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too bad the "stereotype" thread was locked

hellorhih2o said:
it really would have been much more fun to see ignorance crash and burn on its own.

Some realities are too much for many people to deal with.
 
why get so worked up about a thread? different people have their stereotypes and prejudices. you are not going to change someone's mind no matter how fast and hard you type.

this is a good board for debate, but certain issues should be left alone.
 
I too wish it would have went on.

Although, I think everyone is somewhat racist whether they admit it or not.

Racism is a worldwide problem that has been with us since before recorded history. It isn't just white against black or black against white (although hate-mongers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will tell you a black person can't be a racist), but its usually portrayed as only an American/Southern problem.
 
Tarheel said:

Although, I think everyone is somewhat racist whether they admit it or not.


Agreed. Everyone is racist to a certain extent. If you were walking home late at night and you had to choose between going down an alley filled with a bunch of young Black guys dressed in their thug attire, or an alley filled with a bunch of white guys, what alley would you choose?

Thats what I thought.
 
Tarheel said:


Racism is a worldwide problem that has been with us since before recorded history. It isn't just white against black or black against white (although hate-mongers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will tell you a black person can't be a racist), but its usually portrayed as only an American/Southern problem.

yeah really....I love how some people from other countries seem to believe racism only occurs here in America.....complete BS. It's been around for thousands of years, and it sure didn't start here.

I guess it just falls in line with all the other reasons why America is the source of all the worlds problems....
 
Tarheel said:
I too wish it would have went on.

Although, I think everyone is somewhat racist whether they admit it or not.


Sure. Everyone judges the book by the cover and that's not only a question of race. It's gender, age, how you dress, what you drive, blah, blah. The problem is when you give in to it and not even try to see beyond your own lil' world.

Saying that judging the book by the cover is ok because everyone does it, that's like saying that it's ok to lie and cheat because everyone does it. That's a real low bar in my book.

But... what the hell. If people have already given in to the ugliest side of themselves and justify it in whatever way they see fit, there's not much you can do to make 'em see things differently.

I wasn't trying to change the world, I was just hoping I'd get a chance to pick apart the impossible arguments for racism (or whatever the hell it is) people come up with. It's kinda fun to see people back themselves into a corner and get all worked up about it. When they run out of arguments, they're usually left with stuff like "get the black cock outta your mouth son". Oh, wait, that already happened. Such adorable and uber-intelligent lil' comments always make my day ;)

Can you really blame a guy for trying to have fun at the expense of ignorant weasels? If you can't pick on the guys who pick on others, who the hell can you pick on?

Oh well, I'll just have to find some other way to entertain myself...
 
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Intact said:


Agreed. Everyone is racist to a certain extent. If you were walking home late at night and you had to choose between going down an alley filled with a bunch of young Black guys dressed in their thug attire, or an alley filled with a bunch of white guys, what alley would you choose?

Thats what I thought.

Are the white kids in thugged out attire as well?
 
Actually that situation (if slightly changed) isn't a racist one.

Two alleys or dark streets. One has some black guys in it, one some white guys. If the white guys look like Eminem and the black guys are dressed like Tiger Woods coming out of a sports bar. I know which ones I'd rather walk by.

That doesn't mean I hate whitey though, just like in the above situation it doesn't mean I hate blacks. It means I'm aware of my surrondings and I dont want to put myself in unnessecary harm or danger.
 
Intact said:


Agreed. Everyone is racist to a certain extent. If you were walking home late at night and you had to choose between going down an alley filled with a bunch of young Black guys dressed in their thug attire, or an alley filled with a bunch of white guys, what alley would you choose?

Thats what I thought.

Deeping on what the white guys looked like I'd might choose the thug attired brothas. If they were looking like neo nazi or not so nice red necks I'm taking the other alley. I guess were are supposed to assume the white alley are all attired from Abercrombie & Fitch or the Gap?
 
