus fx houses like ilm and digital domain don't do this shit for cheap
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Very true. A good friend of mine lived in New Zealand for 3 years or so a while back b/c her husband worked for one of the CGI houses and they were doing it in NZ. Be Damned if I can remember what movie it was anymore, but he got very well paid and he was just one of about a zillion CGI grunts on that film.
Its just kinda dissapointing seeing as how District 9, no matter what you thought of the film, was able to create some of the most photorealistic CGI aliens Ive probably ever seen. On a budget of $30 million.
Avatar's budget has gone past $350 million already.
Razorguns
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avatar has lots matte painters, character artists, compositors, sound composers, etc.
District 9 really wasn't that involved. Just a team to build the alien and another to composite. the movie is primarily live action with some aliens thrown in some scenes. Avatar is 100x more complex and requires many companies in the mix.
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stosstruppe
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I don't have Apple. Anyone have a YouTube link that isn't a "rickroll"? Fucking irritating RRers.
Doesnt change the fact that the effects in District 9 appear to be years ahead of those in the Avatar trailer.
But, like I said, the movie was meant to be seen in 3D so perhaps we have to wait until then to judge.
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
District 9 looks realistic. Avatar looks like shit (so far) but I won't pass judgment until I see it.
Indeed. James Cameron hasn't made a bad movie, so it's easy to hold out hope.
That's probably because all three Lord Of The Rings films were made there and they need to get a lot of stuff done. I don't imagine it will stay that way unless other complex films decide to locate in NZ as well.
So, this is kinda OT, but I've always been interested in knowing which franchise (as a whole, so get out your statistical aids if you have them), Terminator or Alien, would everyone consider the best? IMO, I prefer Alien...each had their own vibe and I loved them all. I still haven't seen the 4th Terminator. Loved Cameron's but HATED the third one so that brings the average waaaay down. LOL
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Alien 1 = Brilliant.
Alien 2 = Perhaps surpasses Alien 1. Best pure action movie of all time.
Alien 3 = Fincher's first, very atmospheric and still extremely entertaining.
Alien 4 = Bleh.
Ridley Scott is making a prequel to Alien, FYI. Should be in theaters in 2-3 years.
Alien 2 = Perhaps surpasses Alien 1. Best pure action movie of all time.
Alien 3 = Fincher's first, very atmospheric and still extremely entertaining.
Alien 4 = Bleh.
Ridley Scott is making a prequel to Alien, FYI. Should be in theaters in 2-3 years.
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
You must also take into consideration when the first Alien movie came out. It is a masterpiece.
Terminator I was very good, especially for a low budget flick.
I also love Alien II just because of the Marines. Some of the scenes in that movie are awesome.
Terminator I was very good, especially for a low budget flick.
I also love Alien II just because of the Marines. Some of the scenes in that movie are awesome.
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