Thoughts on cycle

[steveff]

What's up guys, tossing around a few ideas in my head for my next cycle. Wanted to see what the vets think. Probably starting mid-June.
21yo
5'6"
175lbs
+/- 9-10% bf

1RM
Squat: 435-445lbs
Bench: 335-350lbs
Dead: 485-500lbs

Cut with a SARMs/ Katanadrol V3.0 cycle and was disappointed so I'm considering a few things. Didn't really get the results I wanted from it. Felt like a natural route would have yielded the same, if not similar results.

Option 1:
1-8 RS Transaderm @5pumps/day
1-8 NTBM Liquidex AI @2ml/day
4-8 Epi-Strong @30/30/45/45/45mg
5-8 HcGenerate @5/5/5/6caps
4-10 AI Cycle Support @double dose
4-10 Liv.52 Double Strength @double dose

PCT:
9-12 Clomid @50/50/25/25mg
9-12 Post Cycle/ Unleashed @4/3/3/3caps
9-13 DAA 3g/day
9-13 PES Erase @3/3/3/2/1
(Maybe Ostarine 25/25/12.5/12.5)

Option 2:
1-8 RS Transaderm @5pumps/day
1-8 NTBM Liquidex AI @2ml/day

9-14 Test Enth or Cyp @500mg/wk
9-14 Aromasin @25mg EOD

15-18 Test Enth or Cyp @250mg/wk
15-20 Aromasin @12.5mg EOD

15-20 Epi-Strong @30/30/45/45/45mg/day
OR
14-20 Epi-Strong @30/30/30/30/30/30mg/day

19-20 HcGenerate @double dose

AI Cycle Support/ Liv.52 DS both @double dose while on Epi.

PCT:
21-24 Clomid @50/50/25/25mg
21-24 Aromasin @12.5mg EOD
21-24 Post Cycle/ Unleashed @4/3/3/3caps
21-25 DAA @3/3/3/3/3g

Maybe Nolva 20/20/10/10? Not sure if I need it.
Maybe Ostarine 25/25/25/12.5. Didn't really like it for my last cycle, so I don't know if I'll be using it again.


Either of these cycles will be used for a cut. Diet and training are 100%. Check out my last cycle log if you want to see my diet and training.

The only thing with option 2 is that is is very long and quite extensive considering I'm 21. I know I can handle it in terms of keeping everything organized and staying on track, I just don't know if it's worth running like that.
Could do option 1 then do the basic "first cycle test cycle".

But that's why I'm posting here.... Just want to see what you guys think.
Pretty sure I have all the bases covered here. Criticism welcome.

Not really open to "switching from Epistane to Oxandrovar" or other GK stuff. I have everything except the Test right now. But I'm open for opinions.

 

[steveff]

Any input?


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[25homes]

I'd go with option 2 but would keep Test at 500mg week the whole time till the end don't taper down

 

[25homes]

Also don't think you need 25mg aromasin could run 12.5mg eod whole time

 

[steveff]

I think I'm going to go with option 1 just because of the timing and length of the cycle. Its more convenient right now.



The only change will be RS Transaderm will be double dosed. So, 10 pumps per day.



Is the ntbm liquidex enough for a double dose of RS? Or should I opt for a low dose of aromasin instead? I was thinking the recommended 2mL/day should be fine, but I'm not positive. I've never used it before.


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[ForeverSmall]

You have incredible lifts, especially taking your size into consideration.

I personally love Epistane. I think it is one of the best orals out there, taking both PH and AAS into consideration. Really hard to find something that can compare to it, especially for the price.

As far as your cycle; I would run it for a total of 6 weeks. Start at 40mg a day and bump the dosage up every couple weeks. They say not to go over 60mg a day, but I think you can stretch it to 75mg. I get pretty bad lower back pumps from it, so taurine and potassium would be good to add for support.

As far as your question about an AI. Epistane has really great anti-e properties. So in my opinion, you will not need an AI on cycle.

 

[steveff]

Thanks for the ego boost bro! Haha



So I've decided to go with low dose aromasin because I just got some slight puffiness and needed to order some anyway. So I stocked up.



Probably going to do 10mg EOD for this cycle. its dosed at 10mg/mL so its just easier that way. Unless the effects at 12.5 are THAT much different. Will bump to 10mg ED if needed. I feel like it might be.


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