Say you are FBI. You get a tip off that there are TWO terrorist on board a airplane. As you enter the plane you notice all 200 of the passengers are white besides two Islamic men sitting besides each other. Wouldn’t it be in your best interest to be suspicious of these men, and maybe confront and interrogate them first before the other 198 white people? If you say no you are a fool. And if you say yes, you are racial profiling (stereotyping)

If you were a cop, and you get a call about robbery at a gas station, and they had 15 people arrested that were suspects. Along with cash, other items were a few packs of Newport cigarettes, and a 40oz of malt liquored. The people that were involved were 10 white guys, 3 Chinese men, and two black men(everyone dressed the same in street close) wouldn’t it be wise judging upon the items stolen, to interrogate the two black men first, instead of the other 13 men. Any good investigator will tell you this is true, if you don’t, you are a fool, but If you do, you are a racist fucking pig and should be shot for stereotyping. THIS WAS MY POINT I know you all know this is true. if you say different, you must be running for governor or something
 
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big_bad_buff said:

If you were a cop, and you get a call about robbery at a gas station, and they had 15 people arrested that were suspects. Along with cash, other items were a few packs of Newport cigarettes, and a 40oz of malt liquored. The people that were involved were 10 white guys, 3 Chinese men, and two black men(everyone dressed the same in street close) wouldn’t it be wise judging upon the items stolen, to interrogate the two black men first, instead of the other 18 men. Any good investigator will tell you this is true, if you don’t, you are a fool, but If you do, you are a racist fucking pig and should be shot for stereotyping. THIS WAS MY POINT I know you all know this is true. if you say different, you must be running for governor or something

If you were a law-abiding black man who happened to be at a gas station together with 14-17 other people (the numbers don't quite add up, but just stay with me for a sec, ok?) when someone stole cash, a few packs of Newport cigarettes, and a 40oz of malt liquored (never mind my English). The other 14-17 guys were white (roughly 10), Chinese (like, uh, 3) and another black man. How would you feel if the cops decided to interrogate you and the other black man first only because you were black?
 
oh, and by the way, everyone was dressed the same in street close. not quite sure what close is but it probably matters somehow.
 
Well, it all depends. Will I be an educated intelligent black man, that knows the facts and statistics that are against me? If so, I would understand the reasoning behind this and corporate in a civilized manner, helping them by stating where I was, what happened etc, basically everything I knew. And of course I would be very angry that I was being stereotyped, but not at the cops, at my race for giving themselves this reputation. I believe this would be very hard, and suck, but I wouldn’t start running my mouth about racist cops and stereotyping, that will just cause problems. The fact is, if they didn’t have this reputation, they wouldn’t be stereo typed, just like people stereotype Islamic people for being terrorists. Sure there have been white terrorists (timothy McVeigh for 1) but as you can see, the number of Islamic terrorists greatly surpass the amount of any other race. Is this not true? do you not agree with me?


hellorhih2o said:


If you were a law-abiding black man who happened to be at a gas station together with 14-17 other people (the numbers don't quite add up, but just stay with me for a sec, ok?) when someone stole cash, a few packs of Newport cigarettes, and a 40oz of malt liquored (never mind my English). The other 14-17 guys were white (roughly 10), Chinese (like, uh, 3) and another black man. How would you feel if the cops decided to interrogate you and the other black man first only because you were black?
 
Oh wow, you really got me now, I never knew how to spell clothes. This puts a major dent in the truth of my statement.

Now come the little attacks against me because you know I’m right, and my statement is 100% true. Just admit it, It’s ok. No need to turn this into a spelling bee competition.


hellorhih2o said:
oh, and by the way, everyone was dressed the same in street close. not quite sure what close is but it probably matters somehow.
 
big_bad_buff said:
Well, it all depends. Will I be an educated intelligent black man, that knows the facts and statistics that are against me? If so, I would understand the reasoning behind this and corporate in a civilized manner, helping them by stating where I was, what happened etc, basically everything I knew. And of course I would be very angry that I was being stereotyped, but not at the cops, at my race for giving themselves this reputation. I believe this would be very hard, and suck, but I wouldn’t start running my mouth about racist cops and stereotyping, that will just cause problems. The fact is, if they didn’t have this reputation, they wouldn’t be stereo typed, just like people stereotype Islamic people for being terrorists. Sure there have been white terrorists (timothy McVeigh for 1) but as you can see, the number of Islamic terrorists greatly surpass the amount of any other race. Is this not true? do you not agree with me?



1) If you were an educated black man you would know that America was built on the notion that every man (and woman) has the same rights regardless of race (and a bunch of other things) and you would know that cops who use race (white, black, whatever) as a way to "profile" suspects are violating the constitution and the very founding principles of this country.

2) If you were an educated black man, you would know that you have the right to be treated as an individual, not as a statistic.

3) If you were an educated black man, I'm sure you would cooperate in a civilized manner even though your civil rights as a citizen are being violated.

4) Is you were an educated black man you would know that Islam is a religion, not a race.

5) If you were an educated black man this country could count one more educated individual.
 
big_bad_buff said:
Oh wow, you really got me now, I never knew how to spell clothes. This puts a major dent in the truth of my statement.

Now come the little attacks against me because you know I’m right, and my statement is 100% true. Just admit it, It’s ok. No need to turn this into a spelling bee competition.



Nah, I wasn't really trying to "get ya", i was just having fun at your expense.

No, I do not know that you are right. I'm 100% convinced that you believe your statements to be 100% true, but that doesn't make them true.

Spelling bee competition is over (I suck at it too) but, no, using race to decide who is more likely to be guilty of a crime is not right.

I haven’t seen statistics on this but I would guess that more men are imprisoned, incarcerated or on parole than women. But that doesn’t make it right to assume that a man is automatically guilty of a crime (going back to the gas station example).

I have seen statistics on the correlation between education and crime and even though I don’t remember a single digit, I know that more uneducated people are imprisoned, incarcerated or on parole than educated people. That does not make it right to assume that a high-school grad is any more guilty than a Ph.D.

I’m sure profiling is reality every day all over this country, but that does not make it ok. Again, the fact that everyone lies and cheats is not excuse to lie and cheat.

There is a not so insignificant document called the The Declaration of Independence. This country is built on the ideas and notions in that document. That document makes me proud of this country. It tells me that there are principles that should not be violated no matter how "practical" it might be to ignore them.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
 
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big_bad_buff said:
:FRlol: this means nothing this day and age.

We should just let women wear vials for the picture on their drivers licenses as well :confused:


Wow, the constitution means nothing this day and age?

THE CONSTITUTION MEANS NOTHING THIS DAY AND AGE???

(And where in the constitution does it say that women should wear vials on their driver's license? There were driver's licenses when the constitution was written? For what? Horses? And did the driver's licenses have holograms back then too?)
 
IMO racism and racial profiling are two vastly different things. Statistics don't lie
 
ZKaudio said:
IMO racism and racial profiling are two vastly different things. Statistics don't lie

And... we're back to square one. :rolleyes:

Statistics don't lie? If you took "statistics 101", you'd remember how incredibly easy it is to lie with statistics. It's one of the very first things you learn. Remember?

(people, stand by for the "get the black cock outta your mouth son" comments, we're getting very close)
 
British Athlete said:


"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

- W.C.

No one really knows if it was Mark Twain or Benjamin Disraeli who first said that but THANK GOD someone remembers something from school...! Or even went to school. Ever.

British Athlete, I'm not worthy...
 
hellorhih2o said:


No one really knows if it was Mark Twain or Benjamin Disraeli who first said that but THANK GOD someone remembers something from school...! Or even went to school. Ever.

British Athlete, I'm not worthy...

It's cool. I read it on the back of a cereal box.

Pretty cool huh :D
 
i'm saying that statistics are responsible for racial profiling... it's really not debatable which races have a higher crime rates. I personally acknowledge the fact that there are extraneous variables affecting all of these statistics and as a result do not form any bias or racist views based on them. I was simply offering a clarifying viewpoint
 
ZKaudio said:
i'm saying that statistics are responsible for racial profiling... it's really not debatable which races have a higher crime rates. I personally acknowledge the fact that there are extraneous variables affecting all of these statistics and as a result do not form any bias or racist views based on them. I was simply offering a clarifying viewpoint

I don't disagree. But if statistics, not principles and laws (such as "that constitution thing that doesn't really mean anything this day and age") run this country, we're all screwed.

It's statistically easy to prove that uneducated people will bring up kids who are more likely to be criminals than educated people. Maybe we should use that statistic to prevent uneducated people from having kids? The world would be a safer place, right?

There's statistics for everything and you can slice any pie in a million ways, and I guarantee that all of us can be statistically proven to be likely criminals one way or another.
 
hellorhih2o said:

using race to decide who is more likely to be guilty of a crime is not right.


See, we aren’t on the same page here. You have the wrong argument. Not once did I say this was “right” to stereotype people. I actually believe this is quit wrong, and you shouldn’t have to do this, but in same cases it is quite necessary.

If you’re in a park, and you notice a pit bull 10 feet away looking at you, you would be a little more freaked out than if it was a golden retriever correct? Why is this? There are plenty of very nice family oriented pit bulls out there that wouldn’t harm a fly. Why would you be more scared? Are you saying you would stereotype the pit bull just because it is known to be more aggressive and there are more pit bull attacks than golden retrievers?

No I’m not saying black people are like Pit Bulls and white people are like golden retrievers, I’m saying if it happens, it’s going to be ingrained in peoples heads, and they will be more cautious around them. Again, no it may not be right, but it’s sometimes necessary to stereotype.

Are used car sales men know too rip people off? Isn’t that a stereotype? Is the bad ass athletes that make all the records accused of roid usage more often than the bench warmer? The fact is, it’s not right, but there are stereotypes for everything and everyone. and sometime it's necessary
 
I guess Ill chime in.

Although its true socio-economic status has been positively correlated with criminal behaviour regardless of subject race or ethnic heritage, members seem to be downplaying the significant influence popular rap/ghetto culture - glorifying maladaptive attitudes and ideals - exerts on impressionable black youth.

By promulgating the continued stereotype of a black community assigning prestige only to entertainment related occupations, black 'artists' forfeit an opportunity to encourage scholastic and professional achievement in black youth, which could contribute to the redefinition of Afro-American culture and Afro-American socio-economic status.

No doubt race plays a large role as well. However, Afro-Americans economic and social salvation will likely only be hastened by a internal revaluation of their own collective culture and the (hopefully) ensuing realignment of culture-specific social values towards more prevelant norms exhibited by relatively functional societies - strong work ethic, marital fidelity, personal accountability, scholastic achievement, ect.

Alot of afroamericans need to get their house in order. But so do whites who are doing the same.
 
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Originally posted by big_bad_buff

See, we aren’t on the same page here.


Ya think?

Originally posted by big_bad_buff

You have the wrong argument. Not once did I say this was “right” to stereotype people. I actually believe this is quit wrong, and you shouldn’t have to do this, but in same cases it is quite necessary.


Already covered. Go back and read my post. But again, "necessity or practically" are not valid excuses.

Originally posted by big_bad_buff

If you’re in a park, and you notice a pit bull 10 feet away looking at you, you would be a little more freaked out than if it was a golden retriever correct? Why is this? There are plenty of very nice family oriented pit bulls out there that wouldn’t harm a fly. Why would you be more scared? Are you saying you would stereotype the pit bull just because it is known to be more aggressive and there are more pit bull attacks than golden retrievers?

No I’m not saying black people are like Pit Bulls and white people are like golden retrievers,


You're not saying that black people are like pit bulls and white people are like goldens? You sure as hell picked an really odd analogy if that's not what you're saying. Hello? HELLO?? Do you really think people will fall for that one? That's exactly what you're saying. Go back and read your own post.

Originally posted by big_bad_buff

Again, no it may not be right, but it’s sometimes necessary to stereotype.


So if something is necessary but not ok, it's still ok? As long as it's necessary for a cop to <insert dubious behavior that's "not right" here>, it's ok? Great, we've got a free-for-all now. "It's necessary".

Originally posted by big_bad_buff

Are used car sales men know too rip people off? Isn’t that a stereotype? Is the bad ass athletes that make all the records accused of roid usage more often than the bench warmer? The fact is, it’s not right, but there are stereotypes for everything and everyone. and sometime it's necessary


Again, sure there are stereotypes, no one has disputed that. It's your "it's necessary" argument that doesn’t' work.

Pit bulls and goldens... Analogy have nothing to do with the fact that we're talking about blacks and whites?

Pure coincidence?

Dude, I feel really, really sorry for you now. If this is how you see the world, your world is very, very small.
 
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buddy28 said:
I guess Ill chime in.

Although its true socio-economic status has been positively correlated with criminal behaviour regardless of subject race or ethnic heritage, members seem to be downplaying the significant influence popular rap/ghetto culture - glorifying maladaptive attitudes and ideals - exerts on impressionable black youth.

By promulgating the continued stereotype of a black community assigning prestige only to entertainment related occupations, black 'artists' forfeit an opportunity to encourage scholastic and professional achievement in black youth, which could contribute to the redefinition of Afro-American culture and Afro-American socio-economic status.

No doubt race plays a large role as well. However, Afro-Americans economic and social salvation will likely only be hastened by a internal revaluation of their own collective culture and the (hopefully) ensuing realignment of culture-specific social values towards more prevelant norms exhibited by relatively functional societies - strong work ethic, marital fidelity, personal accountability, scholastic achievement, ect.

Alot of afroamericans need to get their house in order. But so do whites who are doing the same.

say what? did you type that up in French and run it through an online translator? weeeeell... turns out that they don't work so well...

What's an Afro-American? In any way related to an African American?
 
Tiervexx said:
I steriotype people but not by the way they look.

I pay attention to they way the carry themselves and they way they talk.

This always works once you get good at it.

There you are you lil' devil. I was wondering where the hell you were hiding. Got a major bone to pick with ya...
 
I steriotype people but not by the way they look.

I pay attention to they way the carry themselves and they way they talk.

This always works once you get good at it.
 
hellorhih2o said:


There you are you lil' devil. I was wondering where the hell you were hiding. Got a major bone to pick with ya...

and that would be? PM me about it if you find it necessary.
 
To clarify. When I say the way they talk I don’t mean how good their grammar is, or their accent. I listen for the types of phrases they like to use. It is hard to describe but it makes since once you get a hang of it.
 
Tiervexx said:


and that would be? PM me about it if you find it necessary.

oh no... we're going to do this in public.

quote from the original "stereotype" thread:

"I have met a lot of black guys that are great when they are by themselves but it seems that once they get together in a group they lose all their individuality and feel the need to fulfill all the stereotypes even though I know they have more depth than that. WTF?"

Let's replace just one tiny little word... read carefully:

"I have met a lot of gay guys that are great when they are by themselves but it seems that once they get together in a group they lose all their individuality and feel the need to fulfill all the stereotypes even though I know they have more depth than that. WTF?"

want to ponder over that one a bit maybe? remember when people were backing you up in another thread with your name on it lately?
 
hellorhih2o said:


oh no... we're going to do this in public.

quote from the original "stereotype" thread:

"I have met a lot of black guys that are great when they are by themselves but it seems that once they get together in a group they lose all their individuality and feel the need to fulfill all the stereotypes even though I know they have more depth than that. WTF?"

Let's replace just one tiny little word... read carefully:

"I have met a lot of gay guys that are great when they are by themselves but it seems that once they get together in a group they lose all their individuality and feel the need to fulfill all the stereotypes even though I know they have more depth than that. WTF?"

want to ponder over that one a bit maybe? remember when people were backing you up in another thread with your name on it lately?

LOL you took what I said out of context. The second paragraph of my post said that a lot of white guys did the same thing. I made this post to point out that everyone can fulfill the stereotypes.

Then I mentioned that I could not empathize with that urge because I am a misanthrope. If I would have said that I was not affected by this because I am white then I could understand where you are coming from. Read the entire post before you comment on it next time.
 
Many white guys are guilty of this too though. I guess as a misanthrope I will never be able to understand why.

This is the line that you must have ignored.

And incase you don't know misanthrope is someone that hates people in general, not a racist.
 
Tiervexx said:


This is the line that you must have ignored.

And incase you don't know misanthrope is someone that hates people in general, not a racist.

I'm a friggin' foreigner, English is my second language and I'm severely dyslexic, but yeah, I know what a misanthrope is.

OK, I've gone back and re-read your entire posts. Alright, I might have spoken a bit too soon. But I saw your name in that thread and I thought "oh no he doesn't. not that one, i'll kill him with my bare hands".

Alright, you're safe. For now. But you only get so many "get out of jail for free" cards...
 
hellorhih2o said:

Alright, you're safe. For now. But you only get so many "get out of jail for free" cards...

Excuse me? This is the second time you have thrown a wild, unsupported accusation at me (first one was me being a Christian).

Now if you ever accuse me of being a breeder I will hunt you down and show you how mean a gay guy can get once he has been isolated his entire life!!!
:kaioken:
 
Tiervexx said:


Excuse me? This is the second time you have thrown a wild, unsupported accusation at me (first one was me being a Christian).

Now if you ever accuse me of being a breeder I will hunt you down and show you how mean a gay guy can get once he has been isolated his entire life!!!
:kaioken:

Note to self: take Tiervexx off shitlist. But keep an eye on him.
 
Tiervexx said:
You should know hellorhih2o that I could never be racist because I hate all creation far too much to ever be able to elevate one group above another.

No you don't. You've already said that you like dogs.

Gotcha.
 
You should know hellorhih2o that I could never be racist because I hate all creation far too much to ever be able to elevate one group above another.
 
Thank you for clarifying this. Now I know I have wasted my time replying to your ignorance. You have not answered one of my questions, and if you couldn’t understand my analogy of the pit bulls, then you must be kind of slow, or a foreigner that doesn’t speak that much English, OH WAIT!! I must be on to something here. The fact is, I’m wasting my time trying to explain how and why people put stereotypes on others. Hope you don’t take to much offense to this, and I’ll catch ya in another thread.

hellorhih2o said:


I'm a friggin' foreigner, English is my second language and I'm severely dyslexic,
 
big_bad_buff said:
Thank you for clarifying this. Now I know I have wasted my time replying to your ignorance. You have not answered one of my questions, and if you couldn’t understand my analogy of the pit bulls, then you must be kind of slow, or a foreigner that doesn’t speak that much English, OH WAIT!! I must be on to something here. The fact is, I’m wasting my time trying to explain how and why people put stereotypes on others. Hope you don’t take to much offense to this, and I’ll catch ya in another thread.


Now that was just ignorant of you. Everyone misinterprets something every once in a while. You had no part in what me and hellorhih2o where discussing. And he seems to know plenty of English to comprehend any boneheaded argument you could come up with.
 
big_bad_buff said:


1) You have not answered one of my questions

2) If you couldn’t understand my analogy of the pit bulls, then you must be kind of slow, or a foreigner that doesn’t speak that much English, OH WAIT!! I must be on to something here.

3) Hope you don’t take to much offense to this

4) I’ll catch ya in another thread.


1) Yes I did and you know it.

2) how 'bout slow and a foreigner who doesn't speak that much English? By the way, it's "who doesn't speak", not "that doesn't speak". But what do I know. I also suffer from early Alzheimer’s, I'm going through my 16th puberty, menopause for the 15th time and I think I've got a touch of mad cow. But I feel fine otherwise, thanks for asking.

3) Do I seem that delicate a flower to you?

4) Not if I catch you first
 
Tiervexx said:


Now that was just ignorant of you. Everyone misinterprets something every once in a while. You had no part in what me and hellorhih2o where discussing. And he seems to know plenty of English to comprehend any boneheaded argument you could come up with.

Note to self: we like Tiervexx again. He's a good kid. Be good to him.
 
Gentlemen thank you for keeping this debate civil. I'll let it go as long as the demeanor, tone and language remain this way.

My only comment would be that I believe a better term for stereotyping of people would be socio-economic-centrism rather than racism.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Gentlemen thank you for keeping this debate civil. I'll let it go as long as the demeanor, tone and language remain this way.

My only comment would be that I believe a better term for stereotyping of people would be socio-economic-centrism rather than racism.

See, don't get so nervous. Take a chill pill, it's fun to pick on people from the woods.

Socio-economic-centrism my ass. I'll be civil but I refuse to be PC. It's bad enough that some wizkid called black people "Afro-Americans". What's that? A bad hairdo?

Black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black.

There.

(and I still refuse to PhotoShop a hat onto your scary-ass birdie-thingy. heartburn material.)
 
It's an emu. Not even for a mega karma blast?

I'm not being pc, I'm simply using the shortest terms to describe a broad concept. Basically all people decriminate along economic and cultural lines before they even consider racial issues. As long as two people from seperate cultures have equal class & wealth they will get draw lines based on culture rather than race.

Hell they can even be the same color and they will do this grouping process.
 
Bodhisattva said:
It's an emu. Not even for a mega karma blast?

Do you have any idea how long it took for me to get my own avatar in decent shape?

1) Take self-pic with SLR camera and good ol' fashion Eastman Kodak (hate digital, I don't care how many mega-pixels there are, it's still flat).

2) Off to one-hour photo lab.

3) Quick 30 minute nap. Too short.

4) Back to one-hour photo lab.

5) Scan negative. Curse Minolta for making slow film scanners.

6) Work on getting rid of pimples on left arm. Two hours.

7) Realize that I'm as pale as an asprin. Go b/w. Pimple work to hell.

8)

Wait a minute. Are you calling me a karma-ho????



I'm not being pc, I'm simply using the shortest terms to describe a broad concept. Basically all people decriminate along economic and cultural lines before they even consider racial issues. As long as two people from seperate cultures have equal class & wealth they will get draw lines based on culture rather than race.


<heartburn and headache. evil birdie-thingy>



Hell they can even be the same color and they will do this grouping process.

Why does that sound somewhat sexual?
 
hellorhih2o said:


See, don't get so nervous. Take a chill pill, it's fun to pick on people from the woods.

Socio-economic-centrism my ass. I'll be civil but I refuse to be PC. It's bad enough that some wizkid called black people "Afro-Americans". What's that? A bad hairdo?

Black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black.

There.

(and I still refuse to PhotoShop a hat onto your scary-ass birdie-thingy. heartburn material.)

This reminds me of something George Carlin said. Words are just words, it is the dirty racist that uses it that you have to worry about. It is the context that is offencive not the word.
 
Tiervexx said:


This reminds me of something George Carlin said. Words are just words, it is the dirty racist that uses it that you have to worry about. It is the context that is offencive not the word.

Check your PM. I've got ya where I want ya.
 
Tiervexx said:


I have it set so that I get a pop up when I am PMed. And you are right.

I don't know about you be when ever I am watching a horror movie I am almost always amused by humans dieing horribly but when any dogs are killed it ruins the movie. :bawling:

Cause dogs are innocent and pure creatures who will give you unconditional love no matter what. Pit bulls included.

<Getting sentimental before going out. Questionable strategy>
 
hellorhih2o said:


Check your PM. I've got ya where I want ya.

I have it set so that I get a pop up when I am PMed. And you are right.

I don't know about you be when ever I am watching a horror movie I am almost always amused by humans dieing horribly but when any dogs are killed it ruins the movie. :bawling:
 
buddy28 said:



lol!

By keeping the language relatively formal it discourages people from remarking on the obvious cultural problems that plague a large portion of black Americans...

Black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black.
 
hellorhih2o said:


Socio-economic-centrism my ass. I'll be civil but I refuse to be PC. It's bad enough that some wizkid called black people "Afro-Americans". What's that? A bad hairdo?


lol!

By keeping the language relatively formal it discourages people from remarking on the obvious cultural problems that plague a large portion of black Americans...
 
hellorhih2o said:


Black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black.



doesnt bother me one bit. Black away. :)


You're not black, are you?
 
Although wodin has a point. Its more a socioeconomic thing as opposed to a racial thing. At least what i was talking about anyway.

Whites, hispanics, blacks and maybe even jews listening to dr dres 'the chronic' album while they bust some old bitty in the knee caps for the 20 bucks in her purse....
 
buddy28 said:




doesnt bother me one bit. Black away. :)


You're not black, are you?

Read some of the other threads from earlier tonight. I'm from the whitest country on the planet. Black? Me? Not so much.

Funny thing is, my best friend is (ya know, black, black, black, black, etc, etc... ). We're not supposed to be friends at all "on paper" but whattayaknow.

Does that make me PC? Hell no. PC is just on the surface and thus completely irrelevant. IMHO.
 
hellorhih2o said:


PC is just on the surface and thus completely irrelevant. IMHO.


Often times its quite the opposite. Conservative 'straight talk' often appeals to 'common knowledge' obtained through casual observation, which alot of the time, can be just as erroneous as the leftwings disregard for personal accountability.
 
buddy28 said:



Often times its quite the opposite. Conservative 'straight talk' often appeals to 'common knowledge' obtained through casual observation, which alot of the time, can be just as erroneous as the leftwings disregard for personal accountability.

dude, you've gotta stop using that French translator thing. Simple words. I'm not that smart.
 
buddy28 said:



Often times its quite the opposite. Conservative 'straight talk' often appeals to 'common knowledge' obtained through casual observation, which alot of the time, can be just as erroneous as the leftwings disregard for personal accountability.

=

It is often the other way around. Being PC often appeals to 'common' knowledge' gained through watching what is going on, which a lot of the time, can be just as messed up as the leftweings ignoring personal responsibility.

BTW buddy28, when you use big words it is extra important that you use good grammar. Otherwise it looks like you are trying to hard to seem smart.
 
hellorhih2o said:


Read some of the other threads from earlier tonight. I'm from the whitest country on the planet. Black? Me? Not so much.

That could be Germany, Norway, Finland or Sweden.
 
Tiervexx said:


=

It is often the other way around. Being PC often appeals to 'common' knowledge' gained through watching what is going on, which a lot of the time, can be just as messed up as the leftweings ignoring personal responsibility.

BTW buddy28, when you use big words it is extra important that you use good grammar. Otherwise it looks like you are trying to hard to seem smart.

You're as sharp as a tack my friend. Keep doing what you do best..
 
Tiervexx said:


=

It is often the other way around. Being PC often appeals to 'common' knowledge' gained through watching what is going on, which a lot of the time, can be just as messed up as the leftweings ignoring personal responsibility.

BTW buddy28, when you use big words it is extra important that you use good grammar. Otherwise it looks like you are trying to hard to seem smart.

Good lord. That went completely over your head.

You made two major grammatical errors in my statement you revised in a pitiful attempt at demonstrating your 'superior' grasp of English syntax.

Are you really that stupid??

You're working at a grade 3 level and don’t even know it.

Maybe in a few years after you finish your ESL course, you'll be able to articulate an intelligible argument without making yourself sound like a jackass.


Feel free to resume your verbal masturbation of tweedle-dum.
 
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buddy28 said:


Maybe in a few years after you finish your ESL course, you'll be able to articulate an intelligible argument without making yourself sound like a jackass.


But will he ever get to your superior level of sophistication and finesse?

I feel so honored that you joined us common folks and took part in this silly little nonsense thread.

<note to self: use term "Afro-Americans" frequently to show refinement. do not confuse with bad hairdo.>
 
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buddy28 said:


Good lord. That went completely over your head.

You made two major grammatical errors in my statement you revised in a pitiful attempt at demonstrating your 'superior' grasp of English syntax.

Are you really that stupid??

You're working at a grade 3 level and don’t even know it.

Maybe in a few years after you finish your ESL course, you'll be able to articulate an intelligible argument without making yourself sound like a jackass.


Feel free to resume your verbal masturbation of tweedle-dum.

I was not trying to correct it you fool! I was just simplifying the words for the benefit of hellorhih2o because English is his second language. I can't be sure if he was exaggerating or not but I though I would simplify it anyway just in case. I typed that in about 8 seconds assuming that you would be smart enough to see that all I was trying to do was substitute a few words with smaller ones.
 
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Tiervexx said:

BTW buddy28, when you use big words it is extra important that you use good grammar. Otherwise it looks like you are trying to hard to seem smart.

I said that it is important to use good grammar when you are trying to impress people with big words. When you are just talking casually it does not matter as much, because people can tell you are just speaking naturally.

Even if I tried to fix it that does not change the fact that I never clamed to have a superior grasp of the English language! All I said was that your attempt at looking smart failed.
 
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Tiervexx said:


I said that it is important to use good grammar when you are trying to impress people with big words. When you are just talking casually it does not matter as much, because people can tell you are just speaking naturally.

Even if I tried to fix it that does not change the fact that I never clamed to have a superior grasp of the English language! All I said was that your attempt at looking smart failed.

English is the most confusing and random language on the planet IMHO.

"The military is present" but "the police are present"? Say what?

You park on a driveway and drive on a parkway? Huh?

"I am smart" but "I'm smart, aren't I"?

Come to think of it, there's something horribly wrong with the last one no matter how you word it. :D :confused: :D :confused: :D :confused: :D :confused: :D :confused:
 
Tiervexx said:

I never clamed to have a superior grasp of the English language!


That about sums up your argument.

Why don’t you point out the grammatical errors I made? Id be interested.
 
Nothing major.

buddy28 said:



Often times its quite the opposite. Conservative 'straight talk' often appeals to 'common knowledge' obtained through casual observation, which alot(a lot is two words) of the time(there should not be another comma here) can be just as erroneous as the leftwings' disregard for personal accountability.

Normally I would ignore errors that small and insignificant. The reason why I was being a jerk is because I was assuming you know that English is a second language for hellorhih2o. I thought you where using big words just to be a jackass, and you are a jackass.
 
Tiervexx said:
Normally I would ignore errors that small and insignificant. The reason why I was being a jerk is because I was assuming you know that English is a second language for hellorhih2o.


No, I didn’t. And even if i did, why would you or he take it personally? Big words in a statement are not definitive proof the writer is attempting to slight others...


Tiervexx said:
I thought you where using big words just to be a jackass, and you are a jackass.

Looks like its time to streamline your working vocabulary, Tiervexx.

Its 'were' not 'where', you dunce!
 
